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2023 NFL Draft

shiznit

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Anyone else think that was pretty light for the #1 pick?

a couple of weeks ago I had Bears fans telling me they were adamant they were getting Tae Adams, Darren Waller and three 1st’s for it from the Raiders… 😂🤣
 

shiznit

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Massive news on the draft front



Panthers are on the clock, who do they want?
From a Raiders perspective frustratingly it looks like McDaniels and Ziegler are not keen on a vet like Rodgers or Lamar and are gonna draft a QB.

I think any of the top 4 QB’s they will be happy with… so unless it looks like those 4 will go before #7 they could well just stay at #7 and take whoever is left.

I do get the feeling though that they are starting to fall in love with Richardson’s physical gifts… which give him a super high ceiling… but I think to really develop him right you need a bridge… which I’m not sure Stidham is…
 
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Chicago looking good for the future. Carolina got fleeced IMO.

As for Raiders, I don't watch Richardson. He's moved up due to combine results but I've looked at the players that did similarly to him at the combine and they are all nobodies with the exception of Tyrod Taylor, who I wouldn't want to spend pick 7 on.
 

shiznit

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Chicago looking good for the future. Carolina got fleeced IMO.

As for Raiders, I don't watch Richardson. He's moved up due to combine results but I've looked at the players that did similarly to him at the combine and they are all nobodies with the exception of Tyrod Taylor, who I wouldn't want to spend pick 7 on.
I don’t think there’s ever been anyone like Richardson… that’s the point.

people say RG3 or Lamar…

RG3 was 6’2 - 220lbs, Ran the 40 in 4.41 with a vert of 39”
Lamar was 6’1 - 216lbs and didn’t do the athletic drills.

This f**king kid is 6’4 - 244lbs and runs the 40 in 4.43 with a very of 40.5”.

thats f**king INSANE for a QB.

This kid has Josh Allen’s size and howitzer arm with Lamar’s athletic ability.

He’s just really raw as a passer apparently. He needs to be brought in slowly to let him develop.

Honestly with his upside it wouldn’t surprise me if he goes #1 overall.

the scary thing for me as a Raiders fan is he could be Pat Mahomes… but he will probably end up JAmarcus Russell with us…
 

shiznit

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If I was to pick one of the QB’s I’d probably go with Stroud… from what the experts have been saying he’s a polished passer and has upside with his legs… which he didn’t really take advantage of much in college.

Will Levis intrigues me… he kinda seems almost like a Justin Herbert, Josh Allen type of prospect where he has all the physical prototypical measurables but he’s not as polished as say Stroud and Young but if you get him into a situation where you have the flexibility to develop him at his own pace you could have something special.

Same with Richardson I guess but I think there’s probably a higher upside with Richardson but probably more of an unknown with him too.

Has anyone had a deeper dive into this class? I’ve only seen what Kiper, McShay and the dudes from the Athletic have done…

apparently it’s a pretty shallow class overall…
 

nick87

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Chicago looking good for the future. Carolina got fleeced IMO.

As for Raiders, I don't watch Richardson. He's moved up due to combine results but I've looked at the players that did similarly to him at the combine and they are all nobodies with the exception of Tyrod Taylor, who I wouldn't want to spend pick 7 on.
couldnt disagree more

I think the panthers paid a signifcant but fair price and i dont think they got fleeced at all based on recent trading history

also richardson is exactly what the raiders should do. A little bit of JaMarcus Russell potential about it but man he's so god damn talented haha.

Jimmy G to Richardson after 12 months.... lovely
 

shiznit

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Oh well, good thing we traded Darren Waller to get him. Oh nevermind, was for a 3rd rounder. #raiders
We should have got rid of Waller last offseason… I get why we re-upped him at the time as we wanted to see what that offense would look like with Tae, him, Renfrow & Jacobs with Carr….

Dude is a beast when he’s on the field but you’re a Raiders fan for real so you know his issue is availability.

the fact is he’s on the wrong side of 30 now so it’s only gonna get worse for him.

the reality is Foster Moreau has been our TE fir most of the past 2 seasons because Waller just hasn’t been available.

Team’s weren’t clamouring for him because of these issues so a 3rd is definitely something. Good deal for the Giants though.

Keep an eye on Renfrow too… I could see him get traded as they picked up Jacobi Meyers today.
 
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Dorsett too. I didn't want to believe, but we truly are becoming New England West. A real shame. We might as well see what we can get for Jacobs and Adams at this point.

I get Waller isn't our best option but surely we could do better than pretty much a 4th round pick considering we could have traded him away for a second last season.

The defensive players we have signed have not been good at all.
 

shiznit

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Dorsett too. I didn't want to believe, but we truly are becoming New England West. A real shame. We might as well see what we can get for Jacobs and Adams at this point.

I get Waller isn't our best option but surely we could do better than pretty much a 4th round pick considering we could have traded him away for a second last season.

The defensive players we have signed have not been good at all.
I don’t mind them going down the Patriots West pathway…

Give McDaniels what he wants and if he f**ks up then start again…

we weren’t winning the division with Carr and Waller so f**k em… lol
 

kurt faulk

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What do the Jets end up giving up for Rodgers?

A ham sammich. His contract is overbearing, nobody else wants him including the packers. They should have traded him last season when the Broncos would have paid the moon for him.

I have no idea why they kept him.

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macavity

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A ham sammich. His contract is overbearing, nobody else wants him including the packers. They should have traded him last season when the Broncos would have paid the moon for him.

I have no idea why they kept him.

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agreed was pissed we didn’t.

reckon the jets give up a second and player or some conditionals.
 
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