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2023 TV/Fox/Streaming Ratings

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BlueandGold

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hmmm
lets review shall we

43 million in profits in 2021
58 million in profits in 2022

Record grants to all 16 clubs
salary cap at an all time high , all clubs financial & stable

154 Million sets of eyeballs on our game in 2022 , more then any sport in Australia
more then 23 Million already in the first 4 weeks of the 2023 season ... an all time high

PVL
our lord & saviour

He has to nail that next broadcasting deal if he wants to be lord and savior.

550m a year starting from 2028 is the pass mark for PVL and his team.
 

Iamback

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If you are going to argue market value is what happened then you have to conclude that the market value for the fumblers will increase by around 30-40% in the next 24 months whereas ours has increased by what 5% (if that)

That seems like a strange market deviation without any real change in the parameters of each competition. Fumble games haven’t increased in duration. They haven’t increased the amount of teams. They have a full women’s competition but you can’t seriously argue that it is worth over a $100 million are you? So why are you getting so much increase in the deviation between these two deals other than simply to conclude that one negotiated better than the other.

Also, I and others who have argued that it was a dud deal in comparison are not arguing that we should get the same or arguing in straight lines. The fumblers should, considering the length of the game get a little more (the increase bring more from FTA) however the last negotiations have definitely broken a trend.

You do realise the AFL deal ends in 8 years time? How much will Kayo cost in 2031? what about what a commercial will cost? that is all factored into deals like this

with the 3% inflation a year. if the total in 2031 for AFL is $645 million then you can 30% off that or so. It makes the market value of the the 2031 deal $450m

Which is a slight increase of the current deal

We also don't know what the Telstra section of that either but the deal was done to cover 9 years time and hence looks higher when compared to 2023 money

So yes both are market value. i'd expect come 2031 NRL is not far off the TV part of AFL, That is with a 9th game of course
 

taipan

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It pie in the sky. The NRL has a $2bill 5 year deal cash and contra starting this year
$402 mill a year avg
$130mill ch9 (inc radio rights) (fact)
$32mill SkyNZ (fact)
$240mill Fox (guess based on overall announced amount and vlandys copping a hammering over a sht deal and him justifying it by 'saving them')
Approx $30mill contra. ($24mill last deal plus $5mil more contra from Ch9 though may be more depending on how much of the $12mill skynz uplift is contra)

I'll be proved right when this years annual report comes out next March and you can see the level of cash increase in the licensing line.

It wont likely start to go to negotiations for 2028+ until 2026 going by historic trends of deal negotiation periods. By then we need to have a plan for 20 clubs, ten games a weekend to sell and 2 to 3 bidders going hard for them. Then we will see a major uplift like AFL has seen.
Worse case scenario is NRL rush in team 18 for 2025 so they can renegotiate with Fox who then demand an extension beyond 2028.

3 new clubs and an extra 2 games to run will cost around $65million for NRL. Then the other 17 clubs will be clamoring for more. The next TV deal needs to go up by at least $100mill cash to make it work.

If and when an 18th team is added there will be a revisit on TV rights and costs, Abdo stated such.Whereas ATM the AFL has currently an 18 team competition and that in itself is advantageous.
It does not have a NZ team ,so from an Australian marketing/sales/TV perspective the value for an overseas team is naturally less than for a Oz team.That stands to reason, also when drawing comparisons.
AFL's deal goes from 2025 to 2031 inclusive(7 years) .NRL current deal finishes end 2027 ,4 years earlier than the AFL one.Again not comparing apples with apples.But an opportunity to up the TV deal ante next contract .
Did 10 and Paramount bid on the NRL ? Did ch7 cherry pick wanting only SOO ? 9 was prepared to have AFL games.
There is a 4 year start (2028 )on the AFL, when the NRL next deal kicks in. That opens the door for 10 and Paramount giving competitive tension ,which no doubt the AFL had for their new deal ,and where the NRL in 2020/2021 did not.
IOW we can bang our collective heads together on what we shoulda got ,but drawing comparisons with the AFL is not apples with apples.No 18 teams, no foreign team, representation in 3 states and ACT, and whether we like to admit it or not ,AFL have a lot more high profile sponsors ATM.And finally the contract time factor.
That's my rant .
 

Iamback

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Dolphins pre season post season and women’s should be good for another 50 million

600 million tv deal excluding digital is a decent result
If and when an 18th team is added there will be a revisit on TV rights and costs, Abdo stated such.Whereas ATM the AFL has currently an 18 team competition and that in itself is advantageous.
It does not have a NZ team ,so from an Australian marketing/sales/TV perspective the value for an overseas team is naturally less than for a Oz team.That stands to reason, also when drawing comparisons.
AFL's deal goes from 2025 to 2031 inclusive(7 years) .NRL current deal finishes end 2027 ,4 years earlier than the AFL one.Again not comparing apples with apples.But an opportunity to up the TV deal ante next contract .
Did 10 and Paramount bid on the NRL ? Did ch7 cherry pick wanting only SOO ? 9 was prepared to have AFL games.
There is a 4 year start (2028 )on the AFL, when the NRL next deal kicks in. That opens the door for 10

Nailed it. Good post
 

Iamback

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Dolphins pre season post season and women’s should be good for another 50 million

600 million tv deal excluding digital is a decent result

go to 20 teams and a billion dollars is on the cards down the track

Yep content is king, It really should clear how RL gets more money
 

Nerd

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News ltd aren’t happy with our rivals

He forgot to mention the Lions who for about 10 years in a row only kept their heads above water thanks to generous year on year bail outs from the AFL.

When the AFL decided to play the Lions game at the same time and in direct competition to the Broncos/Dolphins game all they managed to achieve was to highlight just how insignificant AFL is in Queensland. If it wasn't for the power blackout at the Gabba during the game most people in Brisbane wouldn't even have realised that they had played.
 
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