2nd Test: Australia v England at Adelaide Dec 5-9, 2013

[JW]

Skipper Pup breaking f**king records.

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

Absolutely outstanding knock. How good is Clarke. Remember how the English thought they worked him out

Bowl short
??????????
Profit

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Saved us from an embarrassing capitulation a real captains innings

 

[Fufu Andronez]

Carberry f*cked this for England

 

[lockyno1]

Wow...

Just saw that Clarke averages over 65 at home and only 42 away!

Is that a sign of how good Aussie wickets are/or just not transferring his form overseas?

Bit of both! Has had a few poor away series early in his career which sort of distorts that stat. Adelaide is a flat track though and he has 1/4 of his tons there.

 

[Pete Cash]

Did Warne just call Clarke the best player of spin in the world?

Not even close.

2nd best batsman in the world IMO, easily (behind Amla) but definitely not the best player of spin. There's a shitload of Indians, as well as Amla, who can lay claim to that title. Even Cook after his brilliant series in India.

Nah Clarke's the best. Please deport tommy smith for crimes against knowing stuff about cricket.

 

[lockyno1]

Hey just raising a fair debate.

Does a batsman need to dominate in foreign conditions to be considered a true great? Or just feast on home wickets?

Is that stat recent though? Would like to know the stats for the last 5 years for instance.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Hey just raising a fair debate.

Does a batsman need to dominate in foreign conditions to be considered a true great? Or just feast on home wickets?

As a comparison, Hashim Amla averages 47 at home (in the worlds best conditions for seamers) and an amazing 58 away.

That makes him superior to Clarke IMO.

And the man I consider Australia's second greatest batsman of all-time, Greg Chappell, averaged 54 at home and 53 away.

 

[Twizzle]

Did Warne just call Clarke the best player of spin in the world?

Not even close.

2nd best batsman in the world IMO, easily (behind Amla) but definitely not the best player of spin. There's a shitload of Indians, as well as Amla, who can lay claim to that title. Even Cook after his brilliant series in India.

Clarkie's footwork is probably the best but Amla, please

footwork is non existent and he is more of an ODI player than a 5 day player for mine

 

[Tommy Smith]

Nah Clarke's the best. Please deport tommy smith for crimes against knowing stuff about cricket.

A fine argument indeed.

Clarke averages 40 in India.

Hashim Amla averages 102 in India.

 

[lockyno1]

And the man I consider Australia's second greatest batsman of all-time, Greg Chappell, averaged 54 at home and 53 away.

Did Bradman not play?

 

[Tommy Smith]

Clarkie's footwork is probably the best but Amla, please

footwork is non existent and he is more of an ODI player than a 5 day player for mine

:shock:

A test average of 52.33 with 27 50s and 20 hundreds from just 71 tests.

He averages 58 away from home and 102 in India.

How on earth can anyone consider him more of an ODI player? That's obscene.

 

[Sphagnum]

Typical pommy wanker. Go home and take your Amla man love with you.

 

[lockyno1]

A fine argument indeed.

Clarke averages 40 in India.

Hashim Amla averages 102 in India.

Amal grew up around that region, should be good on those pitches.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Did Bradman not play?

Bradman would be the best, locky.

Keep up, son.

 

[Twizzle]

:shock:

A test average of 52.33 with 27 50s and 20 hundreds from just 71 tests.

He averages 58 away from home and 102 in India.

How on earth can anyone consider him more of an ODI player? That's obscene.

have a look at the batting rankings ODIs and Tests

 

[Someone]

As a comparison, Hashim Amla averages 47 at home (in the worlds best conditions for seamers) and an amazing 58 away.

That makes him superior to Clarke IMO.

And the man I consider Australia's second greatest batsman of all-time, Greg Chappell, averaged 54 at home and 53 away.

fair enough point.

 

[Tommy Smith]

have a look at the batting rankings ODIs and Tests

And?

You were saying that he's more of an ODI player than a Test player when his test batting record is one of the greatest of all-time. You also question his ability vs spin when he has dominated spin.

I'll take those FACTS over subjective batting rankings lol

 

[The Charlatan]

Amal grew up around that region, should be good on those pitches.

No he didn't... He's born and bred Saffa.

 

[Pete Cash]

A fine argument indeed.

Clarke averages 40 in India.

Hashim Amla averages 102 in India.

We let you into the country with open arms and even allow you to support the Sydney roosters and this is how you repay our hospitality. You should be ashamed tommy..