400,000 less people...

[East Coast Tiger]

...will see international rugby league and the kangaroos in Australia from the start of the next TV deal.

That's based on mid-year test v end of year test TV ratings from 2014 when we had such games.

Apparently this is a good thing according to the davey smith fanbois club.

 

[docbrown]

According to new reports the ARLC are going to put a cap on the number of people allowed to watch the October Trans-Tasman test match on television.

David Smith was quoted as saying "Look, we know people want to watch the Trans-Tasman test. But because the match is in October now we want to stop 400,000 existing viewers from watching because of... some reason."

"Sure, these viewers might try crafty tricks like turning the television on or switching it to the correct station. But we will go to each of their houses and plead with them not to do these things."

"If that fails, we will put a black piece of cardboard over their televisions. If they try to remove the cardboard we will use gaffer tape to secure it."

"Ultimately, as the disgruntled fans on internet forums have pointed out, it is in the best interests of the sport to do this for... some reason."

Source: www.paranoidrugbyleaguefans.com/400000lessviewersconspiracytheory.wtf

 

[Evil Homer]

Yeah, let's make jokes when people rightly complain about the ARL f**king up and holding the sport back. Good one.

 

[hutch]

I can see both sides of the argument but I personally looked forward to the international weekend and thought we were starting to get on the right track with it. NZ are losers out of this and it is much harder to keep the australian rugby league public interested after grand final day, let alone the general public. A test in the middle of the year rated well and could've been bigger than what it was.

 

[docbrown]

Yeah, let's make jokes when people rightly complain about the ARL f**king up and holding the sport back. Good one.

If you want to talk about it logically and rationally, I'm all for it. But I'm over all the debbie downers on here.

 

[docbrown]

I can see both sides of the argument but I personally looked forward to the international weekend and thought we were starting to get on the right track with it. NZ are losers out of this and it is much harder to keep the australian rugby league public interested after grand final day, let alone the general public. A test in the middle of the year rated well and could've been bigger than what it was.

It seems like that's the core repeating argument and I understand that.

The options were:

1. Keep it as it was. A longer season from start to finish. More rep affected games. And a Aus-Nz game in May that's pretty one sided and doesn't reflect the true level of each teams abilities.

2. Move all the internationals to the end of the season.

3. Shove all the internationals into the middle of the season and have a longer season that's even more disrupted by rep matches.

4. Compromise. Reduce the impact of rep/origin matches on the NRL & length of the season by moving 1 game to October.

Well Option 1 - people whinged about the length of the season, impact on players, rep games overshadowing other matches, the one-sided test match. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Option 2 - it may come to that. The minute big stars start getting injured for a Cook Islands one-off match during the middle of the season the pressure will be on. At least injured players have the off-season afterwards to recover.

Option 3 - if you think people whinge about 1 game impacting the season, imagine 5, 10 or 20 matches. Like I said, you hear other sports talking all the time about wanting separate international & domestic seasons. And usually a lot of the international supporters say things like Kill Origin etc. They're not going to kill their cash cow. Even the Sunday move is, as I've said age ago, a least risk option.

Option 4 - the option that happened. It's not perfect but it's not as extreme as the others.

I'm sure people will disagree with this assessment. You're never going to get everyone to agree about everything. But then again, it's easy to be negative in hindsight from the safety of an internet forum.

 

[Evil Homer]

It seems like that's the core repeating argument and I understand that.

The options were:

1. Keep it as it was. A longer season from start to finish. More rep affected games. And a Aus-Nz game in May that's pretty one sided and doesn't reflect the true level of each teams abilities.

2. Move all the internationals to the end of the season.

3. Shove all the internationals into the middle of the season and have a longer season that's even more disrupted by rep matches.

4. Compromise. Reduce the impact of rep/origin matches on the NRL & length of the season by moving 1 game to October.

Well Option 1 - people whinged about the length of the season, impact on players, rep games overshadowing other matches, the one-sided test match. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Option 2 - it may come to that. The minute big stars start getting injured for a Cook Islands one-off match during the middle of the season the pressure will be on. At least injured players have the off-season afterwards to recover.

Option 3 - if you think people whinge about 1 game impacting the season, imagine 5, 10 or 20 matches. Like I said, you hear other sports talking all the time about wanting separate international & domestic seasons.

Option 4 - the option that happened. It's not perfect but it's not as extreme as the others.

I'm sure people will disagree with this assessment. You're never going to get everyone to agree about everything. But then again, it's to call these things out in hindsight from the safety of an internet forum.

Except that isn't what has happened at all, they've just replaced the ANZAC international with an Origin match. Cut out an international game for the sake of, um, nothing.

Why not move Origin to the end of the season if it's that much of an issue? Or scrap it altogether considering it's considerably less competitive than international footy? (this isn't a serious suggestion BTW but neither should scrapping the ANZAC match be, yet here we are)

 

[East Coast Tiger]

According to new reports the ARLC are going to put a cap on the number of people allowed to watch the October Trans-Tasman test match on television.

David Smith was quoted as saying "Look, we know people want to watch the Trans-Tasman test. But because the match is in October now we want to stop 400,000 existing viewers from watching because of... some reason."

"Sure, these viewers might try crafty tricks like turning the television on or switching it to the correct station. But we will go to each of their houses and plead with them not to do these things."

"If that fails, we will put a black piece of cardboard over their televisions. If they try to remove the cardboard we will use gaffer tape to secure it."

"Ultimately, as the disgruntled fans on internet forums have pointed out, it is in the best interests of the sport to do this for... some reason."

Source: www.paranoidrugbyleaguefans.com/400000lessviewersconspiracytheory.wtf

Like I said, the welsh banker fans think less people watching international football is a good thing.

Exhibit A.

 

[RoosTah]

For all you people moaning about this, can you explain to me why it was good having one off random tests in the middle of the season as a warm up to Origin that never got close to selling stadiums out?

Those mid season tests actually DEVALUED test footy. They should always have come after Origin at the very least, and should never just be one offs.

Except that isn't what has happened at all, they've just replaced the ANZAC international with an Origin match. Cut out an international game for the sake of, um, nothing.

Why not move Origin to the end of the season if it's that much of an issue? Or scrap it altogether considering it's considerably less competitive than international footy? (this isn't a serious suggestion BTW but neither should scrapping the ANZAC match be, yet here we are)

Because mathematics, champ.

Origin ratings are 4 million per match - or 10 times this one off mid season test that isn't even anywhere near ANZAZ Day, meanwhile Kangaroos tests that come after the season often close to sell out and score closer to the million mark in terms of ratings.

It's not that f**king complicated guys.

 

[taipan]

Best of the options available.
IMO Origin mid season,NRL slightly disrupted,then concentration of Internationals end of season,means working up to internationals.
Order of priority ,players who miss out on the semis some get picked for the Internationals and continue training .
Internationals are thus not impeded by other rl matches.They can lose for some relevance mid NRL season>I had no problem then,but many others did.

People bitched about Origin affecting clubs,people whined about one Test match mid year affecting clubs,now we get some sort of sense of direction for the game,the usual whiners and diners are still out in force.

Oh it's all the Welsh Banker's fault .He should have got us $2,5bn ,and we should play all NRL games on a Sunday afternoon at 3pm,he should be earning no more than $50,000 pa,he's hopeless.:roll:

And i agree with RoosTah.

 

[docbrown]

Why not move Origin to the end of the season if it's that much of an issue? Or scrap it altogether considering it's considerably less competitive than international footy? (this isn't a serious suggestion BTW but neither should scrapping the ANZAC match be, yet here we are)

If you know cutting/moving Origin isn't a serious suggestion, then you probably would have preferred to stick with the current system & just moan about that instead.

Instead you're moaning about this.

Like I said, the welsh banker fans think less people watching international football is a good thing.

Exhibit A.

Bring back Gallop! :lol:

 

[Bombay Devils RLFC]

Yeah, let's make jokes when people rightly complain about the ARL f**king up and holding the sport back. Good one.

Think you are a hard marker Evil Homer.

We will now have 4 free to air games, only one split round and an origin on Sunday which is what a lot of people having been asking for.

On top of this the code is likely to get an extra $500M.

Maybe less people will watch the test or maybe not but surely the above outweighs all of this

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Like I said so called supporters of the game happy that less people will be watching international rugby league.

 

[Bombay Devils RLFC]

Like I said, the welsh banker fans think less people watching international football is a good thing.

Exhibit A.

No one said that East Coast. What they are saying is that the other changes (4 free to air games etc) which you have conveniently left out are a better way forward.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

No one said that East Coast. What they are saying is that the other changes (4 free to air games etc) which you have conveniently left out are a better way forward.

A better way for who?

Why the f**k would i mention nrl games being on fta when the issue is international football?

f**k me there are some dumb merkins around here.

The nrl have shat on irl and people are saying but but but the nrl and origin...

Who gives a f**k about the nrl or origin?

What does richo's whole game review say about irl? You know the one he was hired to do and was going to dictate the future of the sport. Does it say we need less people watching irl? Does it say we need less exposure for the kangaroo brand? Does it say scrap the test without even telling the nzrl about it?

I guess it must.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Like I said so called supporters of the game happy that less people will be watching international rugby league.

It's likely that the end of year tests will have more people watching mate, surely you understand that?

I have been to every one held in Brisbane, it was a bit of a tradition for me and some mates to go to it but I won't really miss it if it's replaced by an end-of-year test window where we play a couple of matches.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

In season tests out rate end of year tests massively.

Therefore the nrl has ensured the exposure of irl in australia has just been slashed by the same amount.

That is one of the single biggest atrocities suffered by irl at the hands of admin we've ever seen.

 

[RoosTah]

A better way for who?

Why the f**k would i mention nrl games being on fta when the issue is international football?

f**k me there are some dumb merkins around here.

The nrl have shat on irl and people are saying but but but the nrl and origin...

Who gives a f**k about the nrl or origin?

What does richo's whole game review say about irl? You know the one he was hired to do and was going to dictate the future of the sport. Does it say we need less people watching irl? Does it say we need less exposure for the kangaroo brand? Does it say scrap the test without even telling the nzrl about it?

I guess it must.

Questions: what point was there to the mid season test? Everyone thought it was out of place where it was and the ratings reflect that...

Sure, it rated decently enough on a weekend when there were no club games, but this year's test still got literally less than HALF the ratings the 4N opener against NZ did last year.

What does that tell you?

As I said before, it's not f**king complicated. It tells you people care more about their international footy when there's a build up and when it's ABOUT something.

The ANZAC test was never near ANZAC Day, had no lead up, and thus limited time for training camps etc that would allow either side to be at their best and also generally robbed the Kiwis of Super League players they might otherwise select.

What's more, the attendances tended to be piss poor compared to the end of year stuff and the coverage of it got drowned out by NRL and Origin news.

So what are you bitching about?

 

[East Coast Tiger]

This years mid year test outrated the 4n easily.

Check your facts dickhead. You have just spouted a heap of shit based on ignorance. Well done.

And it was never supposed to be on anzac day either. Nor does arguing it robbed players, because it didnt. And end of year tests will be FAR more hit by withdrawals.

Basically a geniused post all round.

 

[docbrown]

Who gives a f**k about the nrl or origin?

:roll:

If only we could schedule Cook Islands vs Tonga every Friday night... :lol: