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5th Test: Austalia vs England at SCG Jan 3-7 2011

Hallatia

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Khawaja looked better making that 37 than Ponting has all series. I don't think Ponting is ready to retire yet though, but I think Kat may have played his last test and think Hussey should retire.

From what I have seen so far this Ashes and all of last year, I feel really strongly that Hussey should retire after this test, he has done some great things for Australia and he has had a good Ashes series this Summer, but I think this would be his last chance to retire on his own terms. I think from there the batting order could be reshuffled to make Khawaja a permanent fixture at 3 and Ponting to move down the order to 4 or 5. Clarke may need to move down the order or be dropped again, or God knows what... I am starting to think that Watson would make a better captain than him as well. Clarke does have talent, but he really does not have the right head for a professional athlete. When he is good he is good, but when he is bad he is dismal as he has shown this Ashes, he has had one good knock and then the way he lost his wicket made him cry like a girl and worsened his issues just as he was picking up...
 

Tommy Smith

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Hussey has almost single handedly kept Australia in this series and you want him to retire?

Odd, very odd.

The selectors should be able to 'look to the future' as well as maintain a capable test side at the same time. And there's no doubt that if Australia are serious about challenging Sri Lanka, India and RSA over the next 12 months then Hussey must play.
 

Danish

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dumbest post I will read this year.



care to argue the point??

Its cricket, one of the least exerting sports on the planet. Look at those gatorade tracker stats they've been putting up during these tests. Even fast bowlers aren't clocking up any more than 10-12km over the course of a day, with about 2-3km at a run, another 2-3 at a jog, and the rest at walking pace.

And they only do that for 2-3 days out of 5.

batsmen will cover more if they can bat for an entire day, but thats a bloody big if. In this entire series there have only been a few occasions where a batsman has been in for more than 3-4 hours for example.

If they can't recover enough in 2 days from that sort of physical demand then they are quite simply not professional athletes.
 

Panther_Daz

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Cheers...any idea where he played cricket as a kid?

Played for St Clair Hawks and Penrith Reps as a young kid up until about 12. He went to the same Primary School as me James Erskine Public School. Played with him a couple of times for the School.

He then left the area and played for South Eastern IIRC.

As for the person who asked if he has opened before, he was ALWAYS an opener until he got into the State side where there was plenty of openers already there. Opened for NSW 19's with Tom Cooper.
 

Gidley Up

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care to argue the point??

Its cricket, one of the least exerting sports on the planet. Look at those gatorade tracker stats they've been putting up during these tests. Even fast bowlers aren't clocking up any more than 10-12km over the course of a day, with about 2-3km at a run, another 2-3 at a jog, and the rest at walking pace.

And they only do that for 2-3 days out of 5.

batsmen will cover more if they can bat for an entire day, but thats a bloody big if. In this entire series there have only been a few occasions where a batsman has been in for more than 3-4 hours for example.

If they can't recover enough in 2 days from that sort of physical demand then they are quite simply not professional athletes.

Haha, dumbass. Stick to knowing nothing about league.
 

TheParraboy

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Hussey has almost single handedly kept Australia in this series and you want him to retire?

Odd, very odd.


The selectors should be able to 'look to the future' as well as maintain a capable test side at the same time. And there's no doubt that if Australia are serious about challenging Sri Lanka, India and RSA over the next 12 months then Hussey must play.

Odd?

Hallatia makes a good point. Hussey has gone missing in action the previous 15 months or so, and was very instrumental in us losing a lot of test matches (along with north and johnson) because of long term poor form. Take out the 100 vs pakistan (dropped by akmal 4 times in a pakistan match fixing game) and he averages under 24 in the period leading into the ashes

He has capatalized batting on roads in this test series, where ponting, clarke, north and out of form hughes havent
 
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TheParraboy

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care to argue the point??

Its cricket, one of the least exerting sports on the planet. Look at those gatorade tracker stats they've been putting up during these tests. Even fast bowlers aren't clocking up any more than 10-12km over the course of a day, with about 2-3km at a run, another 2-3 at a jog, and the rest at walking pace.

And they only do that for 2-3 days out of 5.

batsmen will cover more if they can bat for an entire day, but thats a bloody big if. In this entire series there have only been a few occasions where a batsman has been in for more than 3-4 hours for example.

If they can't recover enough in 2 days from that sort of physical demand then they are quite simply not professional athletes.

you got nfi by only harping on about cardio activity

the amount of back stress and shock going through a fast bowler in his every delivery stride is massive, something like 8 times his body weight with every delivery. one of the easiest exerting sports? lol
 

AusKnightRKO

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Uzzie looked great and hughes was much better for his 31

theres no way you leave ponting out, tendulker went through this about 3 seasons ago where he hit 95 over 3 tests against sri lanka.

Now hes been pretty much the best indian batsman against the No1 Ranked South Africans in this away from home Series.

so bring him back and have

1. Hughes
2. Watson
3. Khawaja
4. Ponting
5. Clarke (C)
6. Hussey
7. Haddin
8. Smith
9. Johnson
10. Siddle
11. Bollinger

12th Man Mitchell Stark, Copeland, Cutting
 

Danish

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you got nfi by only harping on about cardio activity

the amount of back stress and shock going through a fast bowler in his every delivery stride is massive, something like 8 times his body weight with every delivery. one of the easiest exerting sports? lol


It is absolutely one of the physically least demanding professional sports in Australia.

A 1st class cricketer can hang about into his 40s, for example. There isn't another sport in which you can earn good cash in Oz with that sort of longevity (except perhaps goalie in the A-league).

It is also the only sport I know of in which you can have fat people representing at the highest level. Blokes like Hughes, Boon, Lehmann etc were all legitimately overweight to the tune of 15+kg and yet were able to play the game at the highest level, taking several hundred wickets and thousands of runs between them.

It simply can't be that hard on the body for blokes of their size and fitness to be able to pull it off.

Thats not to say it isn't tough. I'm simply saying that having 2 days of rest between tests is enough
 

Fast Eddie

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Haha have you ever played a 3-4 day match let alone a 5 day match? As a fast bowler bowling 15-20 overs in a day and having to field for over a 100 overs at least most likely it puts a ridiculous strain on your body.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/142862.html

On the second day, Jones, playing in only his third Test and having been recalled after nearly three years, took his score to 210, the highest by an Australian in a Test in India (previously 167, by Graham Yallop at Calcutta in 1979-80). In all he batted for 503 minutes, facing 330 balls and hitting 27 fours and two sixes. His first century took 335 minutes, the second 164. He fought off the effects of nausea and leg-cramps during his innings, after which he was so dehydrated that he was put on a saline drip and detained overnight in hospital.
 

snoozer

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was happy with hughes and especially khawaja.

khawaja showed some real promise today.

hughes (like smith) needs some time but i think he will eventually get there.

i've got no comment on the ponting stay or go thing.

clarke needs to score runs.if he can't do that he needs to be rested - swaugh went through it and he turned out pretty good.
 
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What are they doing with Smith?

If he isn't going to bat in the top 6 or be the frontline spinner (which IMO he isn't up to standard in either yet) then why is he in the team?

To be an ok #7 and bowl part-time leggies?

We may as well just play with 10.
 

Big Pete

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It's funny how many people were quick to drop the test captain for a guy who only managed to make 37, decent first knock but he has some ways to go before dislodging the test captain.

Hussey can stick around for another 12 months too, we simply don't have any other options who are ready to step up.
 

beads6

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It's funny how many people were quick to drop the test captain for a guy who only managed to make 37, decent first knock but he has some ways to go before dislodging the test captain.

Hussey can stick around for another 12 months too, we simply don't have any other options who are ready to step up.

we can't afford to carry Ponting anymore. He has had a stellar career but time to prepare for the future not give him another year. You sound like a selector and we know how often they get it right. :crazy:
 
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Evenflow

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Hussey has almost single handedly kept Australia in this series and you want him to retire?

Odd, very odd.

The selectors should be able to 'look to the future' as well as maintain a capable test side at the same time. And there's no doubt that if Australia are serious about challenging Sri Lanka, India and RSA over the next 12 months then Hussey must play.

Right on both points. LOL @ calls to drop Hussey, not only has he almost sindgle handedly kept us in this series, he was also our leading run scorer in 2010 and also 9th highest in the world. Sure, he might have had plenty of chances when his form has been down but so f**king what? He still scored MORE runs last year than EVERY other player in the side yet people still want to drop him? :crazy: Anyway it's a moot point, as f**ked up as the selectors are i don't think they're certifiable enough to retire our leading run scorer in the last year.

I also agree that looking to the future doesn't automatically mean getting rid of blokes over a certain age. You can't just bring all the young fellas in at once without having a mix of experienced players in as well. They'll learn moreand benifit a sh*tload more off them by being in the side as opposed to not having the likes of Hussey and Ponting around
 

Big Pete

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You see Beads, you've got this all wrong. I'm not keeping Ponting around for the sake of his own legacy, oh no, I'm keeping him around because the future needs another year and I believe Ponting has a few good knocks left in him where as our next generation still need to work on a few issues.

Hopefully in a years time the likes of Paine, Wade, Ferguson, Khawaja, Maddinson step up (with Lynn putting the pressure on) while Huss, Punter and Haddin mosseying on out, hopefully with their heads held high.

What I would love to see is Cricket Australia take some firm action in developing these players. I'd suggest organising a few Australia A test matches while sending a few of these players over to play County cricket - Twenty/20 maybe hip but the only environment the public truly cares about is test cricket, the sooner CA realises this the better.
 
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