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Morley ban threat ruffles Roosters

By PETE ROWE and RAY CHESTERTON

January 17, 2004

THE English Rugby League is threatening to slap a six-month worldwide ban on the Sydney Roosters' British hitman Adrian Morley following his serious drink-driving offence in the UK.

Morley, who returned to pre-season training with the Roosters only two weeks ago because of the court case, is expected to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute by the English RFL next week.

Officials at the English league's headquarters in Leeds are furious that his actions caused immense embarrassment to the Great Britain team sponsor Think-Don't Drive – the British government version of the Arrive Alive drink-driving campaign here in Australia.

It has also emerged that the giant second-rower was banned from driving for three years – not the six months as previously reported – because it was his second offence.

Morley was convicted of the same offence two years ago and banned then for one year.

This time, on December 13 last year, he was stopped for driving erratically in the Manchester suburb of Salford late at night.

Police say the Great Britain league hardman tried to leave the scene of the incident and ran through a nearby field before being tackled by two law enforcement officers.

His charge sheet mentions that he "attempted to evade arrest". He also initially gave a false name – Tommy Smith – when asked for it by one of the policemen.

Unluckily for Morley, one of the police officers recognised him and asked why it was different to the one published in the match program for the Great Britain v Australia third Ashes Test the previous week.

Morley, 26, was given a $5000 fine on top of the three-year ban and ordered not to leave the country until he had served a 40-hours community service order – the reason for his delayed arrival back in Sydney.

Morley's blood/alcohol level was more than twice the UK limit of 25 at 83 units of alcohol.

English rugby league spokesman John Huxley said the incident had been fully investigated.

"The RFL takes a very poor view of any actions of this sort by a contracted international player," he told The Daily Telegraph from Leeds.

"We have been in contact with the Roosters to inform them that a charge could be brought next week – and the maximum penalty could be a six-month ban from the game.

"That would mean a worldwide ban," he added.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis was last night dismissive of the proposed new charges against Morley by the English Rugby League.

"If Morley is banned from playing in Sydney then they had better get ready to ban a few more," Politis said.

"I can think of 10 people who have been in similar situations, including some CEOs."

Deputy chairman of the International Board, Maurice Lindsay, who is in Sydney for the Sevens, said he was stunned by the English RFL's move.

"I'll sit back and look at what is happening when there is more information available," he said.
 

Aries

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ShireShark said:
Morley ban threat ruffles Roosters

By PETE ROWE and RAY CHESTERTON

January 17, 2004

THE English Rugby League is threatening to slap a six-month worldwide ban on the Sydney Roosters' British hitman Adrian Morley following his serious drink-driving offence in the UK.

Morley, who returned to pre-season training with the Roosters only two weeks ago because of the court case, is expected to be charged with bringing the game into disrepute by the English RFL next week.

Officials at the English league's headquarters in Leeds are furious that his actions caused immense embarrassment to the Great Britain team sponsor Think-Don't Drive – the British government version of the Arrive Alive drink-driving campaign here in Australia.

It has also emerged that the giant second-rower was banned from driving for three years – not the six months as previously reported – because it was his second offence.

Morley was convicted of the same offence two years ago and banned then for one year.

This time, on December 13 last year, he was stopped for driving erratically in the Manchester suburb of Salford late at night.

Police say the Great Britain league hardman tried to leave the scene of the incident and ran through a nearby field before being tackled by two law enforcement officers.

His charge sheet mentions that he "attempted to evade arrest". He also initially gave a false name – Tommy Smith – when asked for it by one of the policemen.

Unluckily for Morley, one of the police officers recognised him and asked why it was different to the one published in the match program for the Great Britain v Australia third Ashes Test the previous week.

Morley, 26, was given a $5000 fine on top of the three-year ban and ordered not to leave the country until he had served a 40-hours community service order – the reason for his delayed arrival back in Sydney.

Morley's blood/alcohol level was more than twice the UK limit of 25 at 83 units of alcohol.

English rugby league spokesman John Huxley said the incident had been fully investigated.

"The RFL takes a very poor view of any actions of this sort by a contracted international player," he told The Daily Telegraph from Leeds.

"We have been in contact with the Roosters to inform them that a charge could be brought next week – and the maximum penalty could be a six-month ban from the game.

"That would mean a worldwide ban," he added.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis was last night dismissive of the proposed new charges against Morley by the English Rugby League.

"If Morley is banned from playing in Sydney then they had better get ready to ban a few more," Politis said.

"I can think of 10 people who have been in similar situations, including some CEOs."

Deputy chairman of the International Board, Maurice Lindsay, who is in Sydney for the Sevens, said he was stunned by the English RFL's move.

"I'll sit back and look at what is happening when there is more information available," he said.

Drink Driving has nothing to do with playing footy...

The ERFL can "ban his brains out" but what that has to do with the NRL is a different matter...

Heaven help him if he gets busted here for DUI though... ;-)

Actually, come to think of it, isn't someone with a criminal record subject to OUR laws to even BE or COME here?... Hmmm!!

bye bye Morley, you Pommie git!!
 

gunnamatta bay

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Alias Tommy Smith? Surely he could have done better then that. I mean if your going to supply a bogey name to the cops u have to make it sound convincing.
 

Shark

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Chesterton & Co said:
Police say the Great Britain league hardman tried to leave the scene of the incident and ran through a nearby field before being tackled by two law enforcement officers.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Unluckily for Morley, one of the police officers recognised him and asked why it was different to the one published in the match program for the Great Britain v Australia third Ashes Test the previous week.
GOLD, that one! Onya Mr Plod! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Morley's blood/alcohol level was more than twice the UK limit of 25 at 83 units of alcohol.
A totally different measurement to our PCA-type decimal system. I don't know what the reading would have been in 'Aussie-Speak', ie 0.12, 0.15 etc.

"We have been in contact with the Roosters to inform them that a charge could be brought next week – and the maximum penalty could be a six-month ban from the game.

"That would mean a worldwide ban," he added.
Aries - Why wouldn't this stick in Australia? Warne's drug ban was global. A suspension for an illegal tackle in a Test or even in the ESL would carry over to a player moving to the NRL, as I'm sure a left-over suspension for illegal play here would carry to the ESL if a player signed in another comp. And the ESL are not talking about charging him with DUI, they want to charge him with 'Disrepute'. He could be charged with that, by the game itself, for walking down the street in the nuddy. It's no different to a disciplinary charge for a coach who abuses a ref or a player who snots someone in a car park punch up. That the action conflicts with the interests of a major sponsor (and the interests of the entire community, both in the UK and here) only increases the expectation that he gets severely punished.

Roosters chairman Nick Politis was last night dismissive of the proposed new charges against Morley by the English Rugby League.

"If Morley is banned from playing in Sydney then they had better get ready to ban a few more," Politis said.

"I can think of 10 people who have been in similar situations, including some CEOs."
LOL, well old Nick would say that, wouldn't he. *edit*

aries said:
Heaven help him if he gets busted here for DUI though...
Actually Aries, the DUI/Drink Drive laws and penalties in the UK are MUCH more stringent than here. If you go for even a LOW range offence in the UK, you WILL lose your licence for a minimum of 12 months, mandatory. No exceptions, no negotiation. It can't be reduced, and there is NO 'Section 10'-type option available to the magistrate to dismiss the charge and record 'no conviction' as happens all to often in NSW and other Australian States. The fines are also much higher there. They could teach our courts a few things about handling these types of crimes.

*edit*
 

Anonymous

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Found this in another forum and thought it would be of interest...

Yakstorm said:
- The Think! Contract that all Great Britain and Ireland players sign allows them to be trialled by the RFL or RLIF discipline board for the charge of 'bringing the game into disrepute' if they are found drink driving during their time of being under the employment of the Rugby Football League.

- Morley was a paid employee of the Rugby Football League from the 7th October, and that employment was scheduled to last till the start of Janurary. He was doing more than just playing for the Lions, but was also going to be used for a number of promotions by the RFL.

- It was cause Morley at the time was an employee of the RFL, that he can recieve such a heafty punishment. As Penelope Pittstop said, there are many players who have done worse, but their employees (ie the clubs at the time) deemed it was not neccessary to make it a big thing in the public light. The NRL as it doesn't employee the players could only punish it, if it had some connection to the football field.

- And just to add to the end of this, the RFL are quickly trying to patch over relations with the Department of Transport and their 'ThinK! Don't Drink Drive' campaign, cause they stand to lose the very lucartive sponsorship if they don't act appropiately on the issue.

And of course world wide suspensions are plausible - ie. because every suspension doled out each week by the NRL or ESL is a worldwide ban. If a player is suspended for 5 matches in his last game in Australia before heading off to England, the ban still applies when he joins the English game.
 
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The moderating here is becoming more and more over the top, in the original thread I called Morley a *edit*

Needless to say it got deleted. This forum is really becoming tiresome. And dont try to ask questions of the head mods either, theyre unaccountable to anyone and theyre not interested in responding to queries.

I'm not trying to start a big issue or anything but I think a bit more freedom of speech is in order, for f**k's sake.
 

Shark

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I'm with you SS, I had a couple of 'pub-speak' words in my post, but nothing that any regular viewer here would find offensive. Fatherless Child-type words, nothing worse. But entire sentences are missing!

Maybe it's just the bits that relate to some character assessments of Morley and Politis that attracted attention :?: .

Do we have a Rooster fan in our midst as a Mod? :roll:
 
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Shark, it's a bloody scandal.

Especially when they dont edit the C word around here (and I'm not saying they should).

It's over the top. I'm not running a campaign against the people who run this site but over the past few weeks this place has gone downhill. I dont know why the head mods are spending so much time on the Sharks forum, The other forums dont seem to get the same sort of treatment. And whenever you raise a query with them, they fob you off and say they dont have to explain themselves and that the case is closed. And youre left there scratching your head as to why theyve made a specific decision. They seem to enjoy leaving you puzzled. I wish this forum was as good as it was when I first signed up.

They were keen to uphold freedom of speech. Now they cant wait to trample all over it. I dont get it? :(
 

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Yeah, well I guess the RLeague 'ripples' have rocked the whole pond.

I can understand an official club site having reasonably strict patrols, and a 'no correspondence will be entered into' policy, but I don't see the need for it on a site with no official connections to any other organisation.
 

Anonymous

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Shire Shark, if you require a run down on how your words had the potential to lead to defamation, I'm more than happy to run you through it. My PM is always open. Freedom of speech is a great concept. But alas, it doesnt always extend into character assassinations. btw, the c word is edited but I cant see what relevance the word filter has here.

Furthermore, the 'head mods' do not 'spend so much time here'... and no one is 'trampling on your freedom of speech'. Thats just an overeaction on your part.
All forums are moderated with admin looking in regularly. The frequency of moderating is governed by the size of the forum and the number of posts.
To say otherwise sounds like paranoia.

One more thing, when have I or any other admin 'fobbed you off'. And there is no deliberate attempt to 'leave you puzzled'. Again, a complete overeaction.

Shark. 'Pub speak' is usually conducted in the pub, not in an open and public forum. Your post was deleted because it was defamatory. It has nothing to do with team loyalties. Your post was proof that this thread has to be watched.
 

Anonymous

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Shark said:
Yeah, well I guess the RLeague 'ripples' have rocked the whole pond.

I can understand an official club site having reasonably strict patrols, and a 'no correspondence will be entered into' policy, but I don't see the need for it on a site with no official connections to any other organisation.
Thats where you are completely wrong. This site is answerable to the same internet laws as any other website.

Furthermore, while we may not be an official club forum, we have strong links with a number of clubs and would like to extend this in the future.

btw guys, we want the Sharks forum here to prosper and in that we want to promote news about the Sharks as well. To me, its all to do with RL first and team loyalties second. You'll find that in the long run, LU will back all teams in the same way.
 

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Adrian Morley is a fantastic player. He is the greatest rugby league player in the world.
He makes the biggest hits in the game and is a role model for the Roosters.
Lonrho is better than Kingston Town.
St George are a fantastic Rugby League Side. Their home ground is the best in the Comp.
Abba are bigger than the Beatles.

Pick the lowest statement. Maybe I should make it a poll.
 

Anonymous

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Having spoken to Willow, I do agree he and all the moderators and admins want all the forums to prosper, club allegiance or not. However, there are certain boundaries that we have to live by and if we stick to those boundaries everything should be sweet.
 

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Fair enough Willow, but the part of my post that was deleted basically said:

'Hopefully any ban dished out by the ESL (or whoever) won't be necessary, because our immigration officials possibly won't let the [insert b-word] back into the country anyway'.

How is that defamatory? It's merely a representation of what has been reported in the popular media.

Morley is, in my opinion, a poor role model and a dirty footballer with questionable sportsmanship standards. His record and behaviour, on and off the field, would suggest as much, and it is on these things that I choose to judge him.

Call that defamation if you like, but I could write the same thing in a letter to any major metropolitan newspaper and, space permitting, they would publish it.
 

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Shark said:
Fair enough Willow, but the part of my post that was deleted basically said:

'Hopefully any ban dished out by the ESL (or whoever) won't be necessary, because our immigration officials possibly won't let the [insert b-word] back into the country anyway'.

How is that defamatory? It's merely a representation of what has been reported in the popular media.

I would agree but you've left out the juicy bits.
Shark said:
Maybe it's just the bits that relate to some character assessments of Morley and Politis that attracted attention
And the rest... another public individual was also dragged into this thread.
There was a post here today which basically challenged the site owners to take action.

Its akin to being caught between a rock a hard place. If I let it go, there'd be complaints and potential threats to the site. If I delete it, then its an attack on someone's self proclaimed freedom of opinion... an opinion which no doubt would take flight at the first sign of trouble.
 

Shark

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Yeah, no dramas then Willow.

None of this would be an issue though if Adrian Morley hadn't broken UK Traffic Law though, would it!

Cheers.
 
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None of this would be an issue though if Adrian Morley hadn't broken UK Traffic Law though, would it!

Cheers.

So if you cant call a criminal a criminal, can you call a spade a spade? Can you call a Shark a Shark?
 

Aries

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Hey Shark

Think you had better re-read MY post again mate ;-)

You quote me twice for your arguement, yet you basically agree with what I said... :?
 
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