Affiliation with J/Beam Rhino's

[2 True Blues]

Pleased to hear we are linked to the Rhino's this season. We really lacked the reserve players when Jets pulled out of the beam cup last season.

Very promising that players signed by the jets can get a run with the rhino's and keep match fitness up whilst not playing in p/league. this was truly lacking last season when injuries and suspensions took their toll.

Great move jets. well done. ;-)

 

[Die-Hard p/t Jet Fan]

I am going to reserve judgement on this move until the cursed jet weighs in on this one with his esteemed knowledge and succinct delivery.

 

[2 True Blues]

Well think of previous seasons mate. We have relied heavily and continually on the Jim Beam ranks. Then half the side are either injured, in first grade, suspended, or left for greener pastures mid season during 2007, and we had no reserve's to call on of any quality.

We need this mate.

 

[2 True Blues]

Was actually just wondering what their team lineup is on paper !!

Can players whom are not actually jets signings step up from the side if required ???

apparently the club chairman is Terry LAMB ?? Is their a bulldogs link at all ??

 

[THECURSEDJET]

I am going to reserve judgement on this move until the cursed jet weighs in on this one with his esteemed knowledge and succinct delivery.

well thanks for the great lead in Bruce..

personally my thoughts are the Jets signings are mainly Jim beam cuppers, I can't imagine the roosters allowing any of the fringe players playing on Terry Lamb oval at Chester Hill, in all seriousness, the NSW cup is shaping as nothing more than a Jim beam cup comp with the odd fringe 1st grader having a run as no 1st grade club is going to carry a full roster of top quality,high paid players to fill the numbers in this sub standard comp, until the NRL and NSWRL see the light and have one administrator of the game, the like of side such as the Jets, West, Norths and to a lesser extent Balmain will field teams in a comp that I believe is dieing a slow death.

if you guys dint like my serious side, please let me know and I will revert to opening a can of whoop ass on here??

 

[2 True Blues]

Well I am sure the jim Beam players are just that, ( already playing in the Jim Beam comp ), and the quality of players should not really vary as this is still the only real comp they have to play in whilst waiting for an NRL posey. The U20's will be mostly those would have played in jersey flegg either way, so not much change mate.

It would appear to me they don't want another company product so to speak tp play prior to an NRL game anymore, if anything.

I think the standard of the comp will still be the second highest tier/quality of league in NSW though after the NRL. That won't change so much as the location of games, jersey's etc.

All I was thinking was that to have an extra comp such as jim beam ( which i consider to be the 4th in quality, 3rd if they have a good day out ) is a good thing if we need ( or WHEN we need ) to utilise some quality replacements due to injurty/suspension etc.

 

[outsider]

You may find that the Roosters NYC players may still getlooked atfirst as a stepping stone to see who can step up tp FG rather than JBC players.

 

[2 True Blues]

Of coarse and that will happen. In previous years we have had "better" quality players ( Alf DUNCAN for example playing ( or should I say dwindling in the J/Beam side) and the NRL side dominated those decisions in order to blood youngersters that simply were not as good. And we lost games as a result.

Thoughsuch is the price we pay as a club who has no NRL side mate.

The fact is though, that often games have been won by those players who have in previous years been called up to P/League from Beam.Who have responded when given the opportunity to fill the " limited " ranks above them.

I am glad we have such a base to call upon again this upcoming season. And the Rhino's shall no doubt benefit from a similar situation that the Jetsnow presently,also benefit from.

A saving of money, with the added benefit of quality players that want to make the RoostersNRL side at any cost, which as such should reflect the score board positively, and also achieve an attraction of quality playerswho want to have a go at makin a better side.

All good as far as I see it.

 

[2 True Blues]

Here is a realistic sample of why we need this mate ??****

Roosters second rower Shane Shackleton has suffered an injury in the Foundation Cup that will potentially see him sidelined for 4 months.
Shackleton tore the bicep tendon off the bone in the Roosters 34-28 win over the Wests Tigers.
Roosters doctor John Orchard will assess the injury tomorrow but is fairly certain that it will require surgery and a four month rehabilitation.
No other injuries were reported from the match, however Craig Fitzgibbon was concussed in the first 5 minutes and Riley Brown is suffering from a corked thigh.
Both players are expected to play in next weekend's trial game against the Parramatta Eels.


**** And it's Pre season so far !!!!****

 

[greg]

An affiliation with the Leeds Rhinos would be better.:sarcasm:

 

[2 True Blues]

Here is some more info on the rhino's if anyone's interested:

Colours: Blue and gold

Home ground: Terry Lamb Reserve

Joined competition: 2007

Form guide: 2007 - 9th (out of 12)

Trial matches: Beat Sydney Bulls 24-16 at Crest Stadium, Beat Wentworthville 32-30 at Crest Stadium.

Gains: Nil

Losses: Nathan Barry (Milton-Ulladulla), Saia Makisi (England), Tinetali Papalii (trialling with Cronulla), Matt Habojen (retired).

Injuries played havoc with the Chester Hill Rhinos in their debut season and they must find the depth in order to be competitive.

If skipper David Thompson can remain injury-free on the etc etc ...........


****** Rhino's beat the WA reds in RD 1 Beam cup 28 to 24. Placing them in 6th place out of the twelve comp/teams. Jets signings Hep CAHILL and Albert HOPOATE both played for the Rhino's in their season opener. *****

 

[brendothejet]

You ask me the Jets have a perfect place for fringe players: The A Grade team.

3 years ago 5 or 6 premier league and Jim Beam Cup players came down and played a grade at several points in the year. Conversely several players went from the A grade team upwards, including Gilbert Modru who played in the Jets JBC Grand Final team.

NOt only did the A GRade team benefit from the players skills, but also from the information, the leadership and the sense of belonging to a bigger club. The team made it to the semi finals that year and built the foundations of a solid team. Blokes like Adam Bennet gave to the team instead of drifting off to play for some random JBC team they played in the Blue N of Newtown.

I'd like to think that the time spent playing with the A graders gave them all a little reminder of what Newtown is about.

The Jets have since scrapped, that affiliation and the JBC and in the last two years I have had to face Newtown players, as they have been dropped from Premier League back to other Souths juniors sides. tell me one other football club that would allow their players to play against each other. One week an A grader and a Premier League player could be in their teams, the next playing together in the A grade side, the next playing together in the JBC or Premier League and the week after running into each other for the Junior Jets and Coogee Dolphins respectively.

The A Grade team is now a shadow of its former self. Its stars have departed to play for other junior clubs, JBC side and Premier LEague teams. In 3 years we've gone from an A Grade force to an A-Reserve laughing stock. This sunday is our first game and we are going to get toweled.

In the past it wasn't so bad because we knew we belonged to something bigger, something special.

Now there is no back and forth between the clubs (senior and junior), there is no sharing of player and training resources. I have very fond, but very painful, memories of our once a month training session with the JBC/PL sides. Col Murphy shouting orders and the Cronulla Sharks coaching staff working on our skills. Learning the names of the top graders and learning about them. It was a club.

Now, we are a shadow of our former self.

The Jets need to establish a link with the Juniors. it can't just be stuart giving us a cheerio on matchday over the PA. it can't just be me waving the flag on an internet forum.

Our under 13's, 15' and 19s sides have some very talented footballers in them. If they were moulded and brought through the ranks there is now reason that they 23 junior teams at NEwtown cannot provide the future of the football cluib.

We've lost players to other Junior Clubs, Premier League, JBC and England all because there was nowhere for them to go, nothing for them to be a part of.

 

[outsider]

Brendo Souths Juniors were the ones who stopped the changes with limits to the number of players who could move up and down as you come under their banner while the Roosters Agrade sides were not affected as we pay to play in the comp and our players were excess Flegg kids.

I had the pleasure of watching the Chester Hill side play at least until half time before eading out to the stadium for FG. I was told that Chester Hill only wanted two olayers from above being Hopoate and Hep Cahill while the other players played in an A grade comp out west. They will struggle this year as the halves were merely speed hunps and have little in the way of skills to play up a grade.

 

[brendothejet]

Brendo Souths Juniors were the ones who stopped the changes with limits to the number of players who could move up and down as you come under their banner while the Roosters Agrade sides were not affected as we pay to play in the comp and our players were excess Flegg kids.

I had the pleasure of watching the Chester Hill side play at least until half time before eading out to the stadium for FG. I was told that Chester Hill only wanted two olayers from above being Hopoate and Hep Cahill while the other players played in an A grade comp out west. They will struggle this year as the halves were merely speed hunps and have little in the way of skills to play up a grade.

It wasn't souths. earlier on in my time there was a limit as to which grades you could switch between and that was given to us as the reason that the players stopped coming. Souths then erradicated that rule and as i said earlier, jets juniors were then playing against senior jets players.

stupid.

 

[NZ Jet]

Brendo, sorry to hear the A's are doing it tough and that the link between A's and Jets is no longer there. The Juniors are growing stronger by the year so hopefully this is only a passing phase through growing pains. Best of luck for 2008 in any case.

I have no idea, but assume the situation is something like:
Jets NSW Cup - standalone organisation with affiliation to Easts. No direct link to Newtown Juniors (as part of Souths district)
Chester Hill JBC - standalone club (at JBC level?) with affiliation to Jets and ???? link to Junior district (Bulldogs?)
Jets A grade / Juniors - part of Souths district. Associated to Newtown Jets (how? - through sports club?)

Would like to better understand this.

So I guess my questions would be…

1. Do the Jets see it is important to be able to draw players from A JBC level ? (seems a smart idea if JBC was well above A grade standard, otherwise players would struggle at NSW Cup)
2. Would Easts care either way ? (possibly not as they would expect to cover their needs from regular Jets NSW cup players contracted to them or Newtown, plus their U20s cup players)
3. Would there be any issue with Souths Juniors vs Easts Juniors (probably not - same reason as question 2)

It's a tough one for the club, and who knows what comps will survive over the next few years. I only hope Newtown continues to grow and one day has the resources to run a team one level below NSW Cup which could in turn link back closely to A grade to develop future players.

 

[brendothejet]

I only hope Newtown continues to grow and one day has the resources to run a team one level below NSW Cup which could in turn link back closely to A grade to develop future players.

Go back 3 years and we had just that. A semi finalist Premier League team, A grand finalist JBC team, a semi finalist A Grade team.

Now we have a NSW Cup team, an average JBC, tediously linked to the club, and a struggling reserves team.

 

[2 True Blues]

You ask me the Jets have a perfect place for fringe players: The A Grade team.

3 years ago 5 or 6 premier league and Jim Beam Cup players came down and played a grade at several points in the year. Conversely several players went from the A grade team upwards, including Gilbert Modru who played in the Jets JBC Grand Final team.

Not only did the A GRade team benefit from the players skills,(

**** A similar hope that Saint George " ILLAWARRA " now hold onto by not competing in this comp. And by distributing their talented P/league equivelant players in lesser quality leagues ( Like Helensburgh for EG where quality ex-Jets players like Frank SAMIA and BOBOGINE ( please excuse the miss spelling ) dwindle. Saints signing's that now play in some backwater oval against un-proffesional thugs they are supposed to some how convert into future NRL players thru their leadership . !! :crazy: . We know Saints will be pushin for a spot back in the NEW NSWRL Cup in 2009 no doubt. ******"


but also from the information, the leadership and the sense of belonging to a bigger club. The team made it to the semi finals that year and built the foundations of a solid team. Blokes like Adam Bennet gave to the team instead of drifting off to play for some random JBC team they played in the Blue N of Newtown.

I'd like to think that the time spent playing with the A graders gave them all a little reminder of what Newtown is about.

*** I agree with you totally mate , and love your passion but the Jets have to go ahead with the BEST quality , with the limited money/resources available at hand. The best that suits there overall cause
***
since scrapped, that affiliation and the JBC and in the last two years I have had to face Newtown players, as they have been dropped from Premier League back to other Souths juniors sides. tell me one other football club that would allow their players to play against each other.

*** Souths would ONLY be capable of that, and did the same when they played Russel RICHARDSON against us, ( who actually went to the Jets final year party ) and played all farkin season for us, until souths realised they might miss a semi birth and we might get one as they were behind us on the ladder. Thus these pricks play him against us mid season. !!!***

Premier League player could be in their teams, the next playing together in the A grade side, the next playing together in the JBC or Premier League and the week after running into each other for the Junior Jets and Coogee Dolphins respectively.

The A Grade team is now a shadow of its former self. Its stars have departed to play for other junior clubs, JBC side and Premier LEague teams. In 3 years we've gone from an A Grade force to an A-Reserve laughing stock. This sunday is our first game and we are going to get toweled.

In the past it wasn't so bad because we knew we belonged to something bigger, something special.

*** Sad that you feel that you are no longer in that club mate ***

Now there is no back and forth between the clubs (senior and junior), there is no sharing of player and training resources. I have very fond, but very painful, memories of our once a month training session with the JBC/PL sides. Col Murphy shouting orders and the Cronulla Sharks coaching staff working on our skills. Learning the names of the top graders and learning about them. It was a club.

Now, we are a shadow of our former self.****:? :? :? Thats not good at all if true !!
****
The Jets need to establish a link with the Juniors. it can't just be stuart giving us a cheerio on matchday over the PA. it can't just be me waving the flag on an internet forum.

Our under 13's, 15' and 19s sides have some very talented footballers in them. If they were moulded and brought through the ranks there is now reason that they 23 junior teams at NEwtown cannot provide the future of the football cluib.

We've lost players to other Junior Clubs, Premier League, JBC and England all because there was nowhere for them to go, nothing for them to be a part of.

Sad situation mate !!

 

[2 True Blues]

Maybe F/Souths can give some junior clubs back in exchange for the un-paid $300,000 they owed us. Or has it already been paid for utisilisation of Redfern Oval ( cheap farkin return ) in yr 2000. I so remember the favors they gave us then and watched the games there after played from that dump. but good old Col MURPHY yellin abuse from the glass booth just behind the seating/stadium area and the cold winter chill cutting thru the air, whilst also flowing thru the rock holes in the glass stadium sides. What a day out. Thanks souths !!

 

[outsider]

2TB, Souths juniors do not owe the Jets any money, you are thinking about the seniors which I am told was paid back in full a couple of years ago now. What was done with that money you would need to check on the balance sheets.

 

[brendothejet]

In a piece of good news. it looks like all my pissing and moaning has brought some relief. The A graders will apparently be getting some sessions in with the premier league boys AND i personally spoke to Brad Fitler last weekend and he said he would come to a game and hand out the jerseys to the boys.

Not bad