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AFL Round 9

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CyberKev

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Maybe its just me, but it seems as if the LWOS board has slowed-up a tad recently. This can't be a good thing for the board, but on the plus side this little weekly thread no longer looks so glaringly little. My tipping has crashed so spectacularly that I'm no longer even keeping score, but for what its worth, here's the oil for round 9...

<table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td align=left bgcolor=#f7f0de colspan=2><span>FRIDAY MAY 23</span></td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Essendonvs Port Adelaide </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Telstra Dome<span>7:40 PM AEST</span> <span>Essendon rebounded well last week, but there are obvious questions about the state of the opposition they were up against, and the Bombers will struggle to maintain form for a lengthy period minus the key players they are missing. Port invariably plays well against Essendon at any time, and while the Power has not reached the giddy heights of last season on the paddock, they are still a formidable opponent. The Power has also shown itself to be quite adept at winning in Melbourne in recent years and should be able to win comfortably here. I suspect that the Bomber forwards will struggle to kick 10+ goals (particularly if Cupido is held) and the red &amp; blacks lack the pace to go with the Power runners all night. Power by 44 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr> <td align=left bgcolor=#f7f0de colspan=2><span>SATURDAY MAY 24</span></td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Carltonvs Brisbane Lions </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Optus Oval<span>2:10 PM AEST</span> <span>Carlton has moved up one place on the ladder to 13th and already confidence is booming. On other forums there has been discussion about the Blues making the eight if they can get over Brisbane here. This isn't so much a case of putting the cart before the horse as it is about overlooking the fact that the horse is missing altogether. Carlton is battling bravely, but Brisbane is several classes above it as a football side and will not drop this one when it is keen to get wins up in Melbourne and preserve its spot at the head of the table. Some good players coming back for the Lions and while its defence has been criticised at times this year, it is hard to see the impotent Carlton forward line exploiting it here. Too much skill across the park and too many guns in the midfield makes this equation a simple one to answer. Lions by 50 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Melbournevs Fremantle </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Melbourne Cricket Ground<span>2:10 PM AEST</span> <span>For mine, Fremantle is the most interesting side in the competition, as it has the talent to do anything, but always carries with it the likelihood of doing stuff all. Chris Connolly will be obsessed about winning a second consecutive match in Melbourne and the Demons indifferent form this season suggests that this is a distinct possibility. I do feel that Melbourne has steadied a tad, however, and should be able to get over the still fragile Dockers provided they maintain a solid workrate. The Demons will need to win more ball from the middle, or they will leave their brittle defence wide open to the tall marking Freo forwards. Freo is good enough to win, but gut feeling and home advantage is leaning me toward Melbourne here... Demons by 10 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Collingwoodvs St Kilda </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Telstra Dome<span>7:10 PM AEST</span> <span>When these sides last met late last year it was something of a thriller with the Pies sneaking home, largely on the back of St Kilda's inability to punish them up forward. The Saints have a solid core of talent beginning to bubble and are capable of more than Collingwood when totally switched on. The Pies are still the more stable option though and will win if Tarrant &amp; Rocca decide to have one of their days on. Expect the Pies to grind away at the opposition in their usual fashion, which should be enough to get over a young Saints side that remains vulnerable to sides willing to play considered and patient football. Magpies by 15 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>West Coastvs Richmond </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Subiaco<span>7:40 PM AEST</span> <span>I never thought I'd be tipping against the Eagles at home this season, particularly not when they've been playing such resolute football. I'm going to though, as I think the Tigers can expose the Eagles in the midfield, provided Johnson &amp; Coughlan display the touch they've been showing all season. The Eagoles have won ball from the middle too, but I don't think they're as capable with the hard in and under stuff and the Tigers have been good this season at reducing things to the lowest common denominator. This will be a huge scalp for the Tigers and I feel that they have a workrate and self belief that can get them across the line. Tigers by 16 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr> <td align=left bgcolor=#f7f0de colspan=2><span>SUNDAY MAY 25</span></td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Kangaroosvs Sydney </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Manuka<span>12:30 PM AEST</span> <span>I've been more impressed by the Swans than the Roos this season, but the Latter side is still a hard nut to crack when playing in Canberra. Roos star Glen Archer has already started the gee-up process by declaring his side soft and you can expect the red &amp; whites to cop some physical stuff early in response to this. I also think that the sequence of Swans wins (largely unexpected) may brook enough lethargy and self-satisfaction in the Sydney unit to leave it vulnerable here. The roos will run it hard and with a supportive crowd behind it should be too tough when the games there to be won. Kangaroos by 12 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Geelongvs Hawthorn </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> Telstra Dome<span>2:10 PM AEST</span> Geelong is in all sorts of trouble... Its membership levels remain anaemic, its still carrying debt, its only won 1 from 8 this year, its only won 1 from 8 in its recent games against Hawthorn, it lacks depth of talent and experience in a big way, oh woe, oh woe... Cats by 24 pts</td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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</td></tr> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td align=left><span>Adelaidevs Western Bulldogs </span></td> <tr bgcolor=#f7f0de> <td colspan=2> AAMI Stadium<span>3:10 PM AEST</span> <span>When you speak of the Bulldogs you can pretty much regurgitate the above comments about Geelong. Alas there will be no smiles on the Hound dials this Sunday, with the side seemingly certain to be easily beaten by the Crows. Adelaide is not quite as good a side as the media would have you believe. It lacks a killer punch, has key defensive flaws and looks worryingly lazy at times. This being said, it can have all of these weaknesses and then some without being in danger of losing to battlers like Western. The Bulldogs are a genuine spoon challenger and will already be counting down the days remaining until season's end. I suggest that the Dog fans give this one away early and save themselves for the Hawthorn game the following week, which brings far more potential for joy. Adelaide by 60 pts</span></td></tr> <tr> <td colspan=2>
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CyberKev
 
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CyberKev

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"Oh I wish it would rain down... Down on me... Oh I wish it would rain down... Rain down on me now... Oh I wish it would rain down... Rain down over me!" I WISH IT WOULD RAIN (Phil Collins)

I thought I'd take the chance to discuss something that is felt acutely by each member of the small core group of LWOS regulars who access this weekly thread -- Drought! In this instance, I'm not talking about the literal H2O variety that has caused the entire nation such angst recently, but rather I am referring to the term in its unique footballing sense. There would not appear to be any universal agreement among the footballing public as to what constitutes a premiership drought, so I have placed an arbitrary qualifying figure of 10 years sans a premiership in order to present the following list.

Under this qualification, half of the current AFL clubs find themselves suffering from a prolonged absence from the premiership dias. If West Coast cannot win this year's premiership then they will enter the 34th drought to be suffered by a club in VFL/AFL history. Carlton have buckley's chance of winning a flag in the next 2 years, which will accordingly make them number 35 on the list. Sydney needs to salute this season, or the Swans will become the unwanted custodian of the longest drought in VFL/AFL history at 70 years and counting. This would put them within sight of the overall Australian elite sporting drought record of 76 years that is held by the now defunct North Sydney Bears.

The complete drought list is presented below, with ended droughts in blue and current droughts in red...

69 South Melbourne/Sydney [1934-2002]
St Kilda [1897-1965]

52 Fitzroy [1945-1996] *This ended only because Fitzroy were consumed by Brisbane and made effectively defunct

49 North Melbourne [1925-1974]

48 Footscray/Western Bulldogs [1955-2002]

39 Geelong [1964-2002]

38 Melbourne [1965-2002]

36 St Kilda [1967-2002]
Hawthorn [1925-1960]

31 Collingwood [1959-1989]

29 Footscray [1925-1953]

28 Geelong [1987-1924]

25 Melbourne [1901-1925]

22 Richmond [1981-2002]
Carlton [1916-1937]

21 Fitzroy [1923-1943]

20 Carlton [1948-1967]

18 Essendon [1966-1983]
North Melbourne [1978-1995]

17 Essendon [1925-1941]

16 Collingwood [1937-1952]

14 Brisbane [1987-2000]
South Melbourne [1919-1932]

13 Geelong [1938-1950]

12 Collingwood [1991-2002]
Melbourne [1927-1938]
Richmond [1908-1919]
South Melbourne [1987-1908]

11 Hawthorn [1992-2002]
Essendon [1951-1961]

10 Essendon [1913-1922]
Geelong [1953-1962]
Richmond [1922-1931]

It certainly doesn't make for pretty reading, and even though recent changes to the competition's structure were made to guard against prolonged droughts, I foresee several of the current ones continuing to lengthen appreciably, and a few new ones on the way.

CyberKev


 
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Ms.Storm

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Kev
I haven't forgotten you.;)
Good summary as usual, but a little off the boil with the Demons (again( and the Tigers...so far.

Last week you mentioned time for Schwabb to go.....the same could be said for ND!

Will be interesting to see...IMO P.S./N.D. and Thompson from Geelong are on the way out!

Freo are a good team on the way up and within a couple of years will probably play off for a premiership......the afl wins again.....that's if you like a compromised competition......but it seems to work.
 

Gav-bt

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Great write up Kev. I'm now without Satellite and therefore no more two hours of AFL per week.There's just a50 minute highlights progamme on C5 at 4:45am every Thursday morning to rely on and that's provided the NHL play-offs don't run into overtime.


 
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CyberKev

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Gav BT

Long time no communique, Old Son, how the bloody hell are ya? Sorry to hear that you're not getting a decent AFL coverage over your way, although I'd almost be too happy with 50 mins a week of late. The horrible Hawks would be flat stick filling a 50 second highlight reel unless, of course, the cameras were sticking rigidly with the opposition plays. You would be well pleased with the Tigers this season though. They got touched-up in the West last night, but that's a fate that awaits most sides, so I wouldn't be too fazed by it. Who are you on for the Champions League final this week? Early in the competition I said that either AC Milan or Valencia would win it, so I guess I'll be on Milan, even though Juventus is officially my Italian side.

Ms Storm

At this point I am pretty much without speech on the issue of presidents and their coaches! I'd imagine Gabriel Szondy has little to be happy about, aside from Hawthorn playing poorly enough to detract overt unwanted attention away from the insipid Demons,but you can probably expect ND to stay on in the job til season's end. Mind you, under Ian Dicker's interpretation of quality coaching, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs Daniher on at Glenferrie come season's end
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I suspect that the two clubs couldn't snare a finals berth if they merged (ouch, lets not go there again) and combined their points tallies. Oh well, at least you've got the Storm doing the right thing by you.

CyberKev
 

Gav-bt

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Kev,good to seeTige's are still top cats in Victoria. Shame about the Hawks, I'd like to see them back in the frame, doesn't look like happening this season does it.

Champions League? My hope is for Milan to win. I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the Rosaneri. Should be interesting to see OT packed to the rafters with Italians.
 
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CyberKev

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Gav BT

LOL! Hawthorn are not even on the bloody wall at the moment, much less "in the frame!" I strongly suspect that the eight we have now will be the eight we have at season's end, albeit with some of the sides occupying different positions. As such, I will surely throw my weight behind the Tigers to break their long running premiership drought. Normally I'd be rejoicing in the brand of crapness being displayed by Essendon &amp; Carlton, but it is just my luck for this to be the case in a season when my own side is even crappier
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CyberKev
 
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CK,
But your side has always had shit strip and deserve to lose.
Carna Saints on the other hand have always had a flash strip,but for some reason have started wearing something that your basic faggott would not be seen dead in.How they expect to win a game in the new colour is beyond me.Must think the opposition will not be able to concentrate to well cause they are to busy laughing.
 
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Bomber

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They.....
.....joined the national competition in 1995
.....have been reguarly taunted as being the bunnies of the competition
.....have set standards for medioricity during their short tenure
.....sacked a coach in 2001, installed a puppet and soon replaced him the next season with a respected, analytical coach
.....have since turned the corner and won four out of their last five games
.....are set to qualify for the finals for the first time in 2003

The Fremantle Dockers? No.....the North Queensland Cowboys!!!!!

Seriously though, good on the Dockas for notching up four-in-a-row.....I'm seriously considering not buying the Australian today lest there be a whole page of Matt Price's verbal diatribe. Fremantle are fourth on the table.....bloody hell!

Seriously though, with clowns like McGuire around, anything can happen - the Collywobbles will not wear an alternate strip for their game against Port Power this weekend, with the clown himself saying something along the lines of 'Port have been in the comp for three minutes, and we're talking about one of the biggest clubs (C'wood) in the country here!'

Some points here:

1. Complete lack of respect for the traditions of Port, from the very public face of AFL on Ch.9 no less
2. All AFL clubs must have a home, away and alternate strip for 2004 (WHY????)

Already we have seen some shocking strips, with the Carnas leading the way. Why tempt fate and introduce some more strips (one can't help but think of the 'experiment involving gorillas, bourbon and paint' quote).


 

Gav-bt

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Kev, I stumbled upon a site a few weeks - Toffs.com - back that specialises in replica football shirts from yesteryear. This is their Liverpool 1920's shirt:-
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CyberKev

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GavBT

That's not a good look, so let's hope the Pool doesn't decide to revisit that strip anytime soon. One can but hope that 1920 was a better season for the club than 2002-2003 was!

Lord Ted

While we're on the subject of playing strips, I'd only too happily put the hawks in jockey silks if I thought it could turn their on-field fortunes around. Oh, hang-on, we already did that in 1998... And no, it didn't work
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Bomber

I suppose the Dockers would want to be going well given all the assistance and good draft picks they've got over the years, but I won't begrudge them a finals berth.

As for McGuire, would you honestly expect anything else from a Collingwood tool? No club in the history of elite professional sport has had a more grossly inflated sense of its own self worth than the Magpies.


 

Gav-bt

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Kev, I quite like that old Pool top.

What McGuire fails to mention is the alternate Collingwood guernseys of the past few years. OK, they were black and white, but not always the so-called 'traditional' regular stripes.

If, as Mark Williams pointed out, clubs use different coloured topsfor training, why not for real games....
 

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