OT: American footy thread

[T-Boon]

One way to settle this is to pick a team. Who is the first player you pick? All time? And you use school rules - you miss a pick and then it's likely the other team will grab him.

So NFL - whose is your first pick? Is it Brady, Manning? Or someone in another position?

I'd scoop up the best player, so I'd go Jerry Rice because then if you went Tom Brady I'd go DE Lawrence Taylor knowing you don't need another QB so you can choose the second best non QB player ever who ever that was (Jim Brown running back), so the next best QB is still left so I'd pick Joe Montana.
Good game.

 

[Parra]

I'd scope up the best player, so I'd go Jerry Rice because then if you went Tom Brady I'd go DE Lawrence Taylor knowing you don't need another QB so you can chose the second best non QB player ever who ever that was (Jim Brown running back), so the next best QB is still left so I'd pick Joe Montana.
Good game.

I'm taking LT first pick. Whatever QB you choose is in trouble, so I can take second or third pick there. Then I'm taking Deion Sanders. Montana would definitely be good to have.

 

[T-Boon]

I'm taking LT first pick. Whatever QB you choose is in trouble, so I can take second or third pick there. Then I'm taking Deion Sanders. Montana would definitely be good to have.

I just looked it up to make an argument but I say Joe Montana is better than Tom Brady because Joe Montana led Notre Dame to a National Championship as starting QB while Tom Brady did not, he was a back up in 1997 when Michigan won a NC, then when Brady took over as the starting QB at Michigan they went backwards slightly.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

One way to settle this is to pick a team. Who is the first player you pick? All time? And you use school rules - you miss a pick and then it's likely the other team will grab him.

So NFL - whose is your first pick? Is it Brady, Manning? Or someone in another position?

What rules are you playing? Today's rules? Yeh you go a QB. Old time, you go a RB like Brown or Walter Payton.

 

[Kornstar]

What rules are you playing? Today's rules? Yeh you go a QB. Old time, you go a RB like Brown or Walter Payton.

And therein lies the problem of comparing.

To me it is pointless and there is enough hype to go along with more than just one that is the absolute best.

 

[Parra]

What rules are you playing? Today's rules? Yeh you go a QB. Old time, you go a RB like Brown or Walter Payton.

Any rules. Versatile players will adapt.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Any rules. Versatile players will adapt.

They can adapt all they like, but it doesn't change the fact that different positions become more or less important under different rules. You used to be able to smash the living shit out of receivers and quarterbacks with little consequence. If you are playing under those rules, you pick Jim Brown, and hope you next pick the best run-blocking offensive line you can scoop.

 

[Parra]

They can adapt all they like, but it doesn't change the fact that different positions become more or less important under different rules. You used to be able to smash the living shit out of receivers and quarterbacks with little consequence. If you are playing under those rules, you pick Jim Brown, and hope you next pick the best run-blocking offensive line you can scoop.

Yes rules and tactics change - so do the players. Jim Brown would adapt. So would LT, so would Tom Brady. Maybe some of the big lugs don't get that choice - but they are always needed somewhere.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Yes rules and tactics change - so do the players. Jim Brown would adapt. So would LT, so would Tom Brady. Maybe some of the big lugs don't get that choice - but they are always needed somewhere.

Yeh but your question was 'which player would you pick first?'. And while players would do their best to adapt, the importance of each position changes massively over time. Under today's rules, you pick Brady. Back in the day you wouldn't, but that's no knock on Brady.

 

[Parra]

Yeh but your question was 'which player would you pick first?'. And while players would do their best to adapt, the importance of each position changes massively over time. Under today's rules, you pick Brady. Back in the day you wouldn't, but that's no knock on Brady.

I wouldn't pick Brady first. Under todays rules. Brady never played against LT, nor did most QB's.
Hardly matters.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I wouldn't pick Brady first. Under todays rules. Brady never played against LT, nor did most QB's.
Hardly matters.

Yep, and Taylor never played under today's rules. Today's game is made for the best decision-makers and that's what Brady is. I don't personally like him (or his head coach), but FFS, he has has achieved a lot with a whole bunch of different players around him and in his defensive line-up.

 

[Parra]

No doubt Brady's biggest strength is making the right decision. When it matters. Over and over.

I'd love to have seen Rodgers play in the Pats lineup with Pats coaches as well.


I'm not anti-Brady by any stretch.

 

[Big Marn]

Any rules. Versatile players will adapt.

so if its any rules, if i just pick the whole 85 Bears team based on what they could get away with on defence in 1985 would your BEST team made up of individual players be able to beat me?
(assuming the loss to Dolphins was an anomaly and Bears play to their optimum when they play your team)

 

[jk13]

Wilson may not play again beyond this year....

 

[Kornstar]

Wilson may not play again beyond this year....View attachment 28039

This free agency has already been bonkers and it isn't even official yet until 4pm (their time) tomorrow.

 

[jk13]

Yeah, luv it. If only nrl was big enough to do the same and then follow up with a draft

 

[T.S Quint]

Wilson may not play again beyond this year....View attachment 28039

As much as I would love to get Bosa, I just don’t see the Cards passing on him.
I am very happy to have gotten Ford. Seemingly paid too much for Alexander, but he will improve the team.

 

[jk13]

Rumours r they might go Murray at qb for no.1, crazy times

 

[T.S Quint]

Rumours r they might go Murray at qb for no.1, crazy times

I hope so.
They do need a QB but surely there ain’t one worth picking that high. Maybe they will trade down, still get Murray and another team desperate for a pass rusher (Raiders maybe) could swoop in and take Bosa.

 

[jk13]

Either way we are in the box seat - bosa, Williams or trade down, all options have positive outcomes. Maybe nrl players would behave more in the offseason if they could be placed on the trade block or were looking at free agency, too much spare time is the devils work...