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Aussie appoints new Captain/s

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A host of former Wallaby rugby skippers disagree with test coach John Connolly's decision to buck tradition and appoint two co-captains.

Andrew Slack, Mark Ella and Tim Horan have all expressed major doubts about Connolly's call to choose Stirling Mortlock and Phil Waugh as joint leaders.
The trio of greats believe sharing the critical role for the start of the international season will create on-field confusion for the players.
Connolly and his fellow test selectors made the left-field decision after failing to guarantee long-term skipper George Gregan an automatic start at halfback.
Horan, who also captained Queensland under Connolly, had no problems with overlooking Gregan, who is in a battle with Matt Giteau to keep his No 9 jersey but was concerned about the direction of the side.
"I don't agree with co-captains but it's the best time to make a change in the captaincy sense because the captain should be one of the first players picked," he said.
"You don't know who to turn to. I agree with different leaders in the team. When we won the World Cup in 1999 we had six or seven leaders in the team.
"I think you need one decision maker and probably three sergeants.
"I think you need that leader to be in control."
Ella, who led Australia for 10 tests from 1982-84, said a sole captain needed to be appointed in time for the Tri-Nations, staring on June 16 against South Africa.
"I'm not crazy about co-captains," he said.
"I'd prefer everyone knew who the captain is. By appointing two captains, I'm not sure if the coach knows who will be in the team and he's having a bet each way."
Ella doubted the two tests against Wales and one against Fiji over the next three weeks would give a proper gauge of Mortlock and Waugh's leadership abilities.
"Only under extreme pressure and adversity true leaders come through," he said.
While dumped Wallabies hooker Jeremy Paul has cautioned against instability without Gregan at the helm, Slack said he was confident the Wallabies could stay tight.
But the 1984 Grand Slam-winning skipper feared two captains would complicate and confuse matters.
"It will take some doing to get it to work, it's not going to be simple," he said.
"But if you're ever going to have an ex-captain in your team then George Gregan would be the man as he would do his upmost to ensure the co-captains know they have his support.
"He's such a good bloke in the team environment and he knows what his role is.
"He's in control of his ego and he knows he can still contribute." Gregan's predecessor, John Eales, preferred not to comment but had endorsed the 127-test veteran as Australia's best halfback and leader midway through the Super 14.

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Twizzle

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yeah, I agree

good move

no point in appointing Gregan if he isn't assured of playing
 

skeepe

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The point is, Gregan should be assured of playing. He's easily Australia's (if not the world's) best scrum half and is in close to career-best form! He's also the longest serving captain and quite simply to not assure him of a starting berth is Connolly pandering to the Gestapo Sydney media bullsh*t.

Connolly will NOT be the coach to lead Australia to any sort of victory. Let's take a look at some of the boneheaded selection decisions so far:

* Matt Dunning, the worst prop in world rugby, cannot scrummage to save his life, included ahead of Nic Henderson, a man who along with Guy Sheperdson dominated the majority of packs they came up against this season.

* Jeremy Paul, widely considered by both NZ and SA experts to have been the best hooker in the entire Super 14 this season, omitted from the squad completely.

* George Gregan, arguably the best scrum-half in the world, being shunned for an inside centre to play out of position.

* Phil Waugh being appointed one of the captains, yet will start from the bench. Good move you idiot.

* A general pandering to the Gestapo Sydney-based media that have, for some bewildering reason, been out to considerably weaken the Australian team by pushing NSW players who are nowhere near good enough for the test arena ahead of those who are playing extremely well and deserve their chance.

Connolly is not the man to lead Australia, and he should step down with immediate effect. Eddie Jones should then be installed as Australian coach. We will be dominated in the forwards if Matt Dunning and Al Baxter are included in the front row, it's that simple. Our scrum will be a laughing stock.

Oh and the reason for Matt Dunning being included? He's "made a great comeback". bullsh*t he has. He's overweight, has no skills and is a general waste of skin.
 

lockyno1

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Our backline would be a laughing stock if Gregan is at9..he passes the ball SO SLOWLY! Our strengths are in our centres/wingers/fullbacks, not in our pack..so get the ball out quickly to the outside backs and lets see what can happen. Frankly Coordingly/Giteau are probally the two quickest passes of the ball and should be favourites if this is the game plan.
 

skeepe

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Face facts locky, a team with Gregan at half won more games than any other Australian team with anyone at half. Gregan performed very well, and the backs looked dangerous for most of the season. Gregan is the man to lead us to World Cup glory. Anyone else at scrum half and we may as well withdraw from the tournament now.
 

lockyno1

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I do not want Gregan at half for the pure reason that with him at half..the outside backs would be lucky and I mean lucky to see the ball 5 times a game. And blind freddy could tell me that the outside backs are where our big strength is..not our forwards. Therefore we need someone who has a quick, flat pass from 9. Honestly I have no dramas having Gregan on the bench for insurance reasons, but I would start with either Coordingly/Giteau.
 

skeepe

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lockyno1 said:
I do not want Gregan at half for the pure reason that with him at half..the outside backs would be lucky and I mean lucky to see the ball 5 times a game. And blind freddy could tell me that the outside backs are where our big strength is..not our forwards. Therefore we need someone who has a quick, flat pass from 9. Honestly I have no dramas having Gregan on the bench for insurance reasons, but I would start with either Coordingly/Giteau.

Have you watched any Brumbies matches? The backs tend to see the ball a lot more for the Brumbies than for the other Australian provinces ffs!

Watch the matches before commenting, you embarrass yourself.
 

lockyno1

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Um yes I watch the matches, and I have watched SOME Brumbies matches, not all of them as all our sides were rubbish at stages. But the main problem I have with Gregan is his slowness of his pass. I also believe that Coordingly/Giteau have superior kicking games as well. We need someone at 9, that throws a quick, hard, flat pass quickly out to the backs. Gregan does not really do that. he ilikes to take a skip step and then pass. That is why you put him on the bench.
 
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