Australia's worst captain of the last 25 years?

[Tommy Smith]

Who's your pick?

Greg 'underarm' Chappell,
Kim 'crybaby' Hughes, or
Ricky 'we'll have a bowl at Edgbaston and set you 490 odd at Perth' Ponting

 

[gregstar]

which captain has never made a wrong decision?

good to know that you're omniscient tommy.

 

[Follow Me Up To Carlton]

Ch 9 keep wanking on about Pointngs "great cricket brain", give me a break.

490 what a joke.

 

[UndertakerMike]

What target would you of set?

 

[Timbo]

We didn't need a seven billion run lead.

Pontings deficiencies were shown in England and they're repeating here.

Time for someone else to step in.

 

[gregstar]

i seem to recall ponting captaining the team very well in sri lanka in very tight situations.

ease up oh precious pettles.

 

[Tommy Smith]

Ponting? I think you mean Lehmann.

 

[Pensacola Q.C]

Ponting has a pea-sized cricket brain. Why you would set the Proteas 500 odd in 4 sessions is beyond me. Another hour could have made the difference. Didn't Dravid declare when Tendulkar was on 196 n.o? What a goose Ponting is. It's not just Edgbaston and Perth though. His powerful side has covered up some bad mistakes in both forms of the game. Not saying we would have won today but I think an extra 15 - 20 overs could definately have made the difference. Some bad mistakes in the field too...what with 2 men out for the hook when Kemp hadn't played one in the air the whole innings and sacrificing a short leg which would have swallowed one when Kemp was on about 30.

What a nuffy Ponting is! Who would take over though?

 

[gregstar]

fair dinkum! get over it!

4 sessions is usually enough to bowl a team out. however every now & then a team holds on for a draw.

big f*cking deal!

 

[UndertakerMike]

Ponting's One day record is unrivelled. Thats gotta say something.

 

[wittyfan]

Kim Hughes was useless.

 

[Timbo]

The fact is they've systematically done away with all of the other good solid cricketing brains in the side-Lehmann, Martyn, Katich. This leaves Ricky to fend for himself, and he's being caught out of his depth.

 

[Pensacola Q.C]

fair dinkum! get over it!

4 sessions is usually enough to bowl a team out. however every now & then a team holds on for a draw.

big f*cking deal!

4 sessions, yep fine if the lead is 400 or a bit over. There's a bit of a carrot to the opposition but with virtually no serious chance of winning. But waiting that long was the wrong call period. I mean 200 runs difference! Did they really need to wait until tea with a roughened pitch and the worlds two best bowlers (1 being Warne) as well as the fastest?

The stakes are high. There's no way Tubby or even Tugger would have waited that long.

 

[Alan Shore]

The only reason Ponting was successful early was because Lehmann did all the work and Ponting was the puppet. We won the India series when Gilchrist was leading and Lehmann was vice - time to find another captain.

 

[TheParraboy]

The stakes are high. There's no way Tubby or even Tugger would have waited that long.

yup have to agree, Im sure they would have declared earlier, though not sure how much earlier, and not sure if it would have made a difference, Would a declaration an hour earlier won it for Australia? Highly unlikely considering how the 4 sessions had panned out.

In way though, youd think with over 4 sessions and on the last day (pitch is supposed to be at its worst, and with Warne in the side) the aussies would get there, hindsight is a wonderfull thing when bagging the crap out of a captain. Had Ponting declared with a 400 run lead and SA won, he be dammed twice as much.

Well done to SA, instead of discrediting Ponting how about giving credit where credit was due. Not many teams could have held of Australia in this situation

 

[JJ]

Ponting can improve, but f**k he's abysmal... in fairness to Hughes, Ponting had a sook after England, imagine what would happen if he faced that Windies team.

The captaincy in the Pert test was the worst I've seen since... let's think.... THE ASHES :lol: :lol:

I guess it could be worse, they could make Lee captain :lol:

 

[Twizzle]

I think alot of skippers would have done the same thing, its a big decision to make, either let Hodge get his 200 or declare at 180

I would have thought 4 sessions and with the detiorating wicket and Warnie, we should have won. I didn't see the last session, but I couldn't see much wrong with what Punter did for the first two sessions, I thought his field placings were faily aggressive.

Rather than blame punter, I would have thought more people should be giving credit to the determination shown by the RSA defence, I thought they defended rather well

However, true to form, most cycnics have to make it all about Australia.

 

[fish eel]

Answer - none of the above!

My vote goes to Graham Yallop.

Did Ponting bat to long? Maybe, isnt hindsight wonderful.

But the bottom line is we had plenty of time to win the game. We bowled 126 overs to them. How many more overs did we need to win?

 

[JJ]

I think alot of skippers would have done the same thing, its a big decision to make, either let Hodge get his 200 or declare at 180

That should not be a difficult decision - and Ponting has made arrogant and obnoxious comments in that regard before, but when push came to shove he didn't have the balls to do it, and chose to put Hodge first - no way did Aust need a lead of 500.

I agree with fish eel, Yallop may well beat Ponting

 

[fish eel]

That should not be a difficult decision - and Ponting has made arrogant and obnoxious comments in that regard before, but when push came to shove he didn't have the balls to do it, and chose to put Hodge first - no way did Aust need a lead of 500.

yeah, but should we have needed more than 120 overs?