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Biggest Ballsup in Wrestling History

IanG

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In my view it would have to be in WCW with their introduction of the Cruiserweight Tag-Team Championship. What on Earth possessed them to go and create a new Title when they knew they were going out of business.

What's everyone elses views on what's teh biggest ballsup in Wrestling?
 

Mr Saab

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biggest mistake i saw was las resistance power bombing spike dudley onto a table outside the ring. Spike missed the table and smashed his head on the edge of the table...damn it looked painful! and it was. They had to do the move again.

other balls up...
* Bischoff scrapping the tag diivision on WCW
* WCW hiring Vince Russo
* WWE having Kane take off his mask to reveal a bad haircut and bad charcoal painted face
 

Big Pete

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The Cruiser tag division wasn't a bad idea IanG. Better then a 600+ilbs tag team title. :p

Biggest mistake was pushing Brock too early and giving him a massive ego.
 

Once Dead

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Austin was nothing until they gave him the gimmick that made him.......WCW letting go of him was probably a good idea because he had nothing back then.....all he had was a bad knee and a career highlight of a 40 second loss to Hacksaw Jim Duggan
 

Misanthrope

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Austin was nothing until they gave him the gimmick that made him.......WCW letting go of him was probably a good idea because he had nothing back then.....all he had was a bad knee and a career highlight of a 40 second loss to Hacksaw Jim Duggan

That's a pretty uneducated call. He and Brian Pillman as the Hollywood Blondes made the tag division.
 

Misanthrope

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assume your refering to his tragic accident rather than the guy himself.

I'd assume as much, myself. Lowering him into the arena may have been a parody of Sting's WCW entrance, but it was just an unnecessary risk on a talented performer.
 

Mr Saab

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chriswalkerbush said:
That's a pretty uneducated call. He and Brian Pillman as the Hollywood Blondes made the tag division.

thats true, but he had alot of knee injuries and had a falling out with Bischoff. At the time they had no direction for him. This was the era where the "attitude" aspect of wrestling was not even thought of. Credit to the WWF for being able to use him (understatement) but i dont think WCW stuffed up tooooo bad.
 

Misanthrope

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thats true, but he had alot of knee injuries and had a falling out with Bischoff. At the time they had no direction for him. This was the era where the "attitude" aspect of wrestling was not even thought of. Credit to the WWF for being able to use him (understatement) but i dont think WCW stuffed up tooooo bad.

In hindsight, though, look at some of the guys WCW released:
- Stone Cold: Essentially won the Monday Night Wars for WWE
- Mick Foley: Became a legend in ECW/WWE
- The Radicals: All excellent wrestlers who contributed to WWE (Perry Saturn least of all)
- Chris Jericho: Was a superstar in next to no time
- Big Show: Ditto

Then look at who they stole. You have guys like Hogan, Hall, and Nash who are widely blamed for much of WCW's downfall (particularly Hogan's backstage politics and Nash's poor booking).
 

Raider_69

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The biggest f**k up in Wrestling was WCW. Hope on earth they let go geniune superstars like Jericho, Beniot, Austin etc.
IF their booking and writing teams at the time had half the talent the WWF (as it was known then) had they would have easily won the war
 

canberra_raiders2k2

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David Arquette wining the dam Heavy Weight Championship...that was utter crap..

Vince Russo was the man who destroyed the WCW, Eric had it all setup and was taking down Vince McMahon and then Russo took over..pathetic..lol
 

Misanthrope

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Actually, to be accurate, Bischoff started the downhill when he let NWO get out of control. Russo was hired after Bischoff's booking had become too big a problem, but he only hastened WCW's demise. If Bischoff had stayed on in place of Russo, the WCW may have lasted a little longer.
 

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chriswalkerbush said:
Actually, to be accurate, Bischoff started the downhill when he let NWO get out of control. Russo was hired after Bischoff's booking had become too big a problem, but he only hastened WCW's demise. If Bischoff had stayed on in place of Russo, the WCW may have lasted a little longer.

Actually, to be 100% accurate, the WWE beat WCW more than WCW beat itself. Vince McMahon started creating fresh talented wrestlers/entertainers and evolved the product unbelievably. The introduction of guys like the Rock, Foley, Stone Cold, Undertaker, McMahon himeself as the ultimate heel, scantily clad women, catchphrases everywhere etc. When WCW went out of business they were actually getting ratings and pay perviews which are pretty much about what WWE is getting now. It is just that WWE was so good and getting such awesome ratings due to their own good show that WCW couldnt compete and once Russo took over and tried to copy it only got worse, but even at it lowest it was still better (ratings/ppv wise) than the best ever ecw versions. However, with the wwe growing stronger and getting better each day, Ted Turner eventually pulled the pin when sold out (or whatever went) his interest in some TV Channels. History shows us that WWE had pretty much peaked at this time and run out of ideas to improve their show, as they slowly dwindled away to where they are now. Unfortunately there was no WCW to pick up the lost supporters, so most have simply turned away all together.
 

Misanthrope

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Actually, to be 100% accurate, the WWE beat WCW more than WCW beat itself. Vince McMahon started creating fresh talented wrestlers/entertainers and evolved the product unbelievably.

Now you're generalising. For a start, a lot of the 'attitude' era can be attributed to things 'borrowed' from the ECW brand (particularly the more extreme matches and anti-authority characters).

The introduction of guys like the Rock, Foley, Stone Cold, Undertaker, McMahon himeself as the ultimate heel, scantily clad women, catchphrases everywhere etc.

Two of those were sacked by WCW. Then you consider that WCW still had big name drawcards like Goldberg, Sting, Ric Flair, Kevin Nash, and Hulk Hogan floating around. The WCW killed itself by pushing these talents ahead of guys like Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, and Chris Benoit.

History shows us that WWE had pretty much peaked at this time and run out of ideas to improve their show, as they slowly dwindled away to where they are now. Unfortunately there was no WCW to pick up the lost supporters, so most have simply turned away all together.

That I can agree on. If only NWA:TNA were a little more powerful, it'd make things really interesting.
 

Once Dead

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chriswalkerbush said:
In hindsight, though, look at some of the guys WCW released:
- Stone Cold: Essentially won the Monday Night Wars for WWE
- Mick Foley: Became a legend in ECW/WWE
- The Radicals: All excellent wrestlers who contributed to WWE (Perry Saturn least of all)
- Chris Jericho: Was a superstar in next to no time
- Big Show: Ditto

Then look at who they stole. You have guys like Hogan, Hall, and Nash who are widely blamed for much of WCW's downfall (particularly Hogan's backstage politics and Nash's poor booking).

Austin would not have been the wrestler he was in WCW without the WWF gimmick.....so its all good in hindsight to say he was in the tag division and making inroads, but he would NEVER have made the same impact without the WWF gimmick

Mick Foley obviously didn't fit the format of WCW.....neither did Sabu, and he's a legendary wrestler in the hardcore realm....but Sabu never made it.....i guess its the luck of the draw or certain chair shots or jumps that you take that make you so legendary

The Radicals? Sheesh, you're stretching it there.......Saturn was used worse in the WWF than he was in WCW....didn't they make him talk to a mop for his gimmick? Eddy Gurrerro will always be a star wherever he goes but was only destined to be a cruiserweight in WCW because he simply wrestled too much in that div........same for Jericho but even i'd argue that he was taken more seriously in WCW and his character had more of an edge - now, with his contract negotiations on the line it sounds as if Fozzy is a better career option for him

Benoit = great wrestler and won the WCW title.....but that was only a token win because of the glass ceiling in the organisation......NEVER can work with a gimmick.....is a straight up wrestler............Oh and what about Malenko? The only thing the WWF did for this guy was drive him to an early retirement - he was better off in WCW

Big Show? You have got to be kidding me.......WCW got rid of him because he was as done as last nights dinner......seriously, he was smoking cigarettes for a gimmick - that's how much his status as 'The Giant' was nothing anymore......The Big Show is a below par wrestler and in the WWF has been nothing but an upper market version of all the other tall meatheads that Vince McMahon thinks are great for wrestling

LOL "stole"........yeah, contract negotiations are stealing right? So you stole Meng from WCW did you? Hhahahhahahahaha classic........3 of the greatest signings in wrestling history that changed the face of wrestling forever will be Hogan, Nash and Hall...........the WWF will NEVER have something like the nWo......NEVER....it was a revolutionary idea and cannot be duplicated nor done in any other way.....the nWo set the wrestling world on fire......now, the WWF only smoulders without any good ideas that would do the same....
 

Once Dead

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Charlie Saab said:
thats true, but he had alot of knee injuries and had a falling out with Bischoff. At the time they had no direction for him. This was the era where the "attitude" aspect of wrestling was not even thought of. Credit to the WWF for being able to use him (understatement) but i dont think WCW stuffed up tooooo bad.

Sanity prevails, nice post!
 

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Owen Hart



IanG said:
I assume your refering to his tragic accident rather than the guy himself.

The show must go on attitude of the promoters after this tragedy would have to rate as one of the biggest balls-ups in the history of entertainment.
 
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