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Bird a scapegoat, says Rogers

wittyfan

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Bird a scapegoat, says Rogers
By Brad Walter
April 8, 2004

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Cronulla chief executive Steve Rogers last night accused the NRL judiciary of using Greg Bird as a scapegoat after the Sharks five-eighth was suspended for 10 matches.

In a brief but emotive hearing lasting less than an hour at NRL headquarters, the Sharks admitted that 20-year-old Bird's kneeing the face of South Sydney winger Shane Marteene last Saturday night was "an act of stupidity", but they claimed he had been severely provoked.

Video footage showing Marteene mouthing off at Bird in the lead-up to the 67th minute and then appearing to knee him in the groin was accepted as evidence by judiciary chairman Greg Woods.

The three-man panel of Mark Coyne, Ian Roberts and Royce Ayliffe also heard that Bird had apologised several times this week to Marteene and his club, but the 2003 Junior Kangaroos captain's contrition held little weight with the former players.

After just five minutes of deliberation, Coyne, Roberts and Ayliffe imposed a suspension equating to a grade 11 striking charge - one of the heaviest bans handed down in the seven-year history of the NRL.

Bird, who repeatedly looked away from the television screen when the moment of impact was replayed, was not called on to testify at the hearing and declined to comment afterwards, but Rogers said the player was "shattered" by the decision.

"He's obviously been made an example of, which is disappointing under the circumstances," Rogers said.

"We didn't come here tonight in an effort to discredit the seriousness of what has taken place, but given the case that was put forward on Greg's behalf I am a little surprised at the harshness of the penalty.

"We put some submissions forward that I thought had merit. Obviously there wasn't much consideration given to Greg's youth and Greg's record which is fairly impressive."

Earlier, Bird's legal counsel, Jim Barnett, had told the hearing that the former schoolboy representative's actions had been "a brain snap, a moment of madness, an act of stupidity so out of character for a young man with skills who people in the know have made [a future] captain".

Cronulla coach Stuart Raper this week admitted his side had a discipline problem, and Barnett - the club's vice-president - said that there had been a lot of niggle in the game before Bird's dismissal by referee Tony Archer.

"When Mr Marteene was running in he was saying things," Barnett said. "He delivered a knee to the groin. I'm not excusing his [Bird's] actions. He did a very silly thing. [But] a lot more senior players showed a lack of discipline."

Barnett said Bird had taken upon himself to phone Marteene on Monday, and the two players spoke yesterday at a NRL coaching clinic at Telstra Stadium.

He had also written a letter of apology to Souths.

"This is an incident he very deeply regrets," said Barnett, who suggested a suspension of four to five matches was appropriate.

NRL judiciary prosecutor Peter Kite noted that Marteene had not been injured, but he recommended Bird be banned for eight to 10 games to provide a deterrent to other players.

Woods, however, advised Coyne, Roberts and Ayliffe not to "regard this as an opportunity to put the slipper in because of other events in rugby league".

Asked afterwards if he thought the panel had ignored Woods's instructions, Rogers said: "I can't answer that. Basically we were happy with the hearing that took place, but we're extremely disappointed with the final result."

Bird had been charged with striking, but was not ascribed a grading and no explanation was given after the hearing.

After adding a 20 per cent loading for a high-tackle charge last season and deducting 25 per cent for pleading guilty, the panel announced that the offence was worth 1012 demerit points.

"Greg's shattered," Rogers said. "He has shown genuine remorse and contrition from day one. If this was something that was inherent or a regular feature in his game I could understand the harshness of his penalty but this was a brain explosion. There was a hell of a lot of frustration in the game on the weekend and Greg got caught up in that with what we class as provocation and reacted in a split second with a rash action and he has paid the ultimate price."

Rogers said it was unlikely the Sharks would lodge an appeal.

Source: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/04/07/1081326802345.html
 

millersnose

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perhaps he would of fared better if he lost the suit and wore a "we play dirty" T-shirt

but honestly what did rogers expect??

1 week???
 

blacktip-reefy

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I don't know what happened to my last post. I'll say it again

nyway, onto the real issue.
1) The Sharks presented evidence that was admitted to the committee for Marteene lifting the knee into the groin of Bird in that same tackle.
There is no ifs or buts about what he did. He lifted the knee going into the tackle & drove it into the groin of Bird. If Stevo did what marteene did he would be out for 6-8 weeks for "lifting the knees in the tackle".
Nobody denied this as a fact. Nobody will review it etc etc.
How the f**k does that work?????? Why didn't the Sharks complain to the NRL about this as a seperate incedent rather than using it as a defense. Souths are a direct competitor for us on ladder postions & we can't do them any favours.

2) When is that disgusting slime Ian Roberts going to be removed from the judiciary jury panel? you might think I call him a slime for the things I've seen him doing at night clubs, but thats not the case. I call him a slime for the vicous onfield assault he was convicted of against Gary Jack. if ever there was a hypocryte, there he is.
Sort of like an ex-peadophile becoming a judge & sitting on child abuse cases in the real legal system. In the real world Roberts would not be allowed to sit on any jury? One for you OO, I'm not sure on that.
Now, big Ian, is trying to become a moovviie star. Utilising his handsome face. I wonder which Eastern Suburbs media identities he will be smooching with to try & get starts(in movies oc course, I know he's happily partnered to Shane) or will he be Souths & manly through & through. I guess we will wait & see.

3) Coyne? Where did he pop up from. Sharks are never going to get any favours from him.

4) Royce Ayliff. Roosters through & through.

5) This panel of three ignored the prosecution & the panel & came up with their own penalty outside the framework, where is the appeal?
 

troy

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For Christ sake the guy got up in 5 minutes......it was half a knee and he farging deserved it .
 

PeacheyPower

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I think the problem is in the time following that game against the Eels we've been stereotyped as "the dirty club". So what ever suspension get's handed down,you know it's been tripled from what it would have been for other clubs.

Souths are sterotyped as the strugglers,the club everyone should feel sorry for. The little battlers,just scraping by and doing what they can to make it in this world. So they get forgiven for taking shots at another guys pills. I mean,come on,give them a break guys,their just trying to get a leg up (so to speak) and put themselves on an even playing field with the rest of us.

Thank you NRL judiciary,another fine decision :roll:
 
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And to top it off - Webb from the rorters gets 3 weeks for knocking out 4 teeth belonging to Luke Swain as well as fracturing his jaw ffs :roll:

Worse still, is the pommy thug gets 1 week and he is to football thuggery as Milat is to a hitchikers health!!! I think we should nickname him 'Days of Our Lives' the longest running serial. :lol:
 

shadowboxer

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When they asked Morley the question of Birds sentence on Nova 9.69 this morning all he said was

"suck eggs"

sorry i tell a lie

he said

"extremely harsh"
 

eddo

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What a load of one eyed whinging :(
birdy did a v.stupid thing & he deserves everything he got. :clap: :clap:
 
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Can you believe that Greg Bird's mum's name is Iris Bird?

I was gonna say "what sort of a name is Bird anyway" even before I knew that!
 

imasharkie

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From Barry Dick column in Courier Mail:
Which of these players would rugby league be better off without a) Greg Bird b) John Hopoate c) Adrian Morley.
Answer: my money would be on b or c because they are repeat offenders who will not, or cannot, learn from their mistakes.
Barry Dick goes on to say a lot more but the whole crux of his story is Hopoate is a professional stirrer and Morley is a serial offender with his weekly high shots. Good story and can be found in Thursdays Courier Mail if anyone is interested.
 

dimitri

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when you are in front of a judiciary or court or tribunal or whatever

it is the incident that is judged not the person

the person (eg past actions) only comes into it when sentencing is handed down


greg birds action
(incident) was disgusting and deserved 10 weeks

however if he had the history of perhaps hoppa he should have got 20
 
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blacktip-reefy said:
Apparently his aunties name is Lyre & she is always copping a mocking.

Birdy's old man's is Dollar Bird, his aunty Gibber Bird. Rebecca Wilson changed her name by deed pool from Noisy Scrub Bird. All I say is give the poor bustards a go, you Spangled Drongos!
 

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