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Brent Read: Aus v Tonga to go ahead, Aus taking paycut

Matua

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Source is Triple M: https://www.triplem.com.au/sport/nr...cial-sacrifice-for-tongan-fixture-to-go-ahead

Brent Read states that Todd Greenberg told the NZRL executive to fly to Sydney, they did, and said the NRL/Australia want the game to happen. NZRL have backed off in their opposition.

Australian players will receive less than $5,000 for the match instead of $20,000.
If they wanted to play the game so much why didn't they organise a venue in Australia?

Why pretend this was all 'NZRL''s fault when multiple venues have been floated and one of the countries involved has bucket loads of grounds that could be used?
 

roughyedspud

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Could the NZRL look any weaker though lol

The NZRL could have taken the lead on this,they could have been the pacific islands partner,helping them arrange & host test matches,helping them put some much needed money in the pacific nations bank accounts as well as taking a cut themselves cos the NZRL are skint as f**k...
 
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Burns

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Agreed with Spud.

The egg on face of the NZRL is immense. They had no risk in assisting staging the game and could have rode the goodwill in making some sort of ‘we will have Tonga v NZ’ next year’ announcement.

The NRL/Brad Walter article comes across as defensive and harking on about the $1 million dollar cost of staging the match. Seems ridiculous tbh.
 

siv

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Sounds like there was a threat made about the Australia v NZ test funding, NRL paying NZ players or funds given to NZ around the Warriors inclusion in the NRL

Anyway sounds like there was a APRLF meeting of sorts where they actually pulled rank
 

Vee

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Agreed with Spud.

The egg on face of the NZRL is immense. They had no risk in assisting staging the game and could have rode the goodwill in making some sort of ‘we will have Tonga v NZ’ next year’ announcement.

The NRL/Brad Walter article comes across as defensive and harking on about the $1 million dollar cost of staging the match. Seems ridiculous tbh.
I thought it was a good explanation of the costs involved that most on here never consider when bagging the ARLC/NRL for their inaction. Good proactive article from NRL, should have done it months ago as "Matters to be Considered".
 

Matua

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Could the NZRL look any weaker though lol

The NZRL could have taken the lead on this,they could have been the pacific islands partner,helping them arrange & host test matches,helping them put some much needed money in the pacific nations bank accounts as well as taking a cut themselves cos the NZRL are skint as f**k...
I don't disagree they look weak, but are people really happy that the NRL is just dictating to the world what they want. The NRL are a scourge on the international game, the reason it is shit is primarily because of them. Yet, many posters seem happy to let them do it because the evil NZRL didn't want Tonga v Australia in their backyard.

Aus league needs to put it's money where its mouth is and actually stage some games in Oz, market them properly and get decent crowds. But all they care about is Origin.

Rant over.
 

roughyedspud

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Nah...I'm gonna keep blasting the NZRL..they had a chance to step out of the ARLC/NRL shadow and become a guiding figure to the pacific nations in helping them play more games...

But they shit out...and have now been bullied & belittled by the ARLC/NRL...they where ordered to Sydney and told to host...now get back on that f**king plane back to Auckland!.

Massive,massive fail by the dumb & gutless NZRL
 

Matua

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All right, each to their own, if you want to blast NZRL for not wanting to stage a game that doesn't include NZ teams and then have another body who actively suppresses international league tell them what to do then that's up to you. We'll just have agree to disagree.
 

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Let’s change discussion

Can Tonga win? Should they play a warm up game week prior to get some combinations? And most importantly, who plays in the halves?
 

undertaker

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If they wanted to play the game so much why didn't they organise a venue in Australia?

Exactly what I was thinking.

Why the persistency from Greenberg et al. to play the match in NZ, and all these other expensive ideas floated around in the media such as the teams travelling halfway across the other side of the world to play in New York....

The fact that the NZRL representative threw a dummy spit about the Australia vs Tonga match overshadowing the profile of the NZ vs Australia match, followed by Greenberg calling the NZRL representative over to Sydney like the disobedient school kid being ushered into the principal's office is amateur hour rubbish and a very embarrassing look for rugby league in general.

The NRL/ARLC have suppressed international RL for years all in the name of trying to protect State of Origin as the game's cash cow in Australia, and now it's very rich of Greenberg to see him getting on the high horse and demand that this Australia vs Tonga test match goes ahead, appearing like he's the good guy trying to improve the profile of test football.

I know it's been suggested in the articles that Australia was reluctant to host it due to costs of hiring out Suncorp Stadium etc. And obviously, the ARLC are not confident in hosting test matches in Sydney after the poor crowd attendances over the past decade or so there. So, why not play it in Newcastle? They'd easily get 25k+, which is more than Mt Smart Stadium's capacity. There's many other cities in Australia with venues that have 20-25k+ capacity that'd be suitable to host the test match.

The fact that the NZ vs Australia test is probably going to be at smaller stadiums such as Mt Smart instead of Eden Park shows how much RL has shrinked in NZ. But this has become so typical of international RL post-SL war that it no longer surprises me anymore: so much potential, yet always setting the bar low, consequently leading to little to no improvement. The list goes on and on, whether it is the NRL trying to protect Origin as the game's cash cow, the player's association in 2015 didn't want to play tests at the end of the year due to player burnout and so Australia only played a solitary test during that calendar year (if the dominant likes of those such as Cameron Smith, Thurston didn't want to play, fine, give other players who DO want to wear the Kangaroos jersey the opportunity to play test football, but to scrap the test altogether because of them represents everything that's wrong with this insular mindset that exists in the RL hierachy), nations outside of Australia/NZ/England given limited opportunities on the international stage despite promising performances, constant talks of reviving a modified version of the old Kangaroos tours/Ashes series....very frustrating, and an absolute mess.
 
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I imagine with Hingano out Samisoni Langi will come back in, been playing well in an improving Catalans team. Other options I suppose would be Hopoate, Katoa or Fainu move to the halves.

The Australian team will be just as interesting, unfortunately for Tonga they play against NZ the week prior. Australia's first tests without Smith, Cronk and Slater, while also missing Morgan and Gillett. Who goes in the halves out of Munster, Maloney, Cleary, Hunt and Cherry-Evans?
 

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1. Will Hopoate
2. David Fusitu'a
3. Solomone Kata
4. Konrad Hurrell/Mahe Fonua
5. Robert Jennings
6. Samisoni Langi
7. Tui Lolohea
8. Addin Fonua-Blake
9. Siliva Havili
10. Andrew Fifita
11. Tevita Pangai Jr
12. Sio Siua Taukeiaho
13. Jason Taumalolo

14. Sione Katoa
15. Joe Ofahengaue
16. Ben Murdoch-Masila
17. Agnatius Paasi/Peni Terepo
 

Perth Tiger

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Jeez, that pack would be the best in the world at the moment.

To bad they have the same problem as every other except Australia in that they don't have 2 NRL class halves, let alone international class halves.
 

yakstorm

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For Tonga to have any chance, they really need to organise a warm up match now.

If they were playing Australia cold, you would argue their chances of an upset may have been greater, but with the Roos likely to blow out any cobwebs against the Kiwis, it would be in Tonga's best interests to find someone to get build combinations against...even if it's just a local team (although would be great if we could get another Test out of it)
 

Pommy

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For Tonga to have any chance, they really need to organise a warm up match now.

If they were playing Australia cold, you would argue their chances of an upset may have been greater, but with the Roos likely to blow out any cobwebs against the Kiwis, it would be in Tonga's best interests to find someone to get build combinations against...even if it's just a local team (although would be great if we could get another Test out of it)


Seems like the ideal reason for Samoa to get a test
 

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