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Brett Geeves vs Darren Lehmann - the fall out

Pete Cash

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Hierarchies are pretty normal here. Im trying to be judgement free but isnt it going to be read that the Australian captain matters more to cricket australia than say joe blogs playing grade cricket

Obviously it would be dangerous indeed to suggest that one can only criticise Steve Smith if one is a better cricketer than he is but his point that FC cricketers give way to test cricketers is well a bit silly. Of course the australian test side are the elephants and cows walking around the road as if it was built for them because in a lot of ways thats literally the case

Obviously for coaching roles and media there should be no requirement that a guy has played test cricket. A good coach may not have been the greatest player. geeves opinion shouldnt be dismissed because he wasnt as good a cricketer as the australian coach.

So i think geeves both has a point but also a very obvious chip on his shoulder.
 

BunniesMan

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This all started with the possibility of dropping Renshaw. Anyone who suggests dropping Renshaw should be sacked immediately, whether they were test players or 4th graders.
 

betcats

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Great article. Lehmans attitude that he should only listen to better players than himself or players who played at the highest level is one of the most ridiculous things ive heard in sport.
 

Patorick

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Harbajhan Singh labelled the touring Australian team the worst to set foot on Indian soil. What he didn’t take into account was the leadership and individual brilliance of Steve Smith. This young man is just from another planet. And since taking over as captain, he has gone to a whole other level; which is tough to do when you are already one of the best players in the world.

Think back to the disaster of South Africa in Hobart. A loss by an innings and 80 runs with batting capitulations of 10 for 85 in the first innings and 8 for 30 in the second. The press conference that followed the embarrassment of this game saw the makings of Smith the leader. His honesty was powerful as he pleaded for fight; for pride; for resilience. He was angry, humiliated and hurt.

In this win, it is easy to look at the fact that Smith’s second innings 109 outscored India in both innings; that his individual performance will be remembered as potentially the best innings ever crafted by an Australian player. And while I agree, for me, it is his impact on the team since that ugly loss in Hobart that sticks out as his greatest achievement in this win.

This team has not looked back from that moment. The unexpected emotion from Smith in that press conference must have stung the Australian players hard as their response has been to stop losing. And that’s not something you can control with a click of the fingers. Winning isn’t as easy as just rolling up and being the most skilled team. It’s about the process of building training standards; building behavioural standards and allowing access to an environment where freedom is key: Freedom of mind; freedom of skill execution and most importantly, the freedom to be yourself without having to conform to a certain personality type.

You’ve not seen an outlay of dot points that go against any cricket team having a chance at winning a game, in any tour, across any generation, than the Australian team that won the first test. It is all of these things that make this win the greatest Australian victory I have ever seen, and potentially of all time.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...k=90b8625fffff079ad5a885540454219e-1488112395

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Go Brett, well wrote.
 

mozza91

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Agree with most of that. Smith is still a flat track bully though. Colin Munro on his worst day is an infinitely better bat than Smudger.
 

JJ

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Agree with most of that. Smith is still a flat track bully though. Colin Munro on his worst day is an infinitely better bat than Smudger.
Don't know of anyone who thinks Munro is a good international cricketer. Nice that he has a fan in Straya
 

mozza91

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Pune wasn't exactly a flat track
Not a flat deck? Ok we'll go with shitty attack then? Oh wait Ashwin and Jadeja.
He got dropped a few times right? That's never happened to Root or Williamson not even once. Smith is useless.
 

JJ

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Not a flat deck? Ok we'll go with shitty attack then? Oh wait Ashwin and Jadeja.
He got dropped a few times right? That's never happened to Root or Williamson not even once. Smith is useless.


Why do you have such a chip on your shoulder? Ahhh, Newcastle fan LOL

It was a great innings from Smith, has anyone said otherwise?

Although to be fair many here have endlessly dribbled on about how shit Aswhin and Jadeja are - actually that applies to anyone who's not Australian (with the exception of Wade and Lyon, and the Marshes)
 

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