Can someone please tell Channel 9 that AFL doesn't rate in QLD and NSW

[El Diablo]

why would you follow AFL if your team got dumped?

that would be like turning queer just because you asked out a chick and she said no

it's a sh*t sport. your team getting punted doesn't suddenly make it better

 

[kkingston]

kkingston the Swans average over 30,000 in sydney while league gets 15,000 for arguments sake. Now the Swans average 150,000 TV viewers whilst league averages 700,000. Now if you were an advertiser where would you put your dollar?

Im not saying it rates higher in sydney but it rates alot higher than nrl in victoria, WA, SA, tas

are u gunna throw ur money at something that rates in all states or sumthing that rates in just 2

 

[Slackboy72]

I think the AFL must be blessed by the gods. They are looked after by the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

No. They are blessed by good business sense. Why would you let your biggest customer dictate to you how much you sold your product for? That's what league has done and we're now twenty years behind AFL in development.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Im not saying it rates higher in sydney but it rates alot higher than nrl in victoria, WA, SA, tas

When is the NRL played in a decent time slot? The matches that have been shown show a lot of promise, it's just that Channel 9 doesn't give our sport an opportunity.

 

[El Diablo]

Im not saying it rates higher in sydney but it rates alot higher than nrl in victoria, WA, SA, tas

are u gunna throw ur money at something that rates in all states or sumthing that rates in just 2

we'll never know as 9 don't show it

what happened to your crowd sizes bs btw?

 

[The Tank]

are u gunna throw ur money at something that rates in all states or sumthing that rates in just 2

Well that rules out AFL as it doesn't rate in NSW/QLD (i.e. half the population).

 

[JW]

LOL kkingston, silly girl.

So the networks offer to pay larger sums of money for the right to show a TV product to TV viewers going by how large ground attendances are? How exactly are the people at the ground going to be exposed to advertiser's commercials and register ratings points? Believe it or not, the networks don't get paid via gate reciepts...

 

[meltiger]

The question Kurt is

A) Will the NRL ever have the balls to leave 9?

B) Can we ever hope to get our true value while networks scramble between themselves to pay overs for AFL

C) How the hell is their deal worth so much, and ours so little when 4 out of the top 5 shows in Australia were RL.

It beggars belief...and only strengthens my view that RL needs to flush out all of the vested interests in the game. That being Telstra, News and Fox

You've answered your own questions (B & C) with your comments at the end.

For as long as News have a say at board level, the NRL will never attract market worth for it's coverage.

Competition quite simply is what pushes the AFL rights higher.


It's be a positive for RL if C9 got it alone anyway. There'd be a LOT less AFL shown in the northern states.

 

[bobmar28]

Put the glasses down, as I will tell you now going by past history the NRL will do f*** a**.

So why don't we make it easier for AFL and get rid of more Sydney teams and make people even more pissed off with league that they will go and follow another sport. Remember Norths, I wonder what the 15,000 that use to watch them play at home are doing now?

If you are willing to switch codes simply because your team is merged then you were not a league fan to begin with.

 

[bobmar28]

Foxtel is the one the NRL should be holding to ransom. Look at what the top 100 rated Pay TV programs are every year since Pay TV started. NRL is the reason people have Pay TV subscriptions in the first place.

Even stranger is, Foxtel told the AFL they were axing the AFL channel because of lack of interest and it seemed Ch 7/10 would have to push games onto SBS to avoid a ratings massacre in NSW/QLD by being forced to show all games. Then lo and behold Fox Sports jumps in, pays a tonne of cash for the rights and gives the AFL prime position on Fox Sports 1 and pushes NRL onto the expansion Fox Sports 3.

I think the AFL must be blessed by the gods. They are looked after by the Illuminati and the Freemasons.

Yes and when I went to my local club on weekdays to catch up with replays of NRL I found the big screens all on Fox 1 and had to sit there watching afl. I complained by email to Foxtel and didn't even receive a reply.

 

[bobmar28]

Im not saying it rates higher in sydney but it rates alot higher than nrl in victoria, WA, SA, tas

are u gunna throw ur money at something that rates in all states or sumthing that rates in just 2

Those 2 states where most Australians live. Out of an Australian population of 21 million I think you will find 11 million live in NSW/QLD.

 

[kkingston]

Those 2 states where most Australians live. Out of an Australian population of 21 million I think you will find 11 million live in NSW/QLD.

Sport is about the $$$
AFL gets more from its tv coverage than league
By the way with the new digital channels league should get improved coverage

 

[The Engineers Room]

It is hard to rate well when there is no advertising and it is broadcast out of prime time.

 

[kkingston]

It is hard to rate well when there is no advertising and it is broadcast out of prime time.

well seing as all you say the rugby lerague grand final beat AFL in GF rating, might prime time viewing have something to do with this

 

[The Engineers Room]

In the regular season, channel 9 doesn't play the games at the same time in all states.

 

[Luc]

There are a couple of interesting issues here:

The first is that as digital TV expands, and the networks are able to broadcast multiple channels, it is possible that each network could broadcast the football code that they have bought into all markets on one channel, while broadcasting alternative programming on another.

That also means that it would be possible for Channel 9, for example, to buy AFL and NRL rights and broadcast them both nationally. You might get into issues over broadcasting in HD, but it could be done.

The other thing that I've never really heard discussed is how much advertising revenue each code can generate for the network that purchases it. For example, AFL has regular ad breaks after each goal is scored. NRL doesn't have quite that many options available to the broadcaster, and it often covers up on-field action. Surely that makes some difference in value to the networks bidding?

 

[The Engineers Room]

There are a couple of interesting issues here:

The first is that as digital TV expands, and the networks are able to broadcast multiple channels, it is possible that each network could broadcast the football code that they have bought into all markets on one channel, while broadcasting alternative programming on another.

Problem is that they don't broadcast anything new on their other channels and the only networks with muliple channels are ABC, SBS and Channel 7. And channel 7 is the same on all three. What has happened to the revolution of broadcasting different things and what they said about having a stats channel and different camera angles on each channel? They seem to be too obsessed with HD to worry about it now.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

well seing as all you say the rugby lerague grand final beat AFL in GF rating, might prime time viewing have something to do with this

Here, I'll explain it in a language a dumbarse like you will understand.

click, click, whir, snort, fart, grunties.

 

[meltiger]

well seing as all you say the rugby lerague grand final beat AFL in GF rating, might prime time viewing have something to do with this

A more interesting spread of teams helped RL this year, same as it did for Aussie Rules last year.


(EA or someone else would know off the top of their head but I'm guessing the NSW audience for the AFL GF this year was very small in comparison to the year before, the AFL numbers in '06 being spiked artificially by the presence of the Swans in the game, though you could say the same about the Storm the last two years as well)

 

[Perth Red]

I guess the point is without the Storm we wouldn't have come close to getting those Victorian viewing figures. The same argument should be made for getting a revamped TV deal for 2012 based on new viewers in WA and SA. Not unreasonable that with Rl back in those States we could increase viewing from the current 200,000 to closer 600,000 for GF alone.