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Captain this week?

Panther_Daz

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Nathan Smith and Frank Puletua are the most obvious choices.Grant is a small possibility due to being in the leadership group.

You would think it would be Smith though due to him being on the field all game.
 

mxlegend99

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I think the 4 most likely options would be:

Jarrod Sammut
Unlikely, but he was captain in the lower grades and is full of confidence. Wouldn't bother him in the slightest having the added responsibility.

Wade Graham
Extremely unlikely, although he's a natural born leader and like Sammut, has captained teams int he lower grades. Would have no issue having the added responsibility.

Frank Puletua
Good chance. One of our most experienced players. His brother was a former captain and he's basically Petero Civoniceva minus ball handling skills. Pretty much why i'm leaning toward him or Smith.

Nathan Smith
Most likely. Matt Elliott loves him, and he's also one of our more experienced players.

Can't see anyone else having a chance at all.
 

Bob

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Luke Walsh for mine
On the field all the time and doesn't mind giving it to the forwards when they get lazy
 

The Teach

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I'm gonna throw two other names into the mix for different reasons, provided they're fit to play:
Paul Aiton - in a key position on the field and is a natural leader in my opinion
Shane Elford - lots of experience although he plays in an awkward position as captain
 

Kilkenny

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Common sense prevailed and Nathan Smith was the obvious choice given the players available and the need to have an 80 minute player out there given the inexperience. Pulutea simply does not play the minutes required to make him a viable captain.
 

Fibroman

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Common sense prevailed and Nathan Smith was the obvious choice given the players available and the need to have an 80 minute player out there given the inexperience. Pulutea simply does not play the minutes required to make him a viable captain.

Explain the logic of making T Puletua captain a couple of years ago????
 

mxlegend99

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If we need an 80 minute player, why not Wade Graham, Jarrod Sammut or Paul Aiton. They all have prior experience as captain.

Nathan Smith was picked simply because he's the coaches favourite player.
 

murraymob

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mx smithy is the correct choice there was only 2 really in the running i would have been happy with either choice sammut graham are not ready for that role
 

maple_69

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I would have liked Aiton because he has experience, been in the team for 3/4 years now and has been going great. At the end of the day though, none of them are as inspirational as a Lewis, Civ, Waterhouse etc so basically Walshy will be leading the side.
 

choc_soldier

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It is Smith.

Elliott's prowl for a stand-in skipper leads him to a Panther with a bit of growl

Greg Prichard | July 10, 2009

Penrith coach Matthew Elliott wasn't exactly looking for a hero - although the Panthers wouldn't say no to one coming out of nowhere for tonight's game against South Sydney, since they have so many players out - but he did need a new captain.
First-choice skipper, prop Petero Civoniceva, would have been in the Queensland team for State of Origin III had he been fit, but he was unavailable because of injury anyway. Second choice, back-rower Trent Waterhouse, was unavailable because he is in the NSW team to play the Maroons at Suncorp Stadium on Wednesday. Second-rower Frank Pritchard and utility Luke Lewis were also among those unavailable, both injured, which didn't leave much experience in the team. Neither of the halves could be seriously considered. Five-eighth Wade Graham is 18, and halfback Luke Walsh is 22, and didn't join the club until after this season began.
Prop Frank Puletua, who is 31 and has been at the club since 2004 in his second stint with the Panthers, was an obvious contender, but there was a problem in that he doesn't average much more than 50 minutes on the field per game.
So the coach settled on 26-year-old lock Nathan Smith, who usually plays the full 80 minutes and has the utmost respect of his teammates because of the way he puts his body on the line in defence on a weekly basis. But did Smith see it coming?
"No, it was a massive surprise," he told the Herald. "I thought they would probably go for someone who's been at the club a bit longer than me. But if that's the way they want to go, I'm very happy to do it. I guess it's an added responsibility, but I won't be afraid of it."
Elliott said he believed Smith was capable of steering the team back on to the right track if it lost its way during the game. "Nathan has been in our leadership group in the past," Elliott said. "He is assertive when he needs to be. He's not short of an opinion, and at his age it's only natural that he assumes a role of experience in the team.
"I needed someone who is probably going to be on the field for the whole game, and that's Nathan. If there's something that needs to be said to the players, I'm confident he'll come up with the right words. Plus, if there's something we need to talk to the referees about, he's well equipped to go about that the right way, as well."
Smith said while he felt he was up to the challenge of captaining a first-grade side, it would be a whole new experience.
"I've never been captain before, going back to the juniors," he said. "Ask me after the game and I'll tell you how I went, but I'm looking forward to it. Matt came up to me on Tuesday and asked me if I'd like to be captain, and I was honoured to do it.
"He told me to play my normal game, and that if anything comes up, just deal with it as I see fit. I haven't looked for any advice about how to handle the job. If I think I need to talk to someone, I'll have a chat to Petero before the game. If I have to talk to the refs, or talk to the players about something, I'll just take it as it comes. I'll probably be someone who mainly tries to lead by example. I like the way [Canberra captain] Alan Tongue leads by example and gets his teammates to follow, so I'll try to do it that way."
Elliott was unable to consider nine members of his first-grade squad because of injury and Origin commitments when he picked the team this week. The coach said those problems had enabled his players to concentrate on their own jobs, rather than be lulled into a false sense of security by the Rabbitohs having lost five games in a row.
"It actually makes the training week a bit easier," Elliott said. "You don't get distracted by the opposition. My job has been to get each individual to focus on what he has to do for the team. We've had a lot of work to do on ourselves, so we haven't spent too much time thinking about what the opposition is going to do."


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murraymob

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the captain barring injury was answered tonight .Waterhouse stood up and claimed the prize was out standing and lead the way in both attack and defence vice captain should be nathen smith big game and again lead by example
 

Kilkenny

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Seriously, if there is a more undervalued player at our club that Nathan Smith I'll give the game away.

I truly feel sorry for Nathan Smith the way the fans do not value his contributions.

Every club needs a Nathan Smith and we need to appreciate his contribution.

There are not to many lock forwards I would swap him for. I think he does a terrific job and is a terrific clubman.
 

mxlegend99

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At full strength our side doesn't even have a place for Nathan Smith. We wouldn't need to trade him for another lock forward because we already have Luke Lewis. IMO our strongest possible forward pack would have to be:

8. Frank Puletua
9. Paul Aiton
10. Petero Civoniceva
11. Frank Pritchard
12. Trent Waterhouse
13. Luke Lewis

14. Masada Iosefa / Joel Romelo
15. Matt Bell
16. Tim Grant
17. Gavin Cooper

Matt Elliott will always find a place for him, but if we were picking our best forward pack he would not be part of the side IMO. I have no issue with him as a depth player, as he puts in 110% and is fairly reliable.

But we only have room for one back rower on the bench, and IMO Gavin Cooper has more to offer then Nathan Smith. He's a workhorse just like Nathan Smith, but he's a lot more dangerous in attack IMO.
 

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