Central Coast Bears Franchise.

[Rockin Ronny]

May as well bring the Jets and Glebe back if you want to bring Norths back for the same reasons, they were screwed over by the league and clubs.

Brycey

there's enough morons employed by News Limited to run interference on this topic. Go find something else to do.

Anyone arguing that reintroducing the Bears at the Central Coast would not be a massive boost for the game is an idiot.

 

[dallymessenger]

I'm just going to assume that you didn't look at the ratings THIS WEEK.

i look at them every week.

nationally means everywhere in australia, not just the captial cities.

 

[dallymessenger]

higher ratings means sfa if you don't use it.
it's like having a massive wang but the guy with the needle dick still shags more chix than you.
and, proportionately, sydney would quite easily be the weakest of the RL heartlands.
take friday night's tv figures for instance:
sydney (population 4 million) - 345 000 = 8.625%
brisbane (population 2 million) - 257 000 = 12.85%
throw in regional nsw (2.5 million) and regional queensland (2 million) ratings (they'll at least match sydney's) and the supposed "strongest" RL area is looking pretty ordinary.

TV companies dont do it proportionately.

Sydney gets 30% more viewers on those figures.

and dont forget as the richest city in australia, advertising is worth much more to wealthier people as well.

 

[Perth Red]

and dont forget as the richest city in australia, advertising is worth much more to wealthier people as well.

I think you'll find Perth's average wage is now the highest in the country!

 

[RainMan]

Yeah, the strippers in Kalgoorlie are on huuuge amounts!

 

[Perth Red]

And quite rightly so! Strippers everyway should be on huge amounts!!

 

[Brycey]

Brycey

there's enough morons employed by News Limited to run interference on this topic. Go find something else to do.

Anyone arguing that reintroducing the Bears at the Central Coast would not be a massive boost for the game is an idiot.

Why the Bears? I am sorry Ronny but anyone who justifies the existence of another NSW RL club on the back of a feel good story in the media is themselves an idiot. I am not here to run interference, I was validating something that is true, if you're going to re-introduce teams for very reason than re-introduce others for the same reasons.

How sustainable is the NRL. In the next 15-20 years I say only 18-20 clubs maximum. And we want to waste 1 of those 4 space on an area that is an hours driving distance from 10 of the already existing clubs.

Other areas have much much more stronger cases for RL teams, the Central Coast is a relocation area, a team should not be introduced at the expense of the national well being of the game.

 

[Brycey]

TV companies dont do it proportionately.

Sydney gets 30% more viewers on those figures.

and dont forget as the richest city in australia, advertising is worth much more to wealthier people as well.

Making it up as you go again Dally or do you have any sort of substance to back up that claim?

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

I agree, I think that the only way the Central Coast should get a team is if a Sydney team moves up there or 2 Sydney team merge.

 

[NK Arsenal]

I'd love to see a CC franchise.

The locals would get bargain tickets - two heads for the price of one.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Why the Bears? I am sorry Ronny but anyone who justifies the existence of another NSW RL club on the back of a feel good story in the media is themselves an idiot. I am not here to run interference, I was validating something that is true, if you're going to re-introduce teams for very reason than re-introduce others for the same reasons.

How sustainable is the NRL. In the next 15-20 years I say only 18-20 clubs maximum. And we want to waste 1 of those 4 space on an area that is an hours driving distance from 10 of the already existing clubs.

Other areas have much much more stronger cases for RL teams, the Central Coast is a relocation area, a team should not be introduced at the expense of the national well being of the game.

It's not true. "Relocation area" - that's just crap you swallow from the NRL.

Rugby league is a game played in NSW (mainly Sydney) and QLD. Internationally, it is in northern England with splotches in Lebanon and Papua New Guinea. It's core is in NSW and QLD.

The game had thrived because of its tradition and tribalism - that is why News Limited wanted to use this popularity to sell Pay TV.

The areas the NRL should expand to are areas that you know will work. The CC is obvious in this respect - and the reintroduction of the Bears is a great story for rugby league.

I am hapy to reintroduce other traditional teams - but they need a promise from the NRL of a regional licence, financial backing, build their own sports stadium and get a multi-millionaire to back them. That's what the Bears have.

The biggest obstacle for the CC Bears are the current clubs who are sh*tscared because a strong CC Bears will show them up for their own management incompetence.

 

[Brycey]

Lol Ronny I think you're the one that has been listening to News Ltd too much, you're sounding like Gallops echo.

You keep living in your concealed world of central NSW. For the rest of us, we will aspire to have clubs in Perth, SW QLD, Sunshine Coast, PNG, Wellington, and Central QLD.

I'm sure it would be a great news story for rugby league, and I say that without any sarcasm. But what happens a week later when the story in the paper has run its last print and the need for national expansion is left rotting while the CC Bears bask in a weeks worth of hype and media attention.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Lol Ronny I think you're the one that has been listening to News Ltd too much, you're sounding like Gallops echo.

You keep living in your concealed world of central NSW. For the rest of us, we will aspire to have clubs in Perth, SW QLD, Sunshine Coast, PNG, Wellington, and Central QLD.

I'm sure it would be a great news story for rugby league, and I say that without any sarcasm. But what happens a week later when the story in the paper has run its last print and the need for national expansion is left rotting while the CC Bears bask in a weeks worth of hype and media attention.

Bycey

You're in a dreamworld. The once great rugby league is run by a media organisation that ensures it pays bugger all for broadcasting and takes millions of dollars out of the game. Until they are gone, rugby league has no money. So - expansion needs teams that are self-sustaining in rugby league areas.

If you remove the emotion, tradition and tribalism from rugby league, it won't survive. It doesnt have enough smart people running each club to get the $$ in to survive. Most club CEOs are ex footballers and painters or alcoholics from the local leagues clubs. They have no clue about running a tap let alone a business. they're great for a garbled quote on TV about high tackles - if they're sober - but that's it.

Teams in NZ, PNG, SW Qld - just a rubbish comment with no intellectual basis behind it. You get your core base right first - then you move to the fringes.

 

[Brycey]

Ronny - I am well aware of our situation, I too am an advocate of a News-free NRL to maximise our revenue.

I'm not saying remove tribalism from the game, I am a fan of it. You speak so passionately about tradition, tell me...how many years out of our 100 year existence has a first grade team been on the Central Coast. If you want to re-instate the Bears, yet you speak of tribalism then by your way of thinking Bears should be back in North Sydney. Your argument has manly holes in it.

Ronny I would like to know how many CEOs nowadays are ex-players. Maybe 5-10 years ago, but not in the present.

Rubbish comments, PNG is the national sport of rugby league.
SW QLD - the areas of Ipswich, Gatton, Toowoomba. Not only one of the fastest growing areas, it already has a combined population of 250,000 people. Not to mention history, heard of the Toowoomba Clydesdales...the team that in 1924 and 1925 beat every club, state and rep team that ever faced them. Not to mention Ipswichs strong rugby league history too.

You would not have the slightest of ideas the history that rugby league has in many areas outside of NSW. You are ignorant and are a hinderance on the expansion of rugby league.

 

[Razor]

How can the nrl say no to a franchise from that area and being the bears.

advantages :

1. RL represented in another strongly growing area.
2. Lots of juniors to draw from in the central coast area.
3. Strong finances with Nth Sydney and gosford LC behind them
4. Fantastic new ground with a train station and LC close by
5. Easy commute from sydney for nth sydney fans and sydeny teams playing there
6. 2 massive derby games vs manly and newcastle.
7. another foundation club resurrected so RL recognizing and reviving its history
8. get some of the fans we lost to AFL and union once the bears were killed off
9. engender good feeling about the game for RL fans

Cons - They had a team that played 50% of their matches there and were getting pitifully small crowds. The smallest in the NRL by a long way. There's a reason they ditched the Central Coast arrangement a long-time before the deal ended.

 

[dallymessenger]

Making it up as you go again Dally or do you have any sort of substance to back up that claim?

look at property prices as an example.

if you were a TV exec. which market is worth the most on its own ...


the winner is sydney

 

[dallymessenger]

Lol Ronny I think you're the one that has been listening to News Ltd too much, you're sounding like Gallops echo.

You keep living in your concealed world of central NSW. For the rest of us, we will aspire to have clubs in Perth, SW QLD, Sunshine Coast, PNG, Wellington, and Central QLD.

I'm sure it would be a great news story for rugby league, and I say that without any sarcasm. But what happens a week later when the story in the paper has run its last print and the need for national expansion is left rotting while the CC Bears bask in a weeks worth of hype and media attention.

if no sydney team chooses to move what happens then?

is it no CC team or bring in a new team?

if its the latter it may as well be the bears.

 

[dallymessenger]

Cons - They had a team that played 50% of their matches there and were getting pitifully small crowds. The smallest in the NRL by a long way. There's a reason they ditched the Central Coast arrangement a long-time before the deal ended.

:lol:

was that a serious post.

 

[Brycey]

If it were left up to me Dally I would put a criteria in place to all the Sydney teams to get their acts together. If any of them cannot make the criteria, take the money and go to Gosford, SC, or Perth or be annexed from the comp. Then and only then after an annexing, you could have your beloved Bears.

 

[Brycey]

:lol:

was that a serious post.

Northern Eagles 2nd last in crowd averages in 2001, Canberra last.

So I don't like to speak on behalf of anyone, but I am guessing it was a serious post.