Chris Benoit and Family Found Dead

[Blade]

If you want to start an argument, go to the Fight Club with the rest of the clowns.

WTF?!?

So I'm a "clown" for asking Eelementary for a clarification, correct? LMFAO!

He may not have said "that" but he may have implied it... I just wanted him to free his earlier remarks from ambiguity.

As for the rest of your drivel, Eelementary can speak for himself. Pfffttt...

Oh, and BTW, don't tell me where to and/or where not to post.... Capiche?

 

[CJG 182]

Watch out CWB.. seems you're dealing with a tough guy.. what ever will you do?!?!

 

[Blade]

You tell him Sunshine.... an internet tough-guy to be precise.

Forum buddies... the most loyal kind.

LMAO!

 

[Jono078]

Wrestler 'used choke hold on son'
June 28, 2007 - 6:54AM

Professional wrestler Chris Benoit met with his personal physician hours before he allegedly killed his wife and son before hanging himself in his basement, the doctor said.

"He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff," said Dr Phil Astin of metro Atlanta. "He certainly didn't show any signs of any distress or rage or anything."

Authorities say Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his seven-year-old son Daniel and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine pulley over the weekend. Authorities have not named a motive for the killings, which were spread out over the weekend and discovered on Monday.

Astin, who said he was Benoit's long-time friend and physician, said he had prescribed testosterone to Benoit because he suffered from low amounts of the hormone. He said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of the meeting.

"I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," Astin said. "He worshipped his child."

Investigators said Benoit's 43-year-old wife was strangled on Friday with what appeared to be a cable in an upstairs family room. Her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Daniel was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, and his body was found in his bed, District Attorney Scott Ballard said.

Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on his neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. "It's a process of elimination," he said.

The family was struggling before the killings with how to care for the child, who suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X syndrome, an inherited form of mental geniusation often accompanied by autism, said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment.

"Him and Nancy were clearly struggling about this whole issue, about how to take care of Daniel," said McDevitt.

Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs may have caused the muscle man nicknamed the "Canadian Crippler" to kill his wife and child and then himself.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Connecticut, issued a news release on Tuesday evening saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death" and that the findings indicate "deliberation, not rage". It also added that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

The organisation did not return phone calls for comment on Wednesday.

While steroids can cause paranoia and explosive outbursts, the drug is also associated with deep and lengthy bouts of depression.

"Just as you have the extreme high of when you're on steroids, you can get the opposite," said Dr Todd Schlifstein, a clinical assistant professor at the New York University School of Medicine. "You can have a dramatic difference in mood swings. You can feel there's no hope, there's no future."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/wrestler-used-choke-hold-on-son/2007/06/28/1182624024848.html#

 

[The Colonel]

Wrestler 'used choke hold on son'
Email Print Normal font Large font Nancy Daus-Benoit when she wrestled for the National Wrestling Alliance and husband Chris Benoit.

June 28, 2007 - 6:54AM

Professional wrestler Chris Benoit met with his personal physician hours before he allegedly killed his wife and son before hanging himself in his basement, the doctor said.

"He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff," said Dr Phil Astin of metro Atlanta. "He certainly didn't show any signs of any distress or rage or anything."

Authorities say Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his seven-year-old son Daniel and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine pulley over the weekend. Authorities have not named a motive for the killings, which were spread out over the weekend and discovered on Monday.

Astin, who said he was Benoit's long-time friend and physician, said he had prescribed testosterone to Benoit because he suffered from low amounts of the hormone. He said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use. He would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of the meeting.

"I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," Astin said. "He worshipped his child."

Investigators said Benoit's 43-year-old wife was strangled on Friday with what appeared to be a cable in an upstairs family room. Her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Daniel was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, and his body was found in his bed, District Attorney Scott Ballard said.

Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on his neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. "It's a process of elimination," he said.

The family was struggling before the killings with how to care for the child, who suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X syndrome, an inherited form of mental geniusation often accompanied by autism, said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment.

"Him and Nancy were clearly struggling about this whole issue, about how to take care of Daniel," said McDevitt.

Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit's home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs may have caused the muscle man nicknamed the "Canadian Crippler" to kill his wife and child and then himself.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Connecticut, issued a news release on Tuesday evening saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death" and that the findings indicate "deliberation, not rage". It also added that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

The organisation did not return phone calls for comment on Wednesday.

While steroids can cause paranoia and explosive outbursts, the drug is also associated with deep and lengthy bouts of depression.

"Just as you have the extreme high of when you're on steroids, you can get the opposite," said Dr Todd Schlifstein, a clinical assistant professor at the New York University School of Medicine. "You can have a dramatic difference in mood swings. You can feel there's no hope, there's no future."

AP

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/wrestler-used-choke-hold-on-son/2007/06/28/1182624024848.html

There is a lot more to this story by the looks of things than some guy who just flipped out because of steroids if that statement from the WWE is to be believed.

However, the WWE probably shouldn't be trying to defend the bloke even if he was or wasn't taking steroids.

 

[Blade]

"I'm still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved," Astin said. "He worshipped his child."

Yeah... I guess people have different ways of showing how much they "worship" their children.

 

[The Colonel]

Benoits argued over care of son, WWE attorney says
June 27, 2007

BY GREG BLUESTEIN

ASSOCIATED PRESS

ATLANTA — In the days before pro wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and child and hanged himself, the couple argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally geniused 7-year-old son, an attorney for the wrestling league said Wednesday.

“I think it’s fair to say that the subject of caring for that child was part of what made their relationship complicated and difficult, and it’s something they were both constantly struggling with,” said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment. “We do know it was a source of stress and consternation.”

McDevitt said the wrestling organization learned from the couple’s friends and relatives that the Benoits were struggling with where to send the boy to school since he had recently finished kindergarten.

He also said Benoit’s wife didn’t want him to quit wrestling, but she “wanted him to be at home more to care for the kid. She’d say she can’t take care of him by herself when he was on the road.”

The child suffered from a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental geniusation often accompanied by autism, McDevitt said.

Over the past weekend, authorities said, Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine cable in the couple’s suburban home. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.

Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit’s home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the slayings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as “roid rage.”

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a news release Tuesday saying steroids “were not and could not be related to the cause of death” and that the findings indicate “deliberation, not rage.” It also added that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

Also Wednesday, Benoit’s personal physician said the wrestler did not give any indication he was troubled when he met with the doctor hours before the start of the weekend.

Benoit had been under the care of Dr. Phil Astin, a longtime friend, for treatment of low testosterone levels. Astin said the condition likely originated from previous steroid use.

Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed the day of their meeting.

“He was in my office on Friday to stop by just to see my staff,” Astin said. “He certainly didn’t show any signs of any distress or rage or anything.”

“I’m still very surprised and shocked, especially with his child Daniel involved,” Astin said. “He worshipped his child.”

District Attorney Scott Ballard said the autopsy indicated that there were no bruise marks on the child’s neck, so authorities are now assuming he could have been killed using a choke hold. “It’s a process of elimination,” he said.

The Benoits’ argument over their son was not the only friction in their marriage. Nancy Benoit had filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple’s three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging “cruel treatment.” She later dropped the complaint.

Meanwhile, authorities in Georgia were investigating a link between Benoit and a Florida business that may have supplied him with steroids.

Prosecutors in upstate New York who have been investigating the company’s drug sales said Benoit received deliveries from Signature Pharmacy and MedXLife.com, which sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet.

Six people, including two of the pharmacy’s owners, have pleaded guilty in the investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists.

“That’s something that sounds like we ought to be investigating,” Ballard told the AP on Wednesday.

A lawyer for MedXLife co-owner Dr. Gary Brandwein scoffed at allegations that his client’s company sold steroids to Benoit.

“I’ve only read that in the paper. I have no direct information about that whatsoever,” Terence Kindlon said Wednesday, adding that prosecutors in Albany County, N.Y., were trying to “distract everyone’s attention from the fact that their case is disintegrating.”

Brandwein, a 44-year-old osteopath from Boca Raton, Fla., has pleaded not guilty to six counts in New York state court related to the criminal sale of a controlled substance. He was accused of signing and sending prescriptions without ever seeing patients.

Telephone messages left for attorneys for Brian Schafler and Greg Trotta — two other co-owners of MedXLife — were not immediately returned Wednesday. The two men have pleaded guilty to felony third-degree diversion of prescription medications and prescriptions, admitting they helped get drugs in 2006 for customers in upstate New York who had no medical need for them.

McDevitt said the drugs found in Benoit’s house were legitimately prescribed. “There’s no question, none of these drugs are out there, none of these drugs came from Internet pharmacies,” he said.

In addition to causing paranoia and explosive outbursts, steroids can also contribute to deep depression, according to experts.

“Just as you have the extreme high of when you’re on steroids, you can get the opposite,” said Dr. Todd Schlifstein, a clinical assistant professor at the New York University School of Medicine. “You can have a dramatic difference in mood swings. You can feel there’s no hope, there’s no future.”

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070627/ENT03/70627075

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

It looks more and more likely that Benoit (in his mind) was trying to end the pain for the three of them, no more fighting over the boy's well being, no future struggle in life for the young bloke. No excuse of course. I have never been put in a choke hold personally but I pray it wasn't too painful or drawn out for the kid.

Yeah... I guess people have different ways of showing how much they "worship" their children.

Another quality contribution :roll:.

Get lost you dill, it's all well and good to have an opinion but this is a serious issue and you're being nothing but a smartarse about it.

 

[lotm]

However, the WWE probably shouldn't be trying to defend the bloke even if he was or wasn't taking steroids

it doesn't seem to me that the wwe are trying to defend benoit in the slightest. trying to explain his actions and trying to justify them are two completely different concepts, imo.

can i just mention how well i think the wwe and vince mcmahon have handled this incident:
- the tribute to benoit, considering the lack of facts about his conduct, was tastefully done
- mcmahon appeared in person, effectively putting an end to his 'death' storyline
- the entire crowd (and enormous gate takings) for raw was turned away
- his speech before ecw did not apologise for the tribute the night before, but tastefully declined to mention benoit in any form from then after
- removal of anything benoit-related from the wwe website and wweshop (at least temporarily) to avoid the exploitation of the incident
- reporting of the facts: whilst keeping the fans informed, the wwe kept some information confidential

although mcmahon often gets flak for the way he runs the business, there's no doubt in my mind that he's an incredibly passionate, and compassionate, person who deals extremely well and tastefully with tragedy. his conduct after the deaths of owen hart, eddie guerrero and chris benoit (not to mention 9/11) are testament to this, imo.

well done, vince, you deserve congratulations on your handling of this difficult situation.

 

[ParraDude_Jay]

his conduct after the deaths of owen hart, eddie guerrero and chris benoit (not to mention 9/11) are testament to this, imo.

Like making a storyline out of the death of Guerrero? Exploiting it to get Rey over even further? The way he handled Eddie's passing was quite cringeworthy IMO, having Randy Orton say what he did was just embarassing and hard to watch.

I agree apart from that, McMahon has been nothing short of brilliant in his handling of this. He has done it with alot of class, particularly the way he, rather than completely alienate the people who were close to Benoit, just dedicate the future shows to the people affected rather than the man himself. And reports on Rajah say he has been a very strong leader and shoulder to cry on for the other superstars.

 

[Big Tim]

The news about Daniel can go along way to explaining Benoit's thought patterns, it does not justify them, but it does give an idea as to what he and his wife were handling while Chris was on the road so much.

I know marriages that have been torn apart because a child has a condition that requires 24hr care, and that is only when one of the partners worked 36hrs a week.... Imagine how difficult it would be to handle when you, or your partner works for the WWE.

I am not defending the actions taken, but am merely trying to understand what happened.

 

[The Colonel]

it doesn't seem to me that the wwe are trying to defend benoit in the slightest. trying to explain his actions and trying to justify them are two completely different concepts, imo.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a news release Tuesday saying steroids “were not and could not be related to the cause of death” and that the findings indicate “deliberation, not rage.” It also added that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.

I'm referring more to this statement. Sure, what they are saying seems quite logical but I don't think they really should be making those sort of assumptions just yet.....

 

[Eelementary]

Let me get this right before I tear you a new one... so you're backing his actions of strangling his wife and suffocating his child, correct?

:lol: That's so pathetically childish.

I never said I condoned it. I merely criticised you for claiming there are no extenuating circumstances behind it. So yeah - you know his mental state at the time, do you? You know why he did it, do you?

Someone who is not 100% sane mentally is capable of doing anything, and they're not always in control of their own faculties.

But please - don't let that get in the way of his crucifixion.

 

[Game_Breaker]

I'm referring more to this statement. Sure, what they are saying seems quite logical but I don't think they really should be making those sort of assumptions just yet.....

I think the WWE are just making a reference to "roid rage".

The murders happend over the course of a few days, so they're saying his actions are more deliberate rather than uncontrolled violent outbursts caused by roid rage.

 

[Stonecutter]

I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but...

Benoit used wrestling hold to choke son
Thursday Jun 28 11:00 AEST
Police investigators believe pro wrestler Chris Benoit used one of his signature choke-holds to strangle his son.

A spokesman for the Fayette County district attorney's office in Atlanta said seven-year-old Daniel Benoit had internal injuries to his throat but showed no external bruises.

This suggested his father used a move wrestling fans would recognise as a figure-eight lock: the left wrist pushes the head forward into the crook of the right arm which wraps around the throat, with the right hand grabbing the left forearm and so creating a high-pressure 'noose'.

The finding is in contrast to earlier reports that the boy was smothered or strangled.

Benoit's wife Nancy, who was strangled, had bruises to her back and stomach consistent with someone pressing her down with their knee while pulling a cord around her neck.

All three family members were found dead in their exclusive home on Monday afternoon.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=275715

 

[Sanchez]

this gets worse by the day

 

[Misanthrope]

That's messed up. Seriously, sickeningly messed up.

But when has Benoit used the figure eight lock? Or is it the technical name for one of his genuine signature moves?

 

[Stonecutter]

I think the signature choke hold is an exageration by the reporter.

 

[Game_Breaker]

I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but...



http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=275715

That sounds like the crossface, but the police said they still dont know.


Sounds like sensationalism from the reporter

 

[Misanthrope]

The Crippler Crossface is a crossface arm lock, not a figure of eight lock. In fact, I can't find any reference to a figure eight lock anywhere. Maybe he did use a 'signature hold', but I think you're right about this being a bit of sensationalistic journalism. I wouldn't be surprised if he used some sort of hold, but going to the lengths of locking in a signature move is either incredibly sick or incredibly stupid.