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Complaint of racial abuse in Roosters v Broncos

Mr Angry

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Can you still say Gordon's mother is a rig?

I rooted your sister last night, said she prefers my dick to yours...

Where is the line?
 
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Apey

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MKCS said:
8 weeks just doesn't seem fair. I understand wanting to stamp racism out of the game and I'm totally for that but Latrell Mitchell broke Manu's face and tried to fight him and only got 6. Greg Inglis got in a car drunk and sped to only miss out on 2 games, even Val Holmes only missed 1 game for uploading a photo on socials of him with a "white bag"

Surely potentially killing people and causing a relatively serious injury due to foul play is at the very least equal to Leniu calling Mam a monkey...
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Meh, I don't think comparing on-field incidents to literal crimes committed off the field that are also punished by the law are a fair comparison.

Latrell is a thug who should have got more. But the fact is racism is a worse look for the sport overall than a high shot. The game needs and wants to be inclusive. It doesn't take a brainiac to work out why sexual/racist incidents are going to have a heavier penalty.
 
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Apey said:
Meh, I don't think comparing on-field incidents to literal crimes committed off the field that are also punished by the law are a fair comparison.

Latrell is a thug who should have got more. But the fact is racism is a worse look for the sport overall than a high shot. The game needs and wants to be inclusive. It doesn't take a brainiac to work out why sexual/racist incidents are going to have a heavier penalty.
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I can sort of see where MKCS is coming from, but I agree, having an off-field incident that has other punishments (i.e. Police, courts etc) isn't really comparable.

Looking at it through global impact lenses, racism is such a world-wide issue that it's going to cause more uproar than a high shot (although it was f**king horrific) and have more potential to hurt "the brand".
 
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ACTPanthers said:
I can sort of see where MKCS is coming from, but I agree, having an off-field incident that has other punishments (i.e. Police, courts etc) isn't really comparable.

Looking at it through global impact lenses, racism is such a world-wide issue that it's going to cause more uproar than a high shot (although it was f**king horrific) and have more potential to hurt "the brand".
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Hit the nail. A high shot hurts a player, racial abuse hurts the brand. I think he got off lightly really.
 
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ACTPanthers said:
I can sort of see where MKCS is coming from, but I agree, having an off-field incident that has other punishments (i.e. Police, courts etc) isn't really comparable.

Looking at it through global impact lenses, racism is such a world-wide issue that it's going to cause more uproar than a high shot (although it was f**king horrific) and have more potential to hurt "the brand".
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You don't think having sex offenders in the game is a bad look?
 
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You don't think having sex offenders in the game is a bad look?
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Of course I do... what a stupid question. Where in my post, or the ones I quoted, did sex offenders even get brought up?

But if you want my opinion on it, I think they should all be shot... point blank.... but in lieu of that, if they're found guilty they should be behind bars (e.g. Hayne).

But I was referencing the incidents that MKCS mentioned in his post, none of which were sex offenders.
 
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ACTPanthers said:
Of course I do... what a stupid question. Where in my post, or the ones I quoted, did sex offenders even get brought up?

But if you want my opinion on it, I think they should all be shot... point blank.... but in lieu of that, if they're found guilty they should be behind bars (e.g. Hayne).

But I was referencing the incidents that MKCS mentioned in his post, none of which were sex offenders.
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MKCS missed one - A sex offender got 7 weeks last year.

Spencer got 8, Some still say it is unders.

I wouldn't allow any criminals in the game but the game seems to be harsher on words, then actual crimes
 
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MKCS missed one - A sex offender got 7 weeks last year.

Spencer got 8, Some still say it is unders.

I wouldn't allow any criminals in the game but the game seems to be harsher on words, then actual crimes
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Right, you seem to really want me to argue with you about this... which is weird.

I already gave my opinion on that, which has nothing to do with my previous post but you seem to really want to use it as a "ha ha gotcha" moment. It's not. I was replying to the what the post said, not what it didn't say.
 
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Apey said:
You've kind of been dancing around your point in this thread, maybe due to fear of backlash I don't know, but it'd be great if you could just sum it up for us instead of us trying to work it out through all your vague statements.

What do you think his suspension should have been and why?
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Im guessing he will continue his Electric Boogaloo and dance around that question.
 
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ACTPanthers said:
Of course I do... what a stupid question. Where in my post, or the ones I quoted, did sex offenders even get brought up?

But if you want my opinion on it, I think they should all be shot... point blank.... but in lieu of that, if they're found guilty they should be behind bars (e.g. Hayne).

But I was referencing the incidents that MKCS mentioned in his post, none of which were sex offenders.
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It's also about context. In the Brown example old mate has just gone back to he also had a 40k fine and judicial penalties...
 
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Apey said:
You've kind of been dancing around your point in this thread, maybe due to fear of backlash I don't know, but it'd be great if you could just sum it up for us instead of us trying to work it out through all your vague statements.

What do you think his suspension should have been and why?
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Because it isn't an easy one to decide. That is the thing, nor is a straight out that Leinu hates aboriginals.

I do think the colour of his skin lessened the sentence

He is missing for 1/3rd of the season for a stupid comment made, personally I think it is fair.

JT and Latrell who are aboriginal leaders say it should be more, Again it is their opinions but doesn't mean the panel last night got it wrong
 
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Paul Gallen fined for 'racial slur' against Mickey Paea

Cronulla captain fined $10,000 for allegedly making a racial comment to Dragons forward Mickey Paea.
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Cronulla captain Paul Gallen has been fined $10,000 for allegedly making a racial comment to St George Illawarra forward Mickey Paea during Saturday night's game.Paea told the referee Gallen had called him a "black c..." during the clash at Toyota Stadium, which the Dragons won 26-4.The alleged insult occurred after Paea had tackled the Sharks forward late in the game. Paea declined to make an official on-field complaint, and the pair reportedly reconciled after the game. But the NRL said in a statement on Monday it was fining Gallen $10,000 for a breach of the player code of conduct.

How times have changed....and for the better.
 
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Wizardman said:
www.illawarramercury.com.au

Paul Gallen fined for 'racial slur' against Mickey Paea

Cronulla captain fined $10,000 for allegedly making a racial comment to Dragons forward Mickey Paea.
www.illawarramercury.com.au www.illawarramercury.com.au

Cronulla captain Paul Gallen has been fined $10,000 for allegedly making a racial comment to St George Illawarra forward Mickey Paea during Saturday night's game.Paea told the referee Gallen had called him a "black c..." during the clash at Toyota Stadium, which the Dragons won 26-4.The alleged insult occurred after Paea had tackled the Sharks forward late in the game. Paea declined to make an official on-field complaint, and the pair reportedly reconciled after the game. But the NRL said in a statement on Monday it was fining Gallen $10,000 for a breach of the player code of conduct.

How times have changed....and for the better.
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Maybe he didn't say that at all... Maybe he just said "you have a fat gunt"

Could've been anything really...

(just in case this is missed by anyone, *sarcasm*)
 
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