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D day for Parramatta

Name three players Parramatta must keep if they are to make the playoffs.


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Special K

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Below is a really good break down of their cap situation.


Parramatta may be forced to release Corey Norman or another big-name star as part of a fire sale to get under the salary cap before their next match on May 13 in a move likely to spark a merry-go-round of mid-season player transfers.
This is going to cost them a big name

A rival NRL club CEO
With the NRL telling the Eels they must shed $570,000 of talent before the team can start accruing premiership points again, rival clubs are reviewing their own rosters with an eye to snaring Parramatta players at a bargain-basement price.
First cab off the rank? Corey Norman is one of several Eels stars who may be shown the door as the embattled club ...
First cab off the rank? Corey Norman is one of several Eels stars who may be shown the door as the embattled club attempts to get back under the salary cap. Photo: Mark Nolan
A decision on the playing future of Anthony Watmough will be crucial to the Eels' hopes of getting under the salary cap but even if he agrees to retire and the NRL accepts that he has a career-ending injury, Parramatta will have to shed other players.
Watmough's contract is understood to be worth $700,000 per season plus third-party agreements valued at $200,000 under the salary cap because they were guaranteed by Parramatta. However, the former Test back rower has already earned six months' pay, so the most the Eels could save is $450,000 if the NRL immediately approved the terms of his retirement.
Further, Parramatta would need to replace him in their top-25-man squad with a player on at least $42,500, which is half the minimum wage for the season. The same applies for any other player they release.
Therefore, the most the Eels are likely to save if Watmough retires is $407,500 and they will still need to release a player on $400,000 per season or more to cover the remainder of their salary cap excess as $200,000 of his contract money would have already been paid and any replacement would be valued at $42,500 or more.

Rival clubs will also seek to sign Parramatta players at below-market value by getting the Eels to subsidise the contracts of players they release.
Parramatta coach Brad Arthur will be determined not to lose Norman when he meets with club officials on Wednesday to discuss how they can immediately get under the salary cap but his $400,000-per-year contract expires at the end of this season and and the star playmaker is reportedly seeking $600,000 for 2017 and beyond.
Fullback Michael Gordon is also off contract at the end of the season but his deal is believed to be worth less than $200,000, meaning that the Eels would only save about $60,000 after adding another player on minimum wage to their top-25-man squad in his place.
As a result, Parramatta would need to release at least three players on similar deals to Gordon to save the additional $170,000 needed to become cap compliant and rely on Watmough retiring due to a chronic knee injury.

Should he decide to do so, the NRL would need reliable medical evidence that Watmough has a career-ending injury and any attempt by him to make a comeback after receiving an insurance payout would be strongly resisted.
There was confusion among Parramatta officials and at other clubs about what players the Eels would need to let go but the only players on big money deals who could help solve their woes are Watmough, Norman, Kieran Foran, Michael Jennings and Beau Scott.
"They are probably going to have to release three or four high-profile players to get under the cap and I don't think they will be able to do it," one rival NRL club boss said.
Another club CEO said: "This is going to cost them a big name."

The Sydney Roosters, Gold Coast and Newcastle all have room under the salary cap to accommodate players released by Parramatta but other clubs told Fairfax Media they would prepare to adjust their rosters if necessary should a player of the calibre of Norman or Jennings become available.
Negotiations with Norman have been on hold while the Eels waited for the NRL to hand down their findings from the three-month salary-cap investigation and his agent Paul Sutton has admitted the in-form playmaker could be forced out of the club.
Until the Eels shed $570,000 from their salary cap, they will be playing without the ability to earn competition points and it is estimated the club has four weeks to do so before it will become impossible to make the NRL finals, even if they win all their remaining games.


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It should be a bloodbath. What happens if there is an injury crisis and they need to go into the T2 cap? What if they breach that?!
 

LESStar58

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Below is a really good break down of their cap situation.




It should be a bloodbath. What happens if there is an injury crisis and they need to go into the T2 cap? What if they breach that?!

Fine them the suspended value and dock more points.
 

Lambretta

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I think the relaxed stance the NRL has taken on this when compared to the Storm case (i.e. Allowing Parra to compete for points moving forward) has everything to do with them wanting to move the board on. By tying these 5 guys to the conditions, it ensures that they are isolated from the club, and will face pressure from the fans/players/staff if they want to continue to fight and wind up being the only reason why points are held back. The NRL is basically calling Sharps bluff when he said he would stand down if it meant Parra would not lose any points - obviously that's not the current deal (they already lost all their points regardless) but it's kinda the same situation now where they are prevented from accumulating any points while these guys hold their positions.

This is definitely the case from what I'm seeing

Earlier in the year - the NRL advised Parramatta they wouldn't lose points if they did exactly what the NRL wanted them to do - come clean about the cheating and agree to certain parameters about the board's structure and how the board members are voted in

Parramatta ignored the warning and started making noises about suing the NRL etc etc and now they find themselves losing all their points as well as having to restructure

Remember this is a board that said
"let's cheat the salary cap"
"lets record our meetings"
"lets put these recordings on a computer"
"lets make this computer available to the auditor"

This board is not bright and doesn't make decisions that benefit Parramatta or it's supporters.

If I was a fan of the club I'd be kicking the f**kers down the street myself
 

Pete Cash

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Below is a really good break down of their cap situation.




It should be a bloodbath. What happens if there is an injury crisis and they need to go into the T2 cap? What if they breach that?!

It should be a bloodbath. They shouldnt benefit from an illegally assembled team its easy as that. They should play under a reduced salary cap next year tbh. Dont cripple them forever but make it impossible to retain people off contract next year would be ideal. If they lost norman and a few others id feel that the punishment fit the crime.
 

some11

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I think the relaxed stance the NRL has taken on this when compared to the Storm case (i.e. Allowing Parra to compete for points moving forward) has everything to do with them wanting to move the board on. By tying these 5 guys to the conditions, it ensures that they are isolated from the club, and will face pressure from the fans/players/staff if they want to continue to fight and wind up being the only reason why points are held back.

The NRL is basically calling Sharps bluff when he said he would stand down if it meant Parra would not lose any points - obviously that's not the current deal (they already lost all their points regardless) but it's kinda the same situation now where they are prevented from accumulating any points while these guys hold their positions.

Agree, its a pretty brilliant move actually.

The public backlash against these f**kwits is immense - step down or ruin the club.
 

beave

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If the 5 board members accept the penalty of having to step aside, are they then admitting liability for the whole mess?

This might be why they are not rolling over so easy and fighting it tooth and nail.
 

Rhyno

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Highly unlikely we will make the finals now so I'd rather play for no points this year and release no one
We have 15 players of contract so will be under the cap next year no point releasing a big name player we've already got signed up for the next couple of years
 

Perth Red

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Watmough is on $900k a year? geez I ain't going to feel sorry for players in negotiating a new pay agreement if a numpty at end of career like him can earn those sort of $'s.

Bet there are a few players and player managers sweating that this may come to court and all the dirty linen aired of what went on. NRL could brush the Storm player involvement under the carpet as no-one got to see the evidence trail but if the Parra management fight it in court all the player involvement details will come out and the NRL will have to act.
 

Walt Flanigan

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Highly unlikely we will make the finals now so I'd rather play for no points this year and release no one

Lol I don’t think the other 15 clubs will appreciate the possibility of losing to a team that’s over the cap.
 

Chief_Chujo

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It will be pretty scummy if they intentionally don't become cap compliant.

Not caring that the rest of the comp play their cheat team so they can hold onto the core of the illegally assembled squad. Yea f**k that.
I'll have zero sympathy for the players/coach and the Eels fans calling for this. They will all be just as bad as the board that rorted in the first place.
 
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ACTPanthers

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Highly unlikely we will make the finals now so I'd rather play for no points this year and release no one
We have 15 players of contract so will be under the cap next year no point releasing a big name player we've already got signed up for the next couple of years

So, not only are you an absolute moron, you're a bit of a merkin as well...?
 

OVP

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It will be pretty scummy if they intentionally don't become cap compliant.

Not caring that the rest of the comp play their cheat team so they can hold onto the core of the illegally assembled squad. Yea f**k that.
I'll have zero sympathy for the players/coach and the Eels fans calling for this. They will all be just as bad as the board that rorted in the first place.

Well the Bulldogs didnt (they actually gained a rep player, Andrew Ryan, even after being caught cheating) and they won a comp out of it. Expect the Eels to do the same.
 

butchmcdick

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Well the Bulldogs didnt (they actually gained a rep player, Andrew Ryan, even after being caught cheating) and they won a comp out of it. Expect the Eels to do the same.

The eels are going to sign Andrew Ryan for next season ?
 

Chief_Chujo

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Well the Bulldogs didnt (they actually gained a rep player, Andrew Ryan, even after being caught cheating) and they won a comp out of it. Expect the Eels to do the same.
Yes and what a f**king joke that was. It was also over a decade ago and the next time a team rorted to such levels they had to shed a heap of talent.
 

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