RenoufPhan
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I agree.That said the kicker should also at least be given an indication of how much time he has left.
They could always find a place for a shot clock somewhere on the scoreboard.
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I agree.That said the kicker should also at least be given an indication of how much time he has left.
Magpie Nick said:If Schifcofske had to change from a mound of sand to a kicking tee so he didn't get fined, El Masri should be able to walk a little faster...
sick of playing the victim, yet?But it could be a big conspiracy by the Roosters to throw El Slowpoke off his kicking, noone has thought of that?
that's exactly what i was going to say - it makes perfect sense. and if u run out of time? then you don't get the kick at goal, simple. short term punishments are much more effective than "down the track" punishments, especially when they're not directly affecting the team.Dogs Of War said:It'd be a fair fine if the kickers has a shot clock, but without one the kicker has no idea how long he has left to take the kick. I'm sure most kickers would hurry their prepartion if they could see they only had 20 seconds left to kick the goal.
i like the idea behind this, after all, we're not playing union here.idea said:I reckon dropkick or AFL style punt kick. 30 seconds max and lets play footy.
rossy said:Clinton was one of the targets behind the new rule and the Raiders have played fair to their detriment and should be commended.
Dogs will be dogs.
Because we have blokes who can kick a ball towards the posts inside 90 seconds.Teams will continue to cop the fine, and the Roosters wouldn't act any different.
melon.... said:A classic example of self preservation.
I wonder how many kiddies will jump up and down at this news. I'll be suprised if any as its nothing to do with the Roosters, and we are on a pro Dirty Dogs website:
$74 a kick
By DEAN RITCHIE
September 1, 2004
HAZEM El Masri has been fined a whopping $10,000 this season by the NRL for slow goalkicking prompting the Bulldogs to call for an overhaul of the controversial 90-second rule.
The Bulldogs' sharpshooter has been nabbed five times at $2000 each for exceeding the goalkicking time limit.
That breaks down to a cost of $74 for every one of his 134 shots at goal this season.
NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley has travelled to Belmore Sports Ground to discuss the situation with El Masri and Bulldogs chief executive Malcolm Noad.
The $10,000 has already been taken out of the Bulldogs' $2.5 million NRL grant.
Nineteen fines have been issued to slow NRL goalkickers, but El Masri is the player easily with the most breach notices.
El Masri has kicked 115 goals from 134 attempts and now wants the rule changed.
He wants additional time for goalkickers who take conversions from between the sideline and 10 metres in from touch.
Noad wants the 90-second deadline moved back to 100 seconds.
"We have taken it up formally with the NRL," Noad said.
"We have also discussed this with Hazem. When a try is awarded on the other side from Hazem's wing and there's no video referee needed, it can take him 10 to 15 seconds just to get to the ball and that's before he has started to line up the kick.
"It is better for Hazem when there is a video replay. It gives him time to get to the ball.
"We've sent a letter to Graham Annesley and the NRL has been quite constructive in our talks.
"I think the rule should be changed to 100 seconds. But we are also encouraging Hazem to take his kicks at goal a little bit quicker," Noad added.
Annesley confirmed he had spoken to El Masri about more time for kickers taking shots from wide out.
"I did go out and meet with Hazem," Annesley said. "He felt there should be more time for kicks wider out than those closer to the goalposts.
"We won't be changing the rules mid-season but it is something we will review. Extending the kicking deadline to 100 seconds is an option."
El Masri and his Bulldogs play the Warriors this Sunday in Auckland with the minor premiership still up for grabs depending on how the Sydney Roosters go against Parramatta.
lotm said:the initiative, i believe, was detrimental to schifcofske's goal-kicking confidence. as a result, we've been forced to change kickers (and now schif's only kicking because of gafa's calf injury).
let sherwin or anasta take the kick. i hear they're extremely competent goal kickers.
also, it's completely unfeasible for the clock to be stopped immediately after the try is awarded.
sick of playing the victim, yet?But it could be a big conspiracy by the Roosters to throw El Slowpoke off his kicking, noone has thought of that?
that's quite an inferiority complex you've got there. better get that checked out.
lotm said::lol: you idiot. :lol: you really think i didn't realise you were being sarcastic? :lol:
regardless, you were, and are constantly, playing the victim.
you're the one constantly whinging that the roosters and their fans are unfairly targetted, and that whenever someone makes a post with even the slightest semblance of anti-roosters sentiment, they're unfairly criticising your team and are jealous of their success.
Chook said:lotm said::lol: you idiot. :lol: you really think i didn't realise you were being sarcastic? :lol:
regardless, you were, and are constantly, playing the victim.
you're the one constantly whinging that the roosters and their fans are unfairly targetted, and that whenever someone makes a post with even the slightest semblance of anti-roosters sentiment, they're unfairly criticising your team and are jealous of their success.
Realising sarcasm and getting it are two separate aspects of the humour. That wooshing sound you often hear, thats you not getting it!
Got it?
Chook.
Sea_Eagles_Rock said:It is so typical. Dogs and Raiders fans whinging about kicks being time limited... However, the only reason it is like that is because both these clubs sold out to News Limited and now have to do as Fox says.
STIFF SH!T!!!
lockyno1 said:The rule is fine! I mean Fitzgibbon seems to be able to kick it within 70 seconds every time whether it be from in front or touch!
Tell me why ElMasri can't. I'm a goalkicker and I do not take any more than 60 seconds to kick a ball. There should be no change at all. Everyone knew of the rule before the season and he should have adjusted his kicking style.