Diving in the NRL.

[Knight76]

Should there be some concern about the diving going on in the NRL?

We certainly aren't at soccer levels, but natural progression of this practice would suggest player learns staying down gets a penalty so...

I fully support the NRL cracking down on head knocks and high shots etc, but it's nearly every game now you see players taking a dive to get the play stopped and for the ref to review it. The ref was fine to play on, wasn't stopping play to award a penalty etc, but the player stays down with his boo boo and the ref calls time off, the vid ref reviews it and it's penalty time.

Kikau one recently was glaringly obvious, gets hit as defender and throws himself on the ground in case a try is scored so he can protest he was taken out. Ball gets spread the other way so he suddenly jumps up and makes a try saving tackle in the other corner.

Crusher tackles are another - Players feel anything remotely crusher like and it's take a dive with hand on back of head time to get the penalty.

Tonights Knights game had one, Sharks player cops a hand to the face in a tackle, stays down to get the review, trainer runs on and does his HIA which of course was fine as nothing wrong with the player. When it was clear no penalty was going to be given, player continues game like no issue with him.

Diving is becoming more and more prevalent in the game. For mine it's becoming a blight on the game.

 

[some11]

How about mandatory stood down for the rest of the game if anything happens to your head.

Maybe rule them out for the week after too just to be sure.

 

[Perth Red]

How about mandatory stood down for the rest of the game if anything happens to your head.

Maybe rule them out for the week after too just to be sure.

as long as it’s a instant red for the perpetrator as well then yeh good idea lol. Not like this would encourage second rate forwards to go head hi t8ng Starbucks eh?

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

as long as it’s a instant red for the perpetrator as well then yeh good idea lol. Not like this would encourage second rate forwards to go head hi t8ng Starbucks eh?

Then players would stay down to get the opposition down to 12 men, wouldn’t they?

 

[soc123_au]

It's frustrating, but it seems that most of the type of players that exploit it now would exploit whatever the solution is. The impossible dream is that the officials would see everything and penalise based on the incident & not the aftermath.

Classic example this weekend was Radley getting binned after Munster gamed the high shot, Momo's hit on Dearden on Thursday night was play on because Deardon hasn't been coached to be a cat yet. Both hits were careless, but neither were forceful enough to cause damage.

 

[Canard]

It's frustrating, but it seems that most of the type of players that exploit it now would exploit whatever the solution is. The impossible dream is that the officials would see everything and penalise based on the incident & not the aftermath.

Classic example this weekend was Radley getting binned after Munster gamed the high shot, Momo's hit on Dearden on Thursday night was play on because Deardon hasn't been coached to be a cat yet. Both hits were careless, but neither were forceful enough to cause damage.

There should be no complaints about that Radley high shot.

That was a text book sin bin offence

 

[gunpk]

I really like watching Kikau play but wish he would cut that sht out from his game.
Built like a brick shithouse and he stays down so often.
He isn't the only one that does it though and I think the officials are partly to blame because the so often you won't get a penalty if you get up.

 

[soc123_au]

There should be no complaints about that Radley high shot.

That was a text book sin bin offence

It's the inconsistency that is the issue. If Munster didn't act dead, then it's penalty only most likely. My point was that the Momo one was similar to Radleys, the difference being one was play on & the other a sin bin. The other difference obviously Munsters reaction compared to Dearden.

 

[Canard]

It's the inconsistency that is the issue. If Munster didn't act dead, then it's penalty only most likely. My point was that the Momo one was similar to Radleys, the difference being one was play on & the other a sin bin. The other difference obviously Munsters reaction compared to Dearden.

I think your assumption that he dove is faulty. A shot to the head from Radley isn't foxy boxing.

Radley faces a fortnight off to back this up

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/04/16/round-6-charges-judiciary-official-announcements/

 

[soc123_au]

I think your assumption that he dove is faulty. A shot to the head from Radley isn't foxy boxing.

Radley faces a fortnight off to back this up

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/04/16/round-6-charges-judiciary-official-announcements/

Momo got the same charge & Dearden just played on. No one is going to know with certainty how much the hit on Munster hurt except him. It did appear to me that he made out the effect was worse than it was, he also has plenty of form in that type of play, which is what the thread is about.

 

[Canard]

Momo got the same charge & Dearden just played on. No one is going to know with certainty how much the hit on Munster hurt except him. It did appear to me that he made out the effect was worse than it was, he also has plenty of form in that type of play, which is what the thread is about.

Care to provide examples of that?

 

[soc123_au]

Care to provide examples of that?

What? Munster playing the refs?

 

[Canard]

What? Munster playing the refs?

No, you being a dickhead?

What do you think mate?

 

[soc123_au]

No, you being a dickhead?

What do you think mate?

Watch a few Storm games. I couldn't be f**ked re watching footage to find examples for you. Start a poll asking if people think Munster is prone to diving or milking. I'd bet that the majority say yes. He isn't alone either. Moses, DCE, Sivo, Kikau and many others do it too.

I didn't have an issue with Radley getting binned either which is what I assume is driving your angst. The thread is about diving, imo Munster is a serial offender. In a lot of cases, like last night another players error opens the door for the dive or milk, but he is always quick to take advantage.

 

[Canard]

Watch a few Storm games. I couldn't be f**ked re watching footage to find examples for you. Start a poll asking if people think Munster is prone to diving or milking. I'd bet that the majority say yes. He isn't alone either. Moses, DCE, Sivo, Kikau and many others do it too.

I didn't have an issue with Radley getting binned either which is what I assume is driving your angst. The thread is about diving, imo Munster is a serial offender. In a lot of cases, like last night another players error opens the door for the dive or milk, but he is always quick to take advantage.

So nothing.

Thanks for the concession.

My point was that only a one eyed Roosters fan would claim that Radley didn't deserve a binning.

 

[soc123_au]

So nothing.

Thanks for the concession.

My point was that only a one eyed Roosters fan would claim that Radley didn't deserve a binning.

Fair enough. The only issue I have with it is that the refs react to what happens from the incident, not the incident itself. I'm not saying it wasn't worthy of the bin, but london to a brick if Munster bounces back to his feet the refs dont bin anyone.

You seriously don't think Munster will take a dive if he thinks it won't give his team an advantage?

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

So nothing.

Thanks for the concession.

My point was that only a one eyed Roosters fan would claim that Radley didn't deserve a binning.

No one is saying he didn’t deserve the sin bin. Merely asking would he have been sent if Munster didn’t go down. More than Roosters fans are asking the same question but hey, we’re being over privileged by asking.

 

[Valheru]

There should be no complaints about that Radley high shot.

That was a text book sin bin offence

As was momorovskis?

 

[Saxon]

As was momorovskis?

Yes, it was absolutely worth a sin bin. Shouldn't blame Munster because Atkins is a f*ckwit and doesn't bin Momo.

 

[Valheru]

Yes, it was absolutely worth a sin bin. Shouldn't blame Munster because Atkins is a f*ckwit and doesn't bin Momo.

Was just asking a question.

He definitely binned him because he believed Munster was going to have to go off the field. That doesn't mean he didn't deserve to be binned. It is what it is.