Do mergers and joint-ventures work?

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Do mergers and joint-ventures work?

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  2. No

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  1. Knuckle-dragger

    Knuckle-dragger Juniors

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    Northern Eagles: Three seasons and no premierships.
    (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles have since won two premierships and the North Sydney Bears no longer compete in the NRL.)

    St George Illawarra Dragons: 20 seasons and one premiership.

    Wests Tigers: 19 seasons and one premiership.
     
  2. mave

    mave First Grade

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    We should merge all 16 teams into 1.
    Then we could win the comp every year.
     
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  3. TheVelourFog

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    what do you mean by work?

    the mergers still exist and have each won a premiership

    so yes?
     
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  4. Pommy

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    This was before my time but weren’t many of these clubs in a bad situations to begin with?
    When did Steelers or West’s last win a title?
     
  5. Vic Mackey

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    Nah, the 1/16th of a tiger they have in them would find a way to lose
     
  6. macavity

    macavity Coach

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    the takeover (StGeo) has worked well.

    the merger has, except for one good run, lurched from one disaster to another. The wrong teams merged - should have been Parra Tigers and Wests Dogs. As it stands, two dysfunctional clubs made one dysfunctional club.
     
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  7. Stallion

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    Different mergers and joint ventures may work relevant to their given circumstance and scenario. It's not an all fits one question. The forced mergers were completely ignorant of historical relevance and fan based loyalties when enforced due to a flawed competition number agreement in 1997. The only one having some synergy has been St George Illawarra Dragons. This joint venture had the same colours, reasonable locality and historical ties with players in past years The others were enforced due to a poor agreement at the end of the superleague split.
     
  8. unforgiven

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    The Wests Tigers merger had reasonable historical relevance, shared historical boundaries, similar colours and was the only true 50/50 merger. For someone who speaks so much about the history of the game you really have a poor understanding of it!
     
  9. Miller was a legend

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    There is stuff all synergy with Illawarra and St George. Like all of these situations it has been an ongoing shit fight for power and jobs for the boys.

    I’d call the whole thing a disaster really, well at least until they piss off the coach and the other old boy cronies in the joint
     
  10. TheFrog

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    There are cronies and factions in clubs that aren't joint ventures as well. Not to mention controversial coach appointments.
     
  11. Miller was a legend

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    I get that, however you are ignoring the point.

    Factions aligned to either side of the merged entities continued to play stupid games based upon power within n the club.

    It has hurt the club, but more so it has hurt the fans / supporters. Currently the place is farked
     
  12. BennyV

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    Disagree - one incompetent club run by dinosaurs only looking out for themselves formed a joint venture with another incompetent club run by dinosaurs only looking out for themselves WITH a low bar for success and no history has created an incompetent superclub run by dinosaurs only looking out for themselves with a low bar for success and some ancient history. And the fans are the ones to suffer for it.
     
  13. Vic Mackey

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    Well since we’ve been around we’ve won the same amount of Premierships as powerhouses Brisbane, Bulldogs, Penrith, Souths, Knights, Cowboys and Sharks

    And one more then Eels, Titans, Warriors, Raiders

    Have also never won a wooden spoon
     
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  14. Stallion

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    Believe it or not at the time Balmain were forced into making a choice between Parramatta or Wests. I sent a letter to Balmain CEO Danny Munk suggesting that the colour mix with Wests (black&white) and Balmain (black &gold ) would be the better option than mixing with the blue and gold of Parramatta. The CEO thanked me for my letter by sending me a letter . A month later Balmain elected to merge with Wests.
     
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  15. Miller was a legend

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    Haha

    Hahaha

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
     
  16. Perth Red

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    Better they had dropped them all to nsw Cup and kept reds, crushers and rams.
     
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    ? Same colours. Players like Lan glands were from the Illawarra? We differ for sure.
     
  18. Miller was a legend

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    Did you ring the CEO and suggest they go with Illawarra for all your good reasons?

    If so dragons fans now have a target
     
  19. Miller was a legend

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    Nice work PR
     
  20. Perth Red

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    Thanks.
     

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