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Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 48.0%
  • No

    Votes: 118 52.0%

  • Total voters
    227

T.S Quint

Coach
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Eyes up footy? F**k rugby league has some dumb terms.

“They’re out on their feet” is one that annoys me a lot. It gets used all the time. I know what it’s meant to mean but it’s stupid.

Also when a team is “at sixes and sevens”. I don’t know where this term even came from.
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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17,379
Of course there's concern. Scraping into the top four through superior coaching doesn't make you a premiership contender. That requires beating the top teams in the finals which means having a strong roster. The evidence of a strong roster is winning often and winning big, which we haven't consistently done since 2005. Here's our for/against compared to the top team every year since 2005:

2005: we had the best differential
2006: -178
2007: -258
2008: -348
2009: -216
2010: -297
2011: -366
2012: -461
2013: -729
2014: -333
2015: -416
2016: -242
2017: -258
2018: -357
2019: -271
2020: -195
2021: -39 (after seven rounds)

The above table shows how comprehensively we've been outclassed by the strongest team in the comp over the past 15+ years. To project our current differential shortfall (a very rough prediction) we are looking at -134 after 24 rounds, which would be the closest we've been to the best team in the competition since 2005.

In the 16 full seasons since 2005 (inclusive) the only premiers with a bigger differential discrepancy were the 2005 Tigers (147 less than the top side) and 2015 Cowboys (158 less).

Of those Top Teams difference, how many were the eventual Premier?
 

Chipmunk

Coach
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17,379
6 (with an asterix against one).

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So around half (7 of 16) the Premiers had a significantly lower (-41 to -158) differential than the team with the best differential.

So you are almost as much chance of winning the comp (7/16th) if you have a significantly lower differential than the team with the best, or close to the best, differential.
 

Gary Gutful

Post Whore
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53,054
So around half (7 of 16) the Premiers had a significantly lower (-41 to -158) differential than the team with the best differential.

So you are almost as much chance of winning the comp (7/16th) if you have a significantly lower differential than the team with the best, or close to the best, differential.
"Significantly lower" is at least 100 difference imo.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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91,637
Yep. During the 23 seasons of the NRL era, the average difference between the best and worst teams has been about 604 points. That's significant. Less than 96 points (4 ppg in a 24 game season) isn't really significant.

During that same period the average number of teams within 96 points of the best team has been 1.7, with the most (five) in 1999. Four times there has been no other team within 96 points of the best team, and on three occasions they were premiers. You'll never guess the one team that shat itself.

Only four times in 23 seasons have the premiers not been within 96 points of the best team, and three of those were before 2006. The 2015 Cowboys were the other. Finally, the premiers have had the best for-and-against in over one third (8/23) of NRL seasons.

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Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
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91,637
And lol, do you know how many times in 23 seasons we've finished within 96 points of the team with the best differential? Three times: 1999 (-48), 2001 (best f/a) and 2005 (also best).
 

Gary Gutful

Post Whore
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53,054
Also, since 1998 the Minor Premiers have won the GF 8 times. The team with the best differential has won the GF 9 times.
 

Poupou Escobar

Post Whore
Messages
91,637
Also, since 1998 the Minor Premiers have won the GF 8 times. The team with the best differential has won the GF 9 times.
No it was eight and eight ffs! But since 2004 the minor premiers have won it five times while the team with the best points differential have won six times.
 

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