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Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

  • Yes

    Votes: 90 54.5%
  • No

    Votes: 75 45.5%

  • Total voters
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Poupou Escobar

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I reckon the key to improving our attack comes from Dylan Brown next year.

Another year of experience, defence top level and a big off/pre season bettering his running game and developing a passing game.

As much as other teams will improve/decline I think this end of year for us has really left us in good stead for season 2022 - bit of a coming of age for the youngsters.
Gus mentioned time spent playing together a few times in that WWOS clip.
 

Poupou Escobar

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What sort of a 6 will he become ?

It seems that we have 3 types in the NRL:-

Munster - big body more like a ball playing forward, up tempo, runs to the line and creates stuff
Wighton - running and tackling 6. Plays a lot like Gutho does by pushing up and backing up.
(Cody) Walker - finesse and money balls galore.
I reckon there's only two types: the second fullback and the second halfback. The type of 6 determines the shape a team attacks in. Increasingly though, teams are preferring the second fullback type, where five years ago it was generally a second halfback in the 6 jersey.
 

Joshuatheeel

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I reckon there's only two types: the second fullback and the second halfback. The type of 6 determines the shape a team attacks in. Increasingly though, teams are preferring the second fullback type, where five years ago it was generally a second halfback in the 6 jersey.
Is that because “locks” are now expected to do some “ball/play” making now…
 

Gary Gutful

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I reckon there's only two types: the second fullback and the second halfback. The type of 6 determines the shape a team attacks in. Increasingly though, teams are preferring the second fullback type, where five years ago it was generally a second halfback in the 6 jersey.
Yeah, it seems that way these days.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Is that because “locks” are now expected to do some “ball/play” making now…
There's definitely a correlation. I just had a look at a sample of middle forwards from round 5 (just to pick a round) of 2016 and compared them with the fifth round of 2021 and found that six middle forwards in round five this year threw 10+ passes (Harris, Trbojevic, Peachey, Jackson, Radley and Brown) while in 2016 the only one was Greg Bird. The game has definitely evolved, and plenty of teams use a number 13 'middle half' now. This is distinct from the 7 (or 6) who plays between split fullback and 'five-eighth' on either side, though as I said, it looks to be connected.
 

Eelogical

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Well as it stands, the flip floppers have flapped slightly back in BA's favour. The sort of soldiers one would would go into battle with?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Well I've been a soldier and an analyst and I can tell you different skills are required for going into battle than for understanding whether an NRL coach is doing a good job.
 

Gazzamatta

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There's definitely a correlation. I just had a look at a sample of middle forwards from round 5 (just to pick a round) of 2016 and compared them with the fifth round of 2021 and found that six middle forwards in round five this year threw 10+ passes (Harris, Trbojevic, Peachey, Jackson, Radley and Brown) while in 2016 the only one was Greg Bird. The game has definitely evolved, and plenty of teams use a number 13 'middle half' now. This is distinct from the 7 (or 6) who plays between split fullback and 'five-eighth' on either side, though as I said, it looks to be connected.
*Seffa Paulo
 

Poupou Escobar

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Definitely a prototype for the modern 13, but only a prototype. Did you know he played 167 games but only one finals match? That was his last ever game in the NRL. He finished his (Australian) career at 30 with a decent WPYSA18 of 6.2
 

Gary Gutful

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I've never known how to read WPYSA18 numbers.

Can you give us a sliding scale showing shit, average and excellent?
 

Poupou Escobar

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It's fairly pointless for younger players with a smaller sample of games. Haas has obviously achieved more than Fotuaika and Kaufusi. His club just hasn't won as many times:

Middle forward born in 1999WPYSA18
Fotuaika6.8
Kaufusi6.4
Haas5.5
Flegler3.9
Baker2.7
Suluka-Fifita2.0
Hola0.9
Hopgood0.7
Greig0.5
 

hineyrulz

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season 15 episode 22 GIF
 

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