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Dragons legend and Immortal John Raper

getsmarty

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January 26 2018 - 7:25AM
Dragons legend and Immortal John Raper fighting dementia
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Left: John Raper, pictured in 1958. Right: Johnny Raper in his Australian jersey in 1967. Pictures: Ern McQuillan


When rugby league's four Immortals were announced in 1981, a special presentation was held at the SCG.

Clive Churchill, John Raper, Reg Gasnier and Bob Fulton were each given a boxed set of vintage port especially created in their honour.

Standing in the middle of the ground where much of their greatness was established, Raper downed his first glass in one gulp.

"Got any more of that?" he asked.

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St George stars Reg Gasnier and Johnny Raper in 1961. Picture: Alan E Funnell

Everyone laughed. Raper was always the life of his party.

According to those who know him well – and you can count them in the millions – Raper has lived his life like it was never going to end. The way life should be lived.

But now it has emerged the legendary St George lock is fighting dementia and has been in permanent care for the past three or four months in a nursing home in Caringbah.

When Dragons teammate and the fifth Immortal Graeme Langlands died in a Sutherland nursing home last weekend, after his own battle with dementia, the thoughts of many former teammates turned to Raper, who won eight grand finals in his side's unprecedented run of 11 premierships in the 1950s and 60s.

The Raper family politely declined to comment when I called them this week, and understandably so at a tough time.

His wife, Carol, regularly visits alongside Raper's former teammate, Johnny Riley.

"No, it's not the Johnny Raper as we'd like to remember him," Riley said.

Former St George wingers Johnny King and Eddie Lumsden have also visited. Raper is in the same home as Dragons halfback Billy Smith, who has been slowed down after the stroke he suffered in 2010 but is still relatively sharp.

"It's hard to not get emotional when you see two of your best mates and they don't know who you are," King said of Langlands and Raper. "I know time catches up with all of us, but when you played alongside them, these great footballers and personalities, you thought they'd live forever."

We all did.

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My favourite story about Langlands actually says more about Smith, but let's tell it anyway. Smith told it to me many years ago.

In 1973, Langlands was the last captain-coach of a touring Australian side of Great Britain.

One morning, Langlands made the players do a road run before returning to their team hotel in the north of England. Smith had a leg injury and didn't want to do it, but Langlands made him do it anyway.

Smith was so slow that when he got back the players and officials were having breakfast in the dining room. Langlands was eating his bacon and eggs right in front of the window.

"So I picked up half a house brick which I found in the gutter, and threw it through the window," Smith recalled. "It landed in Chang's bacon and eggs."

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/...llness-that-claimed-life-of-langlands/?cs=302
 

getsmarty

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League Immortal and Dragons legend John Raper battling dementia
The Daily Telegraph
January 26, 2018 8:03am
RUGBY league ‘Immortal’ John Raper is reportedly suffering dementia.

The 78-year-old St George legend has been receiving care for the condition in a Sydney nursing home for the past three months, according to Fairfax Media.

Regarded as the greatest lock forward to have played the game, Raper was an inaugural ‘Immortal’ inductee in 1981, alongside Clive Churchill, Bob Fulton and Reg Gasnier.

He spent 10 years at the Dragons from 1959, winning eight-straight first-grade premierships and playing 39 times for Australia.

Fellow ‘Immortal’ Graeme Langlands died last week after several years battling Alzheimer’s disease, the most common form of dementia.

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Legend John Raper waves to fans at revamped at Kogarah Oval.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...a/news-story/64ef2fe87ccd7ebe39fe702c92f248be
 

Coffs dragon

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So very sad indeed! Nobody is immortal and perhaps it is time for the NRL to change the title and reinstate The Legends Hall of Fame. Chook, Chang, Puff and Sticks all honorary members of the highest order.
A very sad week for us long term fans of the mighty Dragons. May God bless you Chook Raper and take care of a great Saint.
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

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Too much sadness in one week . It is a horrible thought to realise that even giants made of steel will rust with time .

Mate, the way some of the greats lived their lives to the full probably fair to say that they have been fortunate enough to have survived to their senior age.
Chang, Smithy and Raper really lived it up for many a year and good luck to them.
I know Chang drove his car ‘full as a boot’ out of the club one night and drove it straight up the back of a parked car serval hundred metres up the highway.
I’m sure someone has been watching over them for many a year.

Sadly, we all come to a stage in life that is both challenging for the person and the family.

It’s situations like these that highlight the need to enjoy and respect life and those around us, as we live it.
 

BennyV

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Had the pleasure of meeting John a few years ago, my dad and I had lunch with him and his son Stewart. Had some great stories about the old England tours they used to go on, and had some very strong words about the great St George team he used to play in and the respect, trust and comraderie that ran through that team. Wasn't long after Reg Gasnier passed and John got very emotional talking about him, said Reg was the single greatest player to ever lace a boot and he could be playing in the modern era and still be the best in the world. He was definitely losing it a bit back then too.

Stewart had some killer stories about NSW camps of the early noughties too!
 

Gareth67

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One of my favourites was the Raper - Smith - King combination.

The Saints would win the scrum at around the 25 yard mark , with Billy Smith running the ball to the open side before neatly flicking a pass back to Raper who had just broken from the scrum who proceeded to the short side , drawing in the opposition winger before passing the ball to Johnny King who would go in for the try unopposed .

They caught teams out on numerous occasions with that play and really sent the St.George fans into raptures with the simplicity of the move . Great players , great days , for all rugby league fans
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

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This is sad news indeed.

When reading this it wasn't hard for my mind to drift back on Chook's cover tackle technique around the legs....poetry in motion, sheer copybook and just maybe patentable!

Very true, SD.
If only they tought players today how to copybook tackle.
If they did away with 3 man tackles and relied on tackling skill rather than muscle to tackle, the game would see a lot more action.
 

blacksafake

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Very true, SD.
If only they tought players today how to copybook tackle.
If they did away with 3 man tackles and relied on tackling skill rather than muscle to tackle, the game would see a lot more action.
Exactly
Unfortunately it’s all about the wrestle these days. Even when coaches & players talk all they say is we won or lost the wrestle :frowning2:
 

possm

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One of the best locks the game has seen, Raper's cover defence was a real treat to watch. No second tackle needed when Raper was cutting down a rampaging forward or a block busting opposition centre. Raper cut them all down with legs tackles that stopped them in their track and to make things even better, he jumped to his feet to take up the marker position in order to mitigate a roll-on after the tackle. For me Langlands, Raper and Gasnier were our big 3.
 

Seoul Dragon

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One of the best locks the game has seen, Raper's cover defence was a real treat to watch. No second tackle needed when Raper was cutting down a rampaging forward or a block busting opposition centre. Raper cut them all down with legs tackles that stopped them in their track and to make things even better, he jumped to his feet to take up the marker position in order to mitigate a roll-on after the tackle. For me Langlands, Raper and Gasnier were our big 3.

Absolutely! His tackle technique and committment were superb and the effectiveness second to none.
 

Old Timer

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For a 2nd job I used to work at Harold Park trots running a bar / restaurant.
Chook would be there sometimes and I had on occasions put him in a cab to get him home safe and sound.
In 2006 I was in Brisbane for work in my real job and was trying to get a table at a restaurant that was packed and I was having no luck.
Chook was on a table with Quayle and a hole lot of other notables and I asked the waiter if he minded if I went over to say hello and the waiter said, ok but it wouldn't help because they were full booked.
I went over, said high to Chook and quickly reminisced about Harold Park and the next minute Chook insisted the waiter organise a table right behind him for me and my 3 friends.
Of course the waiter had no option but to comply and we had a nice night and Chook came over and had a beer with us which was great.
He said he was happy to help out as I had bothered to come over and say hi and I genuinely believe that was the case.
Such a great footballer and very sad that all these heroes of my childhood days at the SCG & KJO are proving to be so mortal.
Unfortunately we will only here more sad news in the years ahead but it is great that people recall so vividly the deeds and special moments of these giants of the game and are willing to share those moments on the forum.
 

dragonssamy61

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Thanks guys for the memories of rhe greatest era of any sport in Australia.
The dragons goldern era.
I was only 4 when that finished.
But heard a lot about it for my dad ect.
Have meet Chook he was true legend.
Thanks for the memories.
 

Life's Good

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Great reading through a few of the memories here. Raper was part of a phenomenal era for our club that simply be impossible to repeat.
I am sure he will get the care he needs and is able to live out the rest of his years in great comfort.
 

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