English version of whatever happened...

[Mal Meninga]

Ben Cohen
Richard Hill
Phil Vickery

Haven't heard much of these 3 blokes at all, whatever happened to them, especially Cohen?

 

[douglasallen91]

Ben Cohen
Richard Hill
Phil Vickery

Haven't heard much of these 3 blokes at all, whatever happened to them, especially Cohen?

cohen is hopeless now and is struggling to keep a spot in his club team (newcastle?)

hill was in the lions squad but got injured in one of the tests (first one i think)

vickory i think has retired.

 

[aussies1st]

Cohen has the size but once he got dropped by the English he has struggled to hit form again.

 

[Mal Meninga]

With Robinson now retiring, does Cohen have a shot of regaining his spot for England?

 

[CanadianSteve]

I watched some tapes of the 03 RWC recently, and wasn't that impressed by Cohen even then, when he was presumably in form. He was big, strong and fast as a wing, but seemed to me to lack agility. He rarely beat the first tackler. I'm not surprised he has faded from the England team since then.

 

[Jackal Dog]

Hill is over the hill excuse the pun
Vickery who cares?
And Cohen reminds me of an English Francis Meli looks all big and mean but can't defend for sh*t.

While we are on the subject of players in the wilderness, I might as well add a few:

Bobby Skinstad
Troy Flavell
Brian Lima
Thinus Delport
Daniel Luger

Skinstad, Flavell and Luger in particular.

 

[Polynesian Warrior]

I don't think you can call players playing in japan "players in the wildness" because you don't hear much news from Japan rugby .

Brian Lima and Troy Flavell were playing in Japan . Brian just sign for Bristols and Flavell is thinking of returning to NZ .

 

[Iafeta]

Troy Flavell will probably be back next year in New Zealand, perhaps with the Crusaders.

Graham Henry has high hopes on him, if they could take the meat head side of it out he might be right.

There's been a number of players that one asks WTF happened to them - Steinmetz, O'Hallaran, Pita Alatini, Charles Reichelmann, Chresten Davis, Paul Thompson - players who achieved international status or were at one stage or another in some sort of consideration, I'd assume all went overseas?

 

[Mal Meninga]

Yeah Skinstad was a hardnut, where's he gone?

 

[Manu Vatuvei]

Brian Lima is hardly in the wilderness, he is about 32 or 33 and still going strong.