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everybody loves Raymond (Faitala Mariner)

True_Believer

Juniors
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And just like that, predictable and boring to dangerous and flamboyant.

Im loving the defence and cheering about the attack.

Loved watching Raymond throwing the last pass for tries for Sloan two games in a row. The whole team feeding off each other, hoping for more of this.

Luc will only add to this. The variety of try’s is encouraging. Flanno kicked for Hunt to score, Flanno dummied and went on his own, hunt kick for himself, Rav and Suli crashing over, Liddle dangerous, Bird a handful, Sloan popping up everywhere, anything in the air is a risk with the acrobatic Lomax.
It's bodies in motion too. There's decoys and movement everywhere. If you look at the stats, we are prominent in most - both halves are in the top 5 for taking the line on. 2 of the others are the Panthers halves. Sloans topping the tries, Zacs topping the run meters and PCMs, Eisenhuth has the most Decoy runs etc. We are representing in areas we were abysmal in last year. I know it's only game one, but these are key areas for the team to be good at and it's a great start. It's taking away that one dimensional attack and providing the team with attacking options.
 

st.phil

Bench
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I spotted that too,
He was impressed with the last twenty minutes because they won the second half, or had equal tries or some bullshit

Dude you f**king lost
Gould must be starting to think he pulled the wrong rein - could have had flanno, madge, wolfe but signed the wunderkid for 5 years on big bucks. He'll be too stubborn to boot him so watch the assistant coaches mass up
 

TheRev

Coach
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I think I'll wait till at least mid-season to judge Gould or the Bulldogs.. He will get them some props & possibly a halfback at some point also.. he's not done recruiting... he never stops...

If there is a criticism it might be that there are so many damn options that its very hard for Ciraldo to actually pick the right bloke in the right position.. and hes going to have a few cranky new recruits in the process... seeing that would make me very happy.
 

AyiosYiorgos

Coach
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I think I'll wait till at least mid-season to judge Gould or the Bulldogs.. He will get them some props & possibly a halfback at some point also.. he's not done recruiting... he never stops...

If there is a criticism it might be that there are so many damn options that its very hard for Ciraldo to actually pick the right bloke in the right position.. and hes going to have a few cranky new recruits in the process... seeing that would make me very happy.
As much as it pains me, the dogs will be a force in a few years, they have a shitload of good "external juniors" coming through, i think in a few years time the Saints v Bulldogs games will be blockbusters..
 

Victoire

Juniors
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1,108


The Kiwi International only arrived at the club in February after being released by Canterbury just one-year into a three-year contract extension he signed at Belmore midway through 2022.
His departure after nine years with the club came amid reports of a rift with coach Cameron Ciraldo, and Dogs supremo Phil Gould.

Faitala-Mariner has repeatedly denied those assertions but, having featured in all four Dragons game this season, said the switch has seen him recapture his love for the game under Shane Flanagan. "It's just a breath of fresh air," Faitala-Mariner told the Mercury.
"I'd been at the previous club for eight or nine years. It's a long time and that's all you know. "To see something new and to be around a different environment and different personalities, under an experienced coach too, it's definitely refreshing my mind and my heart.
"Just being in the position the club is in, everything is new. Going through what you could say is a rebuilding of the club under a new coach, I knew I'd love to be a part of it.
"I can use my experience to help nurture these young boys coming through and showing them what it means to be a first-grader, how to train as a first grader, and what professionalism looks like.
"It's an opportunity to utilise my experience where it can be used. I've found a new love for the game again and hopefully I can repay the favour to the Dragons for showing their faith in me."

It's a leadership role the Samoan International takes seriously, particularly with host of young stars with Pasifika heritage coming through the club's ranks expected to make their presence felt in the NRL over the next few seasons.
"There are more Tongans than Samoans here so, after the next couple of weeks, I'll consider myself as a half-Tongan in this team," he joked. "But there is a good connection there. I came to the club thinking that there weren't many Islander boys, but there are a lot of young Islander boys coming through and, for me, I have a heart for my people.
"I'm still trying to see where I can be used to help these young fellas come through, especially the young Polynesian boys because I know what they're going through.
"The mindset, the support and the family, it can be a bit much at times, so hopefully I can be there to guide them and to give them a bit of wisdom here and there."

The arrival of the 119-game NRL veteran alongside fellow late acquisition Luciano Leilua has already made the Dragons a newly formidable prospect up front, but Faitala-Mariner feels a new-look power-running pack has only scratched the surface 4/5 over the opening month.
"I know it's only round five, but I still feel that our pack in particular has a lot more to offer," Faitala-Mariner said. "We're still trying to find our feet and get into a flow of things with a lot of latecomers like myself and Luch. We do have a lot of good experienced boys like Jake de Belin, and really cool heads like Tom Eisenhuth and Blake Lawrie leading the way.
"Flano knows what he's doing and it's about playing to each other's strengths. My weaknesses might be someone else's strength and it's about putting it together and how we can play together.
"Maybe we fell into the trap of things going good in preseason and round one and we thought it was just going to happen for us, but last week we just had a focus on ourselves and building that belief and that trust.
"We saw out there in the game [against Manly] that having a foundation like that can turn things around. Hopefully we can build on that and string a few more wins together in the next couple of weeks."

Having featured on the edge through the Dragons first three games, Faitala-Mariner shifted to the middle of the park in last week's win over the Sea Eagles, starting at lock with Eisenhuth reverting to the bench. Flanagan may pull the same switch this week against Newcastle, but Faitala-Mariner's rare middle-edge versatility leaves him happy to play either role if called upon.
"It shows my versatility that I can play on the edge or in the middle, so I think it's a good asset to have," he said. "If someone goes down on the edge, I can cover that. If we have both edges in Luch and Jaydn (Su'A) healthy to play I can go in the middle.
"I think it's a mindset thing. I really need to change my mindset going from edge to middle because the middle is a different beast. There's not as much decision making, but there's a lot of repeat efforts there in the middle.

"For me, it's just doing what's best for the team. I just want to win."
 

TruSaint

Referee
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The Kiwi International only arrived at the club in February after being released by Canterbury just one-year into a three-year contract extension he signed at Belmore midway through 2022.
His departure after nine years with the club came amid reports of a rift with coach Cameron Ciraldo, and Dogs supremo Phil Gould.

Faitala-Mariner has repeatedly denied those assertions but, having featured in all four Dragons game this season, said the switch has seen him recapture his love for the game under Shane Flanagan. "It's just a breath of fresh air," Faitala-Mariner told the Mercury.
"I'd been at the previous club for eight or nine years. It's a long time and that's all you know. "To see something new and to be around a different environment and different personalities, under an experienced coach too, it's definitely refreshing my mind and my heart.
"Just being in the position the club is in, everything is new. Going through what you could say is a rebuilding of the club under a new coach, I knew I'd love to be a part of it.
"I can use my experience to help nurture these young boys coming through and showing them what it means to be a first-grader, how to train as a first grader, and what professionalism looks like.
"It's an opportunity to utilise my experience where it can be used. I've found a new love for the game again and hopefully I can repay the favour to the Dragons for showing their faith in me."

It's a leadership role the Samoan International takes seriously, particularly with host of young stars with Pasifika heritage coming through the club's ranks expected to make their presence felt in the NRL over the next few seasons.
"There are more Tongans than Samoans here so, after the next couple of weeks, I'll consider myself as a half-Tongan in this team," he joked. "But there is a good connection there. I came to the club thinking that there weren't many Islander boys, but there are a lot of young Islander boys coming through and, for me, I have a heart for my people.
"I'm still trying to see where I can be used to help these young fellas come through, especially the young Polynesian boys because I know what they're going through.
"The mindset, the support and the family, it can be a bit much at times, so hopefully I can be there to guide them and to give them a bit of wisdom here and there."

The arrival of the 119-game NRL veteran alongside fellow late acquisition Luciano Leilua has already made the Dragons a newly formidable prospect up front, but Faitala-Mariner feels a new-look power-running pack has only scratched the surface 4/5 over the opening month.
"I know it's only round five, but I still feel that our pack in particular has a lot more to offer," Faitala-Mariner said. "We're still trying to find our feet and get into a flow of things with a lot of latecomers like myself and Luch. We do have a lot of good experienced boys like Jake de Belin, and really cool heads like Tom Eisenhuth and Blake Lawrie leading the way.
"Flano knows what he's doing and it's about playing to each other's strengths. My weaknesses might be someone else's strength and it's about putting it together and how we can play together.
"Maybe we fell into the trap of things going good in preseason and round one and we thought it was just going to happen for us, but last week we just had a focus on ourselves and building that belief and that trust.
"We saw out there in the game [against Manly] that having a foundation like that can turn things around. Hopefully we can build on that and string a few more wins together in the next couple of weeks."

Having featured on the edge through the Dragons first three games, Faitala-Mariner shifted to the middle of the park in last week's win over the Sea Eagles, starting at lock with Eisenhuth reverting to the bench. Flanagan may pull the same switch this week against Newcastle, but Faitala-Mariner's rare middle-edge versatility leaves him happy to play either role if called upon.
"It shows my versatility that I can play on the edge or in the middle, so I think it's a good asset to have," he said. "If someone goes down on the edge, I can cover that. If we have both edges in Luch and Jaydn (Su'A) healthy to play I can go in the middle.
"I think it's a mindset thing. I really need to change my mindset going from edge to middle because the middle is a different beast. There's not as much decision making, but there's a lot of repeat efforts there in the middle.

"For me, it's just doing what's best for the team. I just want to win."

What a refreshing outlook.

Great read.
 

AyiosYiorgos

Coach
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14,176
You just have to look at their lower grades, they are building from there, much like the Penrith model, hopefully we can do the same.
Yeap they invested in a lot of juniors from QLD/NZ etc signed them up and bring them down, when they have finished their schooling etc, made changes in the front office, trying to get everyone on the same page and working for the common goal, brought in some good talent and alot of solid first graders, who can be easily moved on when these juniors come through, they're not far from competing for top top6 on a constant basis.
 

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