Expansion / Relocation.....

[Lantana]

These guys aren't bothered about chucking their teams around until the mix is right!!!!
Admittedly the population can handle it. Also if teams get 3 MILLION people through the gate PER YEAR then anything is possible (Cubs & Giants)

NATIONAL LEAGUE (1876-present)
1876 - National League officially formed with eight franchises
Boston; Chicago; Cincinnati; Hartford; Louisville; New York; Philadelphia; St. Louis

1877 - Philadelphia and New York expelled from National League

1878 - Louisville dropped out of National League

1878 - National League admitted three franchises in Providence, Indianapolis and Milwaukee for 1878 season

1878 - Indianapolis resigned from National League

1878 - National League admitted three franchises in Syracuse, Buffalo and Cleveland for 1879 season

1879 - National League expanded with a franchise in Troy, New York for 1879 season

1880 - Cincinnati expelled from National League; Detroit joined National League for 1881 season

1880 - Syracuse dropped out of National League; replaced by Worcester

1882 - Troy and Worcester were removed from National League; replaced by Philadelphia and New York

1885 - Cleveland dropped out of National League; replaced by St. Louis

1886 - Washington, D.C. and Kansas City admitted to National League; replaced Buffalo and Providence

1887 - St. Louis relocated to Indianapolis

1887 - Kansas City dropped out of National League; replaced by Pittsburgh

1888 - Detroit resigned from National League; replaced by Cleveland

1890 - Brooklyn and Cincinnati joined National League; replaced Indianapolis and Washington, D.C.

1892 - National League expanded with franchises in St. Louis, Washington, D.C., Louisville and Baltimore

1900 - National League contracted four franchises: Louisville, Baltimore, Washington, D.C. and Cleveland

1953 - Boston Braves relocated to Milwaukee

1958 - Brooklyn Dodgers relocated to Los Angeles

1958 - New York Giants relocated to San Francisco

1962 - National League expanded with franchises in New York and Houston

1966 - Milwaukee Braves relocated to Atlanta

1969 - National League expanded with franchises in Montreal, Canada and San Diego

1993 - National League expanded with franchises in Denver, Colorado and Miami, Florida

1998 - Milwaukee Brewers moved to National League from American League

1998 - National League expanded with a franchise in Phoenix, Arizona

2005 - Montreal Expos relocated to Washington, D.C.

AMERICAN LEAGUE (1901-present)

1901 - American League officially organized with eight franchises
Baltimore; Boston; Chicago; Cleveland; Detroit; Milwaukee; Philadelphia; Washington, D.C.

1902 - Milwaukee Brewers relocated to St. Louis and became the Browns

1903 - Baltimore Orioles relocated to New York and became the Yankees

1953 - St. Louis Browns relocated to Baltimore and became the Orioles

1954 - Philadelphia Athletics relocated to Kansas City

1961 - Washington Senators relocated to Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota and became the Twins

1961 - American League expanded with franchises in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C.

1967 - Kansas City Athletics relocated to Oakland

1969 - American League expanded with franchises in Kansas City and Seattle

1970 - Seattle Pilots relocated to Milwaukee and became the Brewers

1972 - Washington Senators relocated to Arlington, Texas and became the Rangers

1977 - American League expanded with franchises in Toronto, Canada and Seattle

1998 - Milwaukee Brewers moved to the National League

1998 - American League expanded with

 

[BuffaloRules]

WTF?

 

[gregstar]

wrong forum surely!

 

[Lantana]

I was outlining what the MLB have been through with expansion and relocation.

f**k me if expansion/relocation isn't the biggest issue to hit Rugby League this year.

I was mearly showing how many times these guys have sent clubs to different cities etc.

Sure we can look favourably on having a Sydney team being relocated for the greater good of the game instead of running into pseudo committees who come out from their rock everytime relocation is mentioned.

Apologies for not explaining in the original post.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Yeah, but aren't these all privately owned teams completely at their owners whim when a different city comes to them and says " move your team to our city and we will build you a new $300 million dollar stadium"??

 

[bartman]

What is MLB?

Surely it is run muich differently with different levels of resources and TV coverage?

 

[hrundi99]

Major League Baseball (tm)

Yes it is different. One team cities also have a different appeal.

It's not appropriate to compare.

 

[PJ]

Also just about every kid in the US has exposure, if not participation, in some form of the game.

Yuo can't say that about any of our winter sports and particularly not Rugby League.

Ridiculous arguement.

 

[Generalissimo Stalin]

the expansion that should occur is this

1) Sharks merge with Souths
2) Melbourne relocates to the Gold Coast
3) Wests/ Tigers split up
4) Parramatta merge with Penrith
5) Wests merge with Bulldogs
6) Manly merge with Balmain
7) Central Coast Admitted

12 team comp - 22 games - 3 weeks off for origin and 5 week finals series

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

the expansion that should occur is this

1) Sharks merge with Souths
2) Melbourne relocates to the Gold Coast
3) Wests/ Tigers split up
4) Parramatta merge with Penrith
5) Wests merge with Bulldogs
6) Manly merge with Balmain
7) Central Coast Admitted

12 team comp - 22 games - 3 weeks off for origin and 5 week finals series

That is quite possibly the most insane post I have ever read at LU.

7 points to alienating 60% of Rugby League supporters.

 

[shiznit]

the expansion that should occur is this

1) Sharks merge with Souths
2) Melbourne relocates to the Gold Coast
3) Wests/ Tigers split up
4) Parramatta merge with Penrith
5) Wests merge with Bulldogs
6) Manly merge with Balmain
7) Central Coast Admitted

12 team comp - 22 games - 3 weeks off for origin and 5 week finals series

hahaha i cant see any of that happening.
and lets just say for arguments sake they decided to make drasctic changes to the comp.
1) if souths were to merge with anyone surely they would merge with the roosters.
2)Melbourne wont be being relocated anywhere in a hurry.
3)the only way wests and balmain would split would be if they could get stand alone as there own clubs.
4)theres no way in hell parra will ever merge with penrith.
5)im not too sure how wests feel but with the talent comming through the wests tigers lately i cant see them breaking up the joint venture unless they are getting individual status.
6)i dont think anyone would want to merge with manly
7)probably the only point i think could happen.

 

[edabomb]

Plus how is a 5 week finals series gonna work with 12 teams??? Are 10 teams going to qualify for the finals???? :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[simostorm]

12 teams would be utter rubbish.
No more merging of teams either, thats just stupid.
People are forgetting that when the TV rights are re-signed for more money, then the nrl will be able to sustain 15-16 teams fine.

 

[t-ba]

:lol: . Ahh Stalin. Easts have proven in the past just how shonky their supporter base is in the hard times.

1) Sydney United (Easts, Souths, Balmain)
2) Northern Eagles (*Shudder*)
3) Saint Coast Steel Sharks
4) Western Bulldogs
5) Parramatta Panthers

Now that's a f*cked up Sydney.

 

[Vicious]

Being a Magpie fan i`m not all that keen on this idea,but I can see it happening:
Souths merge with the Sharks-----South Sydney Sharks
Parramatta merge with Balmain-----Parramatta Tigers
Bulldogs merge with Wests-----West Sydney Bulldogs
You can then add the Central Coast Bears,Gold Coast Dolphins and the
Wellington Orcres to make an even 16 teams.Plans could then be made to eventually have Perth and Adelaide re-enter along with possibly a team from Christchurch NZ and a second Brisbane team if it means evening up the numbers.
The NRL could then change it`s name to the Australasian Rugby League and Rugby League could be well on it`s way to becoming a much more global sport.

 

[hrundi99]

I'm sorry but can we just shutup about expansion for the moment.

We have our GF on Sunday.

Let's concentrate on that, yeah?

Please?

8)

 

[Man_of_Steel_1982]

I don't think mergers should even be wished upon your biggest enemy.

The question needs to be asked. Would people rather their team be relocated or would they rather merge?

I'd much prefer to see my team maintain it's history and identity even if it meant it was on the other side of the country. At least it would still exist and at the same time be doing a great thing for the game itself.

So if you had to choose between merging or relocating, which would it be?

 

[t-ba]

Relocation. To Pittwater Rugby Park :lol:

 

[pantherdan]

the expansion that should occur is this

1) Sharks merge with Souths
2) Melbourne relocates to the Gold Coast
3) Wests/ Tigers split up
4) Parramatta merge with Penrith
5) Wests merge with Bulldogs
6) Manly merge with Balmain
7) Central Coast Admitted

12 team comp - 22 games - 3 weeks off for origin and 5 week finals series

Yeah....or NOT

 

[tUp]

the expansion that should occur is this

1) Sharks merge with Souths
2) Melbourne relocates to the Gold Coast
3) Wests/ Tigers split up
4) Parramatta merge with Penrith
5) Wests merge with Bulldogs
6) Manly merge with Balmain
7) Central Coast Admitted

12 team comp - 22 games - 3 weeks off for origin and 5 week finals series

what are you smoking?