Flanno assistant coach,,...?

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  1. jak

    jak Juniors

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    if you blink you will miss it.
     
  2. SEAT 1A

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    A tad brutal however, at last an incoming coach with the correct mind set. The boys looked like lost souls this year with no direction. Hopefully, he can give them something to buy into.

    Blind Freddy can past the " we are all hurting " offered by the current mob.
     
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  3. Russell Crowe's Band

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    I am perplexed by a lot if this

    Has back after a year. After his Indefinite ban.
    The club was fined huge. But half suspended.
    Now he's back.
    What was the point?

    Seems as long as you don't piss in your mouth all sins can be forgiven.
    He will improve the dragons
    Has some unorthodox methods tho.
     
  4. denis preston

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    I applaud his appointment and hope the club is serious in moving on from Mcgregor. Cant see how the NRL will determine what the head coach v ass coach line in the sand is. Ass coach to me just about can do everything other than front the press.The issue on the side improving that much next year that Mary's job is safe doesn't hold water to me either.The vast improvement will have one common denominator and even galoots like Crawly will know who is responsible.
     
  5. BLM01

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    Mary can consider himself lucky to be there come March 2020
    Every single problem the players point out themselves and other people now constantly point out in the media in regards to team performance, player selection, juniors and others getting game time leads back to 1 person.....
    who is appointed in a majority or maybe unaninous vote from the board
     
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  6. getsmarty

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    2019 Review: St George Illawarra Dragons
    Justin Davies | October 22 2019 2:30PM
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    The Dragons in 2019 were a car crash on the highway which you couldn't take your eyes off - and ended with their worst finish in the National Rugby League era in 15th.

    They mustered just eight victories in a season which was only slightly better than a visit to the dentist to get a root canal. The constant chopping and changing of the side only exacerbated the sorrow that befell Dragons fans and heighted the calls for ‘Fail Mary', leaving more questions than answers for a side that considers itself a competitive one.

    A pair of losses in the opening fortnight to Cowboys and Rabbitohs largely set the tone for the season. There was a brief heartbeat with four-straight wins to follow, but 2019 quickly turned into a forgettable mess for the joint venture side. Losses piled up higher than the protest banners which started to appear on the hills at Jubilee and WIN, and the Dragons lost what should have been the backbone to a successful season - their defence - as they conceded the third most points in the competition (575).

    Their late season successes against the Titans which kept them from a first wooden spoon were met with a huge chorus of meh as the season was euthanized mercifully in front of a sparse crowd in Robina which was fitting for the NRL's two worst sides.

    Headed into 2020 and his sixth full season as Dragons coach, Paul McGregor has a huge task ahead of him. The former Dragon might have taken the side to its tipping point and he will need a ferocious start to next season to quell the dissenting voices around the club. 2019 needs to be the rock bottom for the Red V, and not the continuation of a malaise which has spread around the club.

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    Turning Point
    After back-to-back losses to open the season, Dragons reeled off four straight victories - their largest streak of the season - which included a pair of Golden Point field goals from Corey Norman and it looked like another top eight season for the Dragons. Alas, this review would still be a week or two away had that been the case. From there, they lurched from thrashing to thrashing with the low point a 45-12 loss in Mudgee to the Knights, in what was a season of dreading turning on the TV on weekends. Plenty might blame the drama which unfolded over the off-season but all considered, the Dragons had a roster that wasn't a 15th place finisher and there has already and will be pressure on Paul McGregor headed in 2020 to get them back to competitive and possibly top eight.

    What worked
    Only saved by the ignominy of the wooden spoon by the Gold Coast Titans, there wasn't much that worked this season for St George Illawarra. Plenty of reputations and egos were bruised by the Dragons work in 2019 and there will be a huge repair job on next season. The year worked in a sense that Dragons it might have been a rock bottom for a side that deluded itself with designs of competitiveness and now, can rebuild themselves into a contender which might not take long in the National Rugby League.

    What didn't work
    The simplistic answer would be to say everything and clock off for the day. Looking deeper - the Dragons tried to get too extra. Ben Hunt, off-season recruit Corey Norman and Gareth Widdop all tried to fit three into two for the halves which ended with a mix-and-match style before Widdop went down injured. They averaged 17.8 points (including tries from kicks) but outside of beating Bulldogs and Titans handily twice each, Dragons went past 20 points TWICE all season. The backline continued to age and the fullback position also became a poisoned chalice with a forward pack that still boasted plenty of representative experience but without Jack De Belin, there wasn't enough grunt to push past teams like 2018. In the end, a simplistic game plan with a tinker man at the helm, the Dragons didn't know what they were in 2019 and it showed in their performance and final deserved ladder position.

    Best Players
    Picking through the wreckage of the Dragons season - there wasn't much in the way of performances for the joint venture to savour. Luciano Leilua, took another step in his growth, the interchange forward sparked a side that had trouble moving the ball. Outside of that, there were consistent performances from Paul Vaughan, Cameron McInnes and sporadic work including a bunch of tries from Mikaele Ravalawa kept them afloat in a rough season.

    Rookies
    Tristian Sailor will be the name that is remembered from the Dragons rookie class of 2019. The son of former Dragon Wendell Sailor debuted in against the eventual Premiers Sydney Roosters in Round 23, scoring a try at fullback and might have started to regenerate their backline. Jackson Ford brought some late-season energy to the forward pack in his five appearances with a four-pointer to boot in a lean class for the famous Red V.

    NRLW
    Finishing bottom of the four-team competition last year, the Dragons made a huge splash in their recruitment to bring across a handful of the Broncos premiership winning side alongside Blues half Maddie Studdon which got them to a first Grand Final - a 30-6 loss to Brisbane. Centre Jessica Sergis was named Dally M Female Player of the Year as the NRLW competition continues to grow from strength to strength each year.

    Lower Grades Recap
    NSWRL Canterbury Cup
    The Dragons NSW Cup side gave fans something to cheer about in September. They won the minor premiership with a side packed with NRL experience and some youthful talent on the edges headlined by Tristian Sailor. Dragons pipped the Rabbitohs on the last day for first place, then proceeded to take a direct line into the preliminary final with an extra-time success against the 4th-placed Bulldogs.

    In the precursor to the big dance, Dragons fell victim to the rugby league version of the Mighty Ducks that were Newtown Jets, who went on to win the Canterbury Cup-State Championship double.

    NSWRL U20 Jersey Flegg Cup
    St George Illawarra's U20 side had a fairly average season, sneaking into 8th place and playing in an Elimination Final. They lost that final to eventual premiers South Sydney.

    2020 Chances
    Knives are already sharpened for Dragons coach Paul McGregor so he needs to get his side off to a fast start in 2020. The roster still contains plenty of experience and talent for the Dragons which might move them to fringe top eight side but some major signings are needed to get them playing football that can compete in the NRL but ultimately, it will fall on their halves once again to keep their head above water or quickly they will be burnt again.


    https://leagueunlimited.com/news/34275-2019-review-st-george-illawarra-dragons/

    P.S thanks Dragonslayer
     
  7. Old Kogarah Boy 1

    Old Kogarah Boy 1 First Grade

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    Ray Charles would improve our clubs vision............. throw in Stevie Wonder and Blind Freddy and our future's so bright, we need to wear shades!

    Seriously, the nrl manipulate anything & everything to suit their agenda.......... nothing more.
    There is no hard & fast rules or regulations with this mob. When you've had the likes of Beattie steering the ship, a crash course in navagation in meaningless.

    Meanwhile, we Dragons fans will accept any loose change or Maestro to make us competitive again.
     
  8. Old Kogarah Boy 1

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    Thanks as always for you efforts, GS.

    Some telling points there.
    Widdop leading points scorer ................ yet, missed most of the season.
    Aitken most games ......................... yet was a very average player overall.
    Norman most try assists ............... yet seemed to be going at 3/4 pace all year.

    Overall, as we all know, a shocking year where the blame lies directly at McGregor for his inept coaching methods AND Brian Johnston, for renewing & extending his contract.

    A sackable offence indeed.
     
  9. BLM01

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    And Norman missed 1/4 of round games and still led the try assists
     
  10. possm

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    Mary is no survivor, the old boys are keeping to the deals made and can't afford for a deal to be broken. Mary is there at the will of the old boys club, nothing to do with him being a survivor.
     
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  11. possm

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    The only way our club can rise from the doldrums without the prying eyes of the NRL launching an investigation, is to replace Mary with a first grade coach. My preference is Brown as head coach with Flanagan as assistant coach. It is so simple that it is a real wonder why the Board can't see this.
     
  12. BLM01

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    So simple that the board can see that Brown was punted from Newcastle via player power.
    Not a glowing endorsement....rather have Millward :oops:... sorry I meant Young...no...I mean Ryles....no he is an old boy too..bloody hell
    How about Kimmorley?...he nearly played for us!
     
  13. possm

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    Well if it can't be Brown, then Griffen, Toovey or JD.
     
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  14. TruSaint

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    Your definition of survivor must be different to mine.

    He's been here since 2014. Next year will be his seventh year, longest serving coach for the JV, and one of the longest in the entire Dragons history.

    He has manipulated TWO extensions.

    The Old Boys as you say, signed off on his contracts, and they are morons for doing so, but to suggest Mary hasnt proven himself to be a survivor by using every resource at his disposal, from media, to players, etc flys in the face of logic.

    I cannot think of any present day coach to be granted a tenure of 7 years plus, with results like his.

    He is a survivor alright. Ask any current unemployed ex coaches and see what they say.
     
  15. BLM01

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    No to Griffen, but Toovey or JD..OK with Flanno
     
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  16. Dragonslayer

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    Add into that all those he has thrown under the bus.
     
  17. TruSaint

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    Indeed, all part of the survival playbook.
    He is Houdini in this field.
     
  18. Gareth67

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    Oops- I meant to hit - like - but my hand hit reply , however good summary said sit all .
     
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    Managements persistence with mcgregor is deplorable, unforgivable and will never be forgotten
     
  20. BBTB

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    The St George Illawarra board are a inept, gaggle of Geese
    Getting every decision
    Wrong. From DeBelin, to lead them to an almost 'Boycotted "game. Because of there "Jobs for the Boys' culture. In any other business, they would be swept out
    of their positions by any fair & real voting system.
    The amount of botched decisions
    these Imbosiles, have
    made at our Club is
    Astonishing.
     
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