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Four Nations with Samoa?

kokz2014

Juniors
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Hey yall,

I watched the Pacific Island match between Samoa vs Fiji, and found out the winner would qualify as the fourth team in the Four Nations.

I am curious to know why the qualifying game was only between Samoa vs Fiji? I did noticed Samoa and Fiji finished a higher placing in the previous World Cup e.g. making the quarter/semi finals. Was that the particular reason? In 2013 test match, Samoa lost to Tonga.

PNG qualified in the last Four Nations by beating the Cooks in the finals. So the pacific Island teams had a mini tournament to qualify including Samoa, Fiji, and Tonga. Wouldn't it make sense to play another mini tournament among the Island teams to see who deserves to go through (no offense to Samoa)?

Would appreciate your help in finding out.

Thanks in advance
CHEERS :)
 

CQ Italia

Juniors
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Hey yall,

I watched the Pacific Island match between Samoa vs Fiji, and found out the winner would qualify as the fourth team in the Four Nations.

I am curious to know why the qualifying game was only between Samoa vs Fiji? I did noticed Samoa and Fiji finished a higher placing in the previous World Cup e.g. making the quarter/semi finals. Was that the particular reason? In 2013 test match, Samoa lost to Tonga.

PNG qualified in the last Four Nations by beating the Cooks in the finals. So the pacific Island teams had a mini tournament to qualify including Samoa, Fiji, and Tonga. Wouldn't it make sense to play another mini tournament among the Island teams to see who deserves to go through (no offense to Samoa)?

Would appreciate your help in finding out.

Thanks in advance
CHEERS :)
Rugby League has a tendency to changes formats/rules all the time could be why

Pacific nations were promised the top performed pacific nation at the RLWC 2013 would earn 2014 Four Nations qualification, that changed post-RLWC.
I gather as the NRL promotes/funds the new annual Pacific Test so they pushed the RLIF to make it a 4NQualifier.

The Pacific Cup was a proper tournament in 2009 but essentially went bust after a bad financial loss, unsure of how (management wise).
PNG want to bring the tournament back, while Gould has also said he would love to stage a Pacific Cup at Penrith
 

kokz2014

Juniors
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78
Interesting! I see now that makes sense. Yes, that is correct it was in 2009 since they last played the Pacific Cup. Wow, if Gould manage to set that up then it would entertaining to watch.

Oh well, I guess we have to wait another 2-3yrs to find out the next one.
 

roughyedspud

Coach
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Rugby League has a tendency to changes formats/rules all the time could be why

Pacific nations were promised the top performed pacific nation at the RLWC 2013 would earn 2014 Four Nations qualification, that changed post-RLWC.
I gather as the NRL promotes/funds the new annual Pacific Test so they pushed the RLIF to make it a 4NQualifier.

The Pacific Cup was a proper tournament in 2009 but essentially went bust after a bad financial loss, unsure of how (management wise).
PNG want to bring the tournament back, while Gould has also said he would love to stage a Pacific Cup at Penrith

the problem with the 2009 pacific cup was 4 out of the 5 games where played in the poorest country in the world,if each game cost $300,000 to play then host it somewhere where you can actually sell tickets for a reasonable price...

so instead of losing $1.5m it loses $300,400,500k which is managable..

id hazard a guess that the fiji v samoa test at penrith earlier this month took more gate money than the entire 2009 pacific cup
 

hutch

First Grade
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I still can't understand how the pacific cup costs millions to hold in png. Surely the png government would pay for it anyway, it really wouldn't cost a lot regardless.
 

deal.with.it

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Not to mention that had a broadcaster and major sponsor of the 09 pac cup.
No idea how it cost that much.
 

kokz2014

Juniors
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Wow I didn't know that much money was lost. I hope they sort it out so we can watch a Pacific Cup tourny to see who deserves to qualify.
 

RedVee

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I thought a mining company was putting up the $ for the Pacific Cup in PNG last time.
 

deal.with.it

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One would think if you proposed the concept to both Digicel and Vodafone, they'd both want to be a part of it.
 

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