Furious Warriors sponsor launches attack

[Wheeled Warrior]

If the warriors think the refs aren't even spitting before jamming it in with them
Ask the Raiders & how they think the refs are going

Theres no conspiracy & no club gets more dud calls then any other , it evens itself out over the length of the year

The refs are just incompetent generally , nothing personal.

Yes they are incompetent but saying theres no consipiracy with dud calls against certain clubs is BS. Polling on this subject in other forums suggest Warriors, Raiders, Cowboys, Tigers, Titans, Dragons in the past 5 years have had it bad.

One NZ CEO has to be thanked because we've never had someone in the front line taking on the officials like this before. And I love it.

Sorry Bulldogs the NRL will react to this for our game and give us the rub.
Then they will forget us like they usually do the weeks after.
Still waiting for NRL to show something to the Warriors for their sacrifices

 

[Wheeled Warrior]

Try getting f**ked over in a Grand Final like the Raiders were in 2019

then you can have a whinge

This. I'm a Warriors fan to the core but Raiders Fans have the right to punch a few officials in the head for that one. Stuff court/legal lol

 

[ColdWetPanther]

This. I'm a Warriors fan to the core but Raiders Fans have the right to punch a few officials in the head for that one. Stuff court/legal lol

Doesn’t sh!t happen all the time in games though? Players drop balls, officials make dud calls. Yes; the officials made a mistake in the GF. But the Raiders dropped their bundle and let them go down the other end of the field and score.

I thought the Cronk binning was a bad decision also. But the Chooks defended well and came through it.

 

[Desert Qlder]

The concept of unconscious bias is de rigueur in workplace relations.

Annesley can’t deny that it exists. There’d be multiple credible studies behind it.

Threatening to sue is a risky proposition.

 

[Meth]

Threatening to sue is a risky proposition.

It's just huff and puff and Paris is sitting in a brick house laughing

 

[The Man Shake]

Unconscious bias is a basic human condition, apparent everyday in all of us, and the subject of a truckload of research. Yet Annsmyth says it is an unmentionable? Hmm. That's ignorance in the first degree. Is he really the right person for his job?

Perhaps he and the NRL should instead look to train the referees to recognize their unconscious biases so they can minimize how it impacts their job performance. Such training is common in many fields. The result will be better and fairer referring. And at least a 0.2% reduction in moaning by disgruntled fans.

He’s a former goddamn politician. He’s about as useful as tits on a bull. Good at waxing lyrical about how nothing is his fault, but like most politicians no good at delivering just about anything. F*ck him off.

 

[Meth]

Sorry Bulldogs the NRL will react to this for our game and give us the rub.

Yeah, this is odds on

 

[Meth]

He’s a former goddamn politician. He’s about as useful as tits on a bull. Good at waxing lyrical about how nothing is his fault, but like most politicians no good at delivering just about anything. F*ck him off.

Annesley's press conferences are a good idea in theory, but in reality he generally uses them as a soap box to defend the referees and hardly ever accepts any kind of accountability.

 

[johns_reds]

Now the referees are threatening a law suit?

Referees’ union weighs up legal action against Warriors’ sponsor

NRL referees have reacted angrily to comments posted on social media by the chief executive of One NZ, Jason Paris, accusing officials of bias against the Warriors.

www.smh.com.au

Comment from Cecchin
“We feel strong enough to seek legal opinion and based on the information we’ll pursue whatever means necessary to ensure that it’s seen as a deterrent for anyone who thinks about making any such comments around bias.”

Basically saying we can't even think about the refs cheating? Hope Cecchin doesn't hang out in the game day threads.

I like the way Annesley put it:
“We can question their decision-making; I have no problem with that. But we can’t question their integrity,”

I think Paris tweet that the refs were cheating was just heat of the moment stuff, Who hasn't said during a game "The refs a f**king cheat" etc, but we know they aren't cheating, it's just the NRL bunker and refs are inconsistent and at times incompetent.

 

[Meth]

I don't see why their integrity can't be questioned. I question their integrity.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

The concept of unconscious bias is de rigueur in workplace relations.

Annesley can’t deny that it exists. There’d be multiple credible studies behind it.

Threatening to sue is a risky proposition.

Paris can gather a lot of video showing a tonne of examples of mistakes that could support a ‘theory’ of unconscious bias against the Warriors but it would still be difficult to define it as proof as unconsciousness in itself is an abstract concept. The fact that Paris withdrew his tweet says to me he knows he’s heading down a difficult path. He could still prove it but it would depend how deep he’s prepared to dip into his pockets.

 

[Bazal]

I don't see why their integrity can't be questioned. I question their integrity.

They're officiating a game in the public eye. Their integrity can and should be questioned. It's a poorly phrased defence by Annesley.

Our integrity is questioned in the APS all the time for example. It's not active, but we have a code of conduct that specifically delves into integrity as a passive measure for questioning it and I'm sure most jobs do. And of course of someone is (or appears to be)acting against that code it gets reported and active questions are asked.

Or for a more relevant example, cricket umpires were so questioned that they implemented a neutral umpire program prior to COVID...

 

[Meth]

Without getting too grandiose, I would say that a key to actually maintaining a sense of integrity is allowing for it to be scrutinised.

You couldn't question Stalin's integrity.

 

[Canard]

Paris can gather a lot of video showing a tonne of examples of mistakes that could support a ‘theory’ of unconscious bias against the Warriors but it would still be difficult to define it as proof as unconsciousness in itself is an abstract concept. The fact that Paris withdrew his tweet says to me he knows he’s heading down a difficult path. He could still prove it but it would depend how deep he’s prepared to dip into his pockets.

He isn't trying to prove it though.

It's the Match Officials that would have to prove it doesn't occur, IF they were to take him to court.

Not that I think they will.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

They're officiating a game in the public eye. Their integrity can and should be questioned. It's a poorly phrased defence by Annesley.

Our integrity is questioned in the APS all the time for example. It's not active, but we have a code of conduct that specifically delves into integrity as a passive measure for questioning it and I'm sure most jobs do. And of course of someone is (or appears to be)acting against that code it gets reported and active questions are asked.

Or for a more relevant example, cricket umpires were so questioned that they implemented a neutral umpire program prior to COVID...

Whilst I agree with your sentiment, I think in this case, public scrutiny - exasperated by the media, comes with constant abuse and sometimes even death threats. We’re also seeing it trickle down at amateur level as well making recruiting refs all the more difficult. On that level, I sympathise however, I personally believe teams do get reffed differently and the public deserves transparency but I don’t know what the answer is.

 

[Meth]

Paris can gather a lot of video showing a tonne of examples of mistakes that could support a ‘theory’ of unconscious bias against the Warriors but it would still be difficult to define it as proof as unconsciousness in itself is an abstract concept. The fact that Paris withdrew his tweet says to me he knows he’s heading down a difficult path. He could still prove it but it would depend how deep he’s prepared to dip into his pockets.

Yes, it will be hard to prove a theory of unconscious bias.

It's also hard to win a defamation case and the burden of proof will be on the NRL to make their case.

Nothing will come of it, nor should it. NRL are embarrassing themselves and should back away quickly.

 

[mave]

The fact refs have tip sheets on certain players and teams says all you need to know about the kind of mindset they go into games with.

Jaaaaaaaaaake
Jaaaaaaaaaake

It's ridiculous.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Yes, it will be hard to prove a theory of unconscious bias.

It's also hard to win a defamation case and the burden of proof will be on the NRL to make their case.

Nothing will come of it, nor should it. NRL are embarrassing themselves and should back away quickly.

On the plus side if a case ever went forward, Annesley can show a tonne of cases where they f**ked up in other matches as proof of non bias. However in the process he’s shown how shit they really are at their job.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

He isn't trying to prove it though.

It's the Match Officials that would have to prove it doesn't occur, IF they were to take him to court.

Not that I think they will.

But it’s defamation though, isn’t it? The proof is in the tweet. I’m the first to admit I’m no legal expert btw.

 

[Canard]

Yes, it will be hard to prove a theory of unconscious bias.

It's also hard to win a defamation case and the burden of proof will be on the NRL to make their case.

Nothing will come of it, nor should it. NRL are embarrassing themselves and should back away quickly.

It's not the NRL from what I've read, but the Match officials Union.

This galls me even more, because there has been heaps of claims of bias and integrity issues with match officials from actual NRL coaches and administrators, and not once have they threatened this.