The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[MugaB]

That reminds me of my bucks night.

“Old Men Start It, Young Men Fight It, Nobody Wins, Everybody In The Middle Dies, And Nobody Tells The Truth!”
Sounds like a line from everyones encounter of the superleague war

 

[taipan]

If Super League never happened, Sydney teams would still have merged, relocated or been booted from the comp. It's just that Super League forced things in a much more disorganised way.

That is true Sharks was due for a relocation .If SL hadn't happened I'd probably have to watch the Perth Sharks and be on the same side as our Sandgroper mate. Perish the thought.Lose a lot of interest.
But the reality is the mergers IMO haven't been the roaring success one would have hoped.

The other issue ATT the Swans were struggling from 82 -95 ,and the SL war (admitted by their administration) was a boost for their profile and crowds.Dropping Souths was a disaster even though they were struggling financially.

The clubs in the main were not run by people with business acumen, relying heavily on poker machine profits.And many times paying overs for players and coaches (then flicking coaches before contract expired).If all clubs had a Politis type running each club, they'd all be buoyant.

To be frank if relocations, expulsion and even mergers had happened (with SL), yes the ARL would have had a decent cash kitty, but the interest in Sydney for the code would be nowhere near where it is now.

 

[Iamback]

The harsh reality is we have a small population less than California, 3 FTA stations and one Pay TV.
We dislike the Murdoch control via their cable network, but they are the ones with the ability to pay the lions share of any TV deals. We want the money we have to get into bed with them like a whore.
The other motley FTA outlets ,have 10 whose ratings are lower than a wombat's a*se, 9 who cries poor mouth and couldn't promote ice cream to a Bedouin and 7 who have the bread but are so entwined with AFL I can't see them taking NRL except by the cherry pick method, SOO and possibly 1 weeknight( I hope I'm wrong BTW)

Bingo, People forget there aren't dozen's of options here. Grow the game and international rights follow but that is a while away yet

 

[taipan]

“Old Men Start It, Young Men Fight It, Nobody Wins, Everybody In The Middle Dies, And Nobody Tells The Truth!”
Sounds like a line from everyones encounter of the superleague war

You don't get many politicians who send their sons off to war, if they can help it.
Truth was the first casualty of the SL War. Never forget Mal's comments at the Shark's leagues club when the club decided to go to SL" What has rugby league done for me." I guess he probably regrets the wording.
What he should have said, the game is tough enough and we now have the opportunity to be rewarded accordingly.

 

[docbrown]

That is true Sharks was due for a relocation .If SL hadn't happened I'd probably have to watch the Perth Sharks and be on the same side as our Sandgroper mate. Perish the thought.Lose a lot of interest.
But the reality is the mergers IMO haven't been the roaring success one would have hoped.

The other issue ATT the Swans were struggling from 82 -95 ,and the SL war (admitted by their administration) was a boost for their profile and crowds.Dropping Souths was a disaster even though they were struggling financially.

The clubs in the main were not run by people with business acumen, relying heavily on poker machine profits.And many times paying overs for players and coaches (then flicking coaches before contract expired).If all clubs had a Politis type running each club, they'd all be buoyant.

To be frank if relocations, expulsion and even mergers had happened (with SL), yes the ARL would have had a decent cash kitty, but the interest in Sydney for the code would be nowhere near where it is now.

The mergers were done like a game of musical chairs and when the music stopped Wests and Balmain were sitting on the same chair, St George and Illawarra shared a chair and the Rabbitohs were left standing out in the cold.

There's a lot of hypotheticals with what would have happened without Super League but the ARL were going to rationalise the comp at some point. Illawarra-Sutherland Sharks always made more sense to me than what we got but it's all moot now. All I will say though is that the rest of Sydney is growing much more than what Sutherland Shire is. There's got to be a real plan in place to grow the brand more.

 

[Wb1234]

The harsh reality is we have a small population less than California, 3 FTA stations and one Pay TV.
We dislike the Murdoch control via their cable network, but they are the ones with the ability to pay the lions share of any TV deals. We want the money we have to get into bed with them like a whore.
The other motley FTA outlets ,have 10 whose ratings are lower than a wombat's a*se, 9 who cries poor mouth and couldn't promote ice cream to a Bedouin and 7 who have the bread but are so entwined with AFL I can't see them taking NRL except by the cherry pick method, SOO and possibly 1 weeknight( I hope I'm wrong BTW)

Stan will compete with fox for nrl on top of nine wanting the fta

nrl foot print needs to include nz which obviously our major rivals don’t even know where it is

 

[Wb1234]

You don't get many politicians who send their sons off to war, if they can help it.
Truth was the first casualty of the SL War. Never forget Mal's comments at the Shark's leagues club when the club decided to go to SL" What has rugby league done for me." I guess he probably regrets the wording.
What he should have said, the game is tough enough and we now have the opportunity to be rewarded accordingly.

I’ll bet Michael O’Connor has a few regrets from super league too

and John ribot is like a leper now

 

[Wb1234]

The mergers were done like a game of musical chairs and when the music stopped Wests and Balmain were sitting on the same chair, St George and Illawarra shared a chair and the Rabbitohs were left standing out in the cold.

There's a lot of hypotheticals with what would have happened without Super League but the ARL were going to rationalise the comp at some point. Illawarra-Sutherland Sharks always made more sense to me than what we got but it's all moot now. All I will say though is that the rest of Sydney is growing much more than what Sutherland Shire is. There's got to be a real plan in place to grow the brand more.

The obvious solution was for the dragons to take over Cronulla, and central coast bears on their own and manly kicked out

Illawarra should have their own nrl side

wests to Campbelltown

balmain could’ve moved to be a second brisbane side

then again they kicked out Perth and Gold Coast too on top of killing off the crushers giving the broncos a monopoly for 17 years

 

[Wb1234]

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Tony Shepard

“Accor desperately needs investment. An updated Accor would be an extremely valuable asset. I would put a roof on it: you’d have a 90,000-seat stadium in Sydney that could host major events, concerts, the opera, rugby league grand finals, major cricket matches, AFL.”


no wonder vlandys is at odds with this dope.

it doesn’t even hold 90k lmao

Also

“Souths have a long-term contract with Accor to play there until 2030,” Shepherd said. “If Accor is rehabilitated, my view is that content won’t be an issue there. Then we can renegotiate with the Bunnies. Theirs was a voluntary shift from Allianz to Accor for money reasons in the first place. We’re not anti-Bunnies, but we expect them to honour their deal.”

now we know who was stopping south’s moving back to allianz

 

[jasonstevenswedgie]

The mergers were done like a game of musical chairs and when the music stopped Wests and Balmain were sitting on the same chair, St George and Illawarra shared a chair and the Rabbitohs were left standing out in the cold.

There's a lot of hypotheticals with what would have happened without Super League but the ARL were going to rationalise the comp at some point. Illawarra-Sutherland Sharks always made more sense to me than what we got but it's all moot now. All I will say though is that the rest of Sydney is growing much more than what Sutherland Shire is. There's got to be a real plan in place to grow the brand more.

fromwhat i remember, the sharks were in talks with souths but nothing come of it

 

[T-Boon]

Tony Shepherd come out today and said he is lobbying for Accor to get a minor refurb and a roof so AFL can play there... what a surprise.

They do this stuff well. Good on them.

 

[Colk]

I’ll try to understand it

Whatever you do don’t sit in silence. You also don’t have to live in fear

 

[T-Boon]

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Tony Shepard

“Accor desperately needs investment. An updated Accor would be an extremely valuable asset. I would put a roof on it: you’d have a 90,000-seat stadium in Sydney that could host major events, concerts, the opera, rugby league grand finals, major cricket matches, AFL.”


no wonder vlandys is at odds with this dope.

it doesn’t even hold 90k lmao

Also

“Souths have a long-term contract with Accor to play there until 2030,” Shepherd said. “If Accor is rehabilitated, my view is that content won’t be an issue there. Then we can renegotiate with the Bunnies. Theirs was a voluntary shift from Allianz to Accor for money reasons in the first place. We’re not anti-Bunnies, but we expect them to honour their deal.”

now we know who was stopping south’s moving back to allianz

Haha. Tony Shephard to Souths: “whose you daddy?”.
The Rabbitohs are embarrassing.

 

[Pneuma]

Haha. Tony Shephard to Souths: “whose you daddy?”.
The Rabbitohs are embarrassing.

Tony Shepherd is embarrassing. Complaining about empty seats at NRL grounds while being the chair of gnats is the height of hypocrisy. Stating Australia is the only country to expect governments to build stadiums is an outright lie. This guy is a moron and a pro-fumbling stooge.

 

[MugaB]

Whatever you do don’t sit in silence. You also don’t have to live in fear

And I come back to the world and I see all those maggots at the airport protesting me spitting calling me baby killer and all kinds of crap



I DIDN'T DRAW FIRST BLOOD, THEY DID!!!

 

[taipan]

12ft

12ft.io

Tony Shepard

“Accor desperately needs investment. An updated Accor would be an extremely valuable asset. I would put a roof on it: you’d have a 90,000-seat stadium in Sydney that could host major events, concerts, the opera, rugby league grand finals, major cricket matches, AFL.”


no wonder vlandys is at odds with this dope.

it doesn’t even hold 90k lmao

Also

“Souths have a long-term contract with Accor to play there until 2030,” Shepherd said. “If Accor is rehabilitated, my view is that content won’t be an issue there. Then we can renegotiate with the Bunnies. Theirs was a voluntary shift from Allianz to Accor for money reasons in the first place. We’re not anti-Bunnies, but we expect them to honour their deal.”

now we know who was stopping south’s moving back to Allianz

Tony Shepherd was AFL first daylight second ,he was front and centre when infrastructure stadium improvements were being made that would benefit his code.
Certainly did not want Accor being redeveloped to a rectangular one.He couldn't give a rats a*se about other codes particularly the NRL.He obvious had plans for finals and games for the Ducks and Gnats at Accor.
One thing I've got to hand to this gatherer mob, they get into the ears of politicians and are damn good at lobbying politicians.
That's why I have no issue when V'Landys rips into their code as a code of entitlement.

 

[taipan]

Stan will compete with fox for nrl on top of nine wanting the fta

nrl foot print needs to include nz which obviously our major rivals don’t even know where it is

The question is has Stan the loot to do so.

 

[Vibing]

This idea that a roof on Accor would cost a 100 or 150 mill is absurd , it would cost a lot more then that . Its not even needed , the venue is 80% rain proof anyway & it will add very little to this very average venue ( in its present configuration )
I suspect there will be a strong push for it to happen though with the RWC in 2027, but
the push for it not to happen needs to be just as strong & those funds used to " actually " improve facilities or build new ones

 

[Wb1234]

The question is has Stan the loot to do so.

They offered 500 million pa for the fumblers

 

[Wb1234]

Tony Shepherd was AFL first daylight second ,he was front and centre when infrastructure stadium improvements were being made that would benefit his code.
Certainly did not want Accor being redeveloped to a rectangular one.He couldn't give a rats a*se about other codes particularly the NRL.He obvious had plans for finals and games for the Ducks and Gnats at Accor.
One thing I've got to hand to this gatherer mob, they get into the ears of politicians and are damn good at lobbying politicians.
That's why I have no issue when V'Landys rips into their code as a code of entitlement.

Gill was at his farewell whilst vlandys and abdo decided last minute not to go