The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Canard]

Getting an upgrade to Dolphin Stadium as a 7's and soccer venue is the play here for RL. The Government loves legacy projects and this gives an upgrade to QLD's newest NRL team.

Dolphin stadium and sunshine coast stadium into decent 20-25k stadiums would be a big outcome for the game. I know Ipswich were after one as well. Any chance they could get it started using Olympics platform? Labor promised $20mill before election last year to get it rolling, presume that's still on the table?

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Whats the ownership situation with Redcliffe's stadium and the land it is sited on?

Any upgrade would result in a big rent hike I guess, and the Council having to hand over the land/stadium to the state?

 

[It's Been Done]

Whats the ownership situation with Redcliffe's stadium and the land it is sited on?

Any upgrade would result in a big rent hike I guess, and the Council having to hand over the land/stadium to the state?

Owned by the Dolphins much like how Cronulla own Shark Park (both purchased from their respective local councils) and until 2004, how Carlton used to own Princes Park in Melbourne

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Whats the ownership situation with Redcliffe's stadium and the land it is sited on?

Any upgrade would result in a big rent hike I guess, and the Council having to hand over the land/stadium to the state?

The Dolphins own the stadium and the site. I guess any deal to upgrade the stadium with Government money will come down to how the negotiations play out between the Dolphins and the QLD Government.

 

[Canard]

The Dolphins own the stadium and the site. I guess any deal to upgrade the stadium with Government money will come down to how the negotiations play out between the Dolphins and the QLD Government.

I would be highly suprised if any government is going to fund a private stadium upgrade, without taking over ownership thereafter.

 

[Perth Red]

I would be highly suprised if any government is going to fund a private stadium upgrade, without taking over ownership thereafter.

Does seem to be a sticking point at shark park, havent they just had their CofE funding withdrawn after sitting on it for a few years? Mind you under the guise of community, women, inclusivity blah blah Govts seem happy to throw money all over the place.

 

[beave]

I would be highly suprised if any government is going to fund a private stadium upgrade, without taking over ownership thereafter.

Dolphin stadium has had a fair bit of public coin thrown at it.

I can't remember if this was from a state gov level but I know the federal and local govs gave money for the upgrades. Moreton Bay council were filthy when the club decided to go against using a local name (Redcliffe/Moreton Bay) in their title due to the coin they handed over.

 

[Canard]

Dolphin stadium has had a fair bit of public coin thrown at it.

I can't remember if this was from a state gov level but I know the federal and local govs gave money for the upgrades. Moreton Bay council were filthy when the club decided to go against using a local name (Redcliffe/Moreton Bay) in their title due to the coin they handed over.

Yeh, but Council's will tend to be able to secure grants for things under the guise of "local sports clubs".

I can't imagine that the optics of QLD govt giving them a $250M stadium for no return would work though.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

I would be highly suprised if any government is going to fund a private stadium upgrade, without taking over ownership thereafter.

Agreed. It will come down to what the Dolphins want more long-term, to keep hold of the land that the stadium sits on or get a Government funded upgrade.

 

[Perth Red]

Last upgrade it got $2.5mill from local council and $3.5mill from Feds. Early development included some State funding as well. All up it had $15mill spent on it from these three sources. That's probably ok from public scrutiny, but hundreds of millions for a privately own business premises is a different matter.

Redcliffe’s Dolphin Stadium to Get $6M Expansion - Redcliffe Today

The Federal Government backs the Moreton Bay Regional Council towards Stage 3 of Dolphin Stadium.

redcliffetoday.com.au

 

[Perth Red]

Agreed. It will come down to what the Dolphins want more long-term, to keep hold of the land that the stadium sits on or get a Government funded upgrade.

Given they haven't sold out 12k for their first game there yet I'm not sure an upgrade is that high on the agenda.

 

[Wb1234]

I would be highly suprised if any government is going to fund a private stadium upgrade, without taking over ownership thereafter.

Cronulla has had loads of govt grants done to it

dolphin park also had govt money put towards its upgrade

heck Ballymore is getting redone and that’s owned by the qru

 

[Jamberoo]

Given they haven't sold out 12k for their first game there yet I'm not sure an upgrade is that high on the agenda.

Round 2 is sold out. Capacity is 10k.

 

[Canard]

Last upgrade it got $2.5mill from local council and $3.5mill from Feds. Early development included some State funding as well. All up it had $15mill spent on it from these three sources. That's probably ok from public scrutiny, but hundreds of millions for a privately own business premises is a different matter.

Redcliffe’s Dolphin Stadium to Get $6M Expansion - Redcliffe Today

The Federal Government backs the Moreton Bay Regional Council towards Stage 3 of Dolphin Stadium.

redcliffetoday.com.au

The reality is that Brisbane doesn't need a 2nd NRL ground either, it's a "nice to have" but not essential.

 

[Canard]

Cronulla has had loads of govt grants done to it

dolphin park also had govt money put towards its upgrade

heck Ballymore is getting redone and that’s owned by the qru

Approved - Ballymore Masterplan - Herston, Brisbane

The Ballymore Redevelopment Masterplan has been approved by the State Government and construction will begin on the development in February 2022. The master pl

yourneighbourhood.com.au

Ballymore is getting a 3000 seat grandstand and some training facilities.

Nothing like a new stadium

 

[Timbo]

Or alternatively they move big international cricket away from Queensland while the Gabba is rebuilt.

Canberra and/or Hobart plus Sydney and Melbourne or Perth or Adelaide could easily take on more internationals.

Nothing says international cricket has to be played in Queensland (or any other state for that matter), it's just that Cricket Australia shares the games around.

They’re not going to ignore the third biggest metro area in the country for five years. Carrara is also a bigger stadium than Manuka and Bellerive.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

They’re not going to ignore the third biggest metro area in the country for five years. Carrara is also a bigger stadium than Manuka and Bellerive.

They won't play at Carrara for 5 years. They might play a couple but they will move games from Queensland.

 

[Wb1234]

Approved - Ballymore Masterplan - Herston, Brisbane

The Ballymore Redevelopment Masterplan has been approved by the State Government and construction will begin on the development in February 2022. The master pl

yourneighbourhood.com.au

Ballymore is getting a 3000 seat grandstand and some training facilities.

Nothing like a new stadium

Spend the same amount upgrading Kayo park then

 

[Perth Red]

Round 2 is sold out. Capacity is 10k.

Nope tickets are available, only 10k? Even worse.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Nope tickets are available, only 10k? Even worse.

Lol it’s Rd2 game & he’s bitching already .
Bless

 

[Timbo]

They won't play at Carrara for 5 years. They might play a couple but they will move games from Queensland.

This will depend on how much the QCA throws its weight around.

The five mainland states run cricket in this country. Tasmania gets the scraps and Cricket ACT is only an associate member of CA.