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Just call yourself The Raiders 3 games in Perth 3 games in Adelaide 3 games in Brisbane 3 games in Sydney. Till they build a Stadium befitting the Nations Capital.
The government doesn't want to help. Get the NRL to pay for it.
This article is behind a paywall, so if anyone can post the text I'd be greatful, as its author makes some very salient points.
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Beg, borrow, steal: The secrets of success for Sydney’s NRL clubs
Manly, St George Illawarra, Wests Tigers and Cronulla are spiritually aligned to ageing and crumbling suburban grounds, but at what cost?www.smh.com.au
I saw this is idiot author in a `debate` posted on here recently called Code Wars or something, he sat there like a goose saying to his pro-fumble opponent that yes the fumbles were more accepted in NSW and Qld than vice-versa while his mate opposite nodded eagerly in approval. What Breen failed to mention was the almost total media black-out League has faced in Victoria since forever, something as a `journalist` he must have known.This article is behind a paywall, so if anyone can post the text I'd be greatful, as its author makes some very salient points.
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Beg, borrow, steal: The secrets of success for Sydney’s NRL clubs
Manly, St George Illawarra, Wests Tigers and Cronulla are spiritually aligned to ageing and crumbling suburban grounds, but at what cost?www.smh.com.au
Club would need some compensation for loss of season ticket revenue, BUT on the other hand the Adelaide component would be a handy way to seed some interest in the game there.Just call yourself The Raiders 3 games in Perth 3 games in Adelaide 3 games in Brisbane 3 games in Sydney. Till they build a Stadium befitting the Nations Capital.
It's a damn shame that the Raiders home game against the Warriors was in Vegas this season - it would've been a slam-dunk to move that to Wellington.
They originally said they would move games to nz
This sounds like they are moving games to qld which is a smart move
They will make way more money and pressure that pro afl chief minister to stop wasting money on afl and sort out the situation for the three teams that need a modern regtangular stadium
Furner is to be applauded
Looks like their home game v Gold Coast will go to Gold Coast and dolphins game to Suncorp
Do what the AFL did and build thier own?Why should the NRL fund it? The NRL, nor the Raiders for that matter own the ground. Its Government owned. As the owner, they are responsible for its upkeep and maintenance, not its tenants, of whom the Raiders are only one.
This is just another example of chromic non-spending over decades by the ACT Government.
According to the Raiders, 1 in 10 of their members live in Queensland, so it does make sense to give games to their biggest fan base outside of Canberra and New South Wales
They originally said they would move games to nz
This sounds like they are moving games to qld which is a smart move
They will make way more money and pressure that pro afl chief minister to stop wasting money on afl and sort out the situation for the three teams that need a modern regtangular stadium
Furner is to be applauded
Looks like their home game v Gold Coast will go to Gold Coast and dolphins game to Suncorp
Head to Wellington NZ, and play at the capital… or, play in even capital city of each state.Just call yourself The Raiders 3 games in Perth 3 games in Adelaide 3 games in Brisbane 3 games in Sydney. Till they build a Stadium befitting the Nations Capital.
The ACT government doesn't own GIO. It's owned by the Australian Sports Commission along with all the rest of the AIS. The AIS has been left to rot by all Federal governments since the 90s, and if it wasn't for the ACT government paying for upgrades and maintenance GIO would still be a run down oval with a running track around it.Why should the NRL fund it? The NRL, nor the Raiders for that matter own the ground. Its Government owned. As the owner, they are responsible for its upkeep and maintenance, not its tenants, of whom the Raiders are only one.
This is just another example of chromic non-spending over decades by the ACT Government.
Furner and the Raiders board are f**king morons who's weakness is largely responsible for the club getting itself into this position in the first place. Chronic nepotism will do that to any organisation.
They originally said they would move games to nz
This sounds like they are moving games to qld which is a smart move
They will make way more money and pressure that pro afl chief minister to stop wasting money on afl and sort out the situation for the three teams that need a modern regtangular stadium
Furner is to be applauded
Looks like their home game v Gold Coast will go to Gold Coast and dolphins game to Suncorp
The Raiders funding agreement with the ACT government requires them to play 11 home games in Canberra or they sacrifice government funding and support, and there's absolutely no chance that Wellington is offering more for NRL content than Queensland or WA.It's a damn shame that the Raiders home game against the Warriors was in Vegas this season - it would've been a slam-dunk to move that to Wellington.
Do what the AFL did and build thier own?
The ACT government doesn't own GIO. It's owned by the Australian Sports Commission along with all the rest of the AIS. The AIS has been left to rot by all Federal governments since the 90s, and if it wasn't for the ACT government paying for upgrades and maintenance GIO would still be a run down oval with a running track around it.
Yes you read that right; ACT ratepayers have effectively been locked in to paying for expansion and upkeep of a major asset they don't own for 35+ years. This is exclusively because of rampant mismanagement of the Federal government's assets in the ACT, largely fuelled by the fact that support for Federal investment into the ACT doesn't win votes. Truth be told it's political suicide in most electorates, especially conservative and the most lefty ones.
So we (Canberra) are stuck in a catch-22. The ACT government aren't really in a position to build a new stadium without Federal assistance that hasn't been forthcoming. They can't sell the land the old one is on to help fund new development because they don't own it and the Federal government refuses to sell it to them. If they don't sink tens of millions of dollars a decade into maintaining the old stadium they lease from the ASC it'll be derelict within a few years. So they can't really win.
Also this idea that the Raiders, and especially NRL, are helpless in this scenario is absolute BS. If anything the NRL and Raiders are as responsible for the current situation as the Territory and Federal government are. Both of them have had many opportunities to positively impact the situation and consistently chosen not to.
Both of them are in positions where they could offer to partner in the construction of a new stadium, like the AFL does, and consistently refused to even consider the option. The Raiders could have been more aggressive in negotiations with both tiers of government in the past, and the NRL have pretty much refused to shown up to those negotiations at all.
The only viable relocation places are central coast Adelaide chch or WellingtonFurner and the Raiders board are f**king morons who's weakness is largely responsible for the club getting itself into this position in the first place. Chronic nepotism will do that to any organisation.
All taking games away would do is give a free kick to the government, especially when they'll inevitably be some of their highest drawing ones. Why build an expensive new stadium for them when they're just going to sell games to the highest bidders after all?
It's an ineffective half measure, and a massive PR loss in what is effectively a PR war, that puts all their closest supporters offside without actually getting them any closer to their goal. It would also open up a giant opportunity for their competitors to exploit the gap the Raiders leave. Watch the stupid pricks continue to raise membership costs as well lol.
I've said it before, and I'll repeat it ad nauseam if I have to; for years now the only card the Raiders have left if they want a new stadium funded by the taxpayer before 2045 (more likely 2050 at this point, given the delays and cost blowouts of the tram) is a genuine threat of relocation. A real, serious, relocation plan, and a f**k you attitude.
They need to start sounding out the other state governments and NZ (why not) on what they'd offer for the Raiders to relocate permanently, bang out a preliminary deal, then give the ACT government an ultimatum and a deadline, "start construction on a new stadium that meets these minimum specifications, in one of these predetermined locations, before X date, or we've got no choice but to leave".
It's either that, find a way to build a stadium on their own, or STFU and accept Bruce in the state that it's in. Anything else is just spineless pussyfooting about for fear of the public backlash to their decision.
The Raiders/NRL would be sitting on a fortune now had they bought land in a good spot in Canberra and built a respectable boutique stadium on it in 2014. Land and property values have gone insane over the last ten years.Yes, let the NRL build a stadium used by only one NRL Team. Let it run down its strategic reserves to pay for it![]()