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"Great Britain lacked preperation"/// HA HA HA HA

Parrasque

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Maori spirit spooks hosts
Great Britain’s lack of preparation cost them the chance of victory last night and the Rugby Football League must learn its lesson, writes Richard Rae
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THERE isn’t a direct translation for the Maori word Mana, but it’s usually used to describe an individual of stature and presence, somebody whose sense of pride and purpose is apparent in everything they do. There were a lot of men with mana on the pitch at Loftus Road last night, and most of them were wearing black. Caught cold on a balmy evening, Great Britain’s lack of match preparation was painfully apparent against a team which has already ripped apart the best in this competition. By the time they started to compete, the Lions were 16 points behind, and though they showed courage in dragging themselves back to within a single score, it both highlighted their early hesitancy and took so much out of them that they were unable to hold New Zealand’s final charge.


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The hopes of British fans had risen when Keiron Cunningham first completed the warm-up in one piece, and then emerged from the tunnel in a Lions shirt, the first such sighting of the St Helens hooker for almost three years. His absence in 2003 and 2004 gave the supporters something of an excuse for Great Britain’s failure to beat the best when it mattered. Finally, after a season in which Cunningham has regained both fitness and drive, they were about to see their case tested.

What nobody who managed to negotiate the appalling traffic around Loftus Road in time for kick-off doubted was that the test was going to be severe. The Kiwis might not have been able to call on Lesley Vainikolo, but coach Brian McClennan named Stacey Jones at half-back. The playmaker had said he intended to retire from international rugby after the first two games of the tournament against Australia, but here he was, and on a narrow pitch with a short in-goal area, his precise kicking was always going to have a huge influence.

That New Zealand intended to play it tough was immediately obvious in Paul Rauhihi and David Solomona’s treatment of Stuart Fielden on Great Britain’s first possession. It cost them two points, but the way in which the penalty was instantly retrieved was grimly instructive. Nigel Vagana’s dummy run on to Jones’s pass seemed to suck in most of the British team.

And if Brent Webb went over unopposed for the first try, Manu Vatuvei might as well have been. Brian Carney was brushed aside with disconcerting ease, and the Irishman’s evening wasn’t to improve.

He was saved by the video referee when Vatuvei beat him to Solomona’s kick, a break Great Britain’s performance barely warranted, and when he dropped a Jones bomb, Solomona fumbled with the line at his mercy.

Jones’s high kick to the corner then saw Jake Webster climb so far above Leon Pryce it was embarrassing, but at least by this stage there had been some signs — largely courtesy of Cunningham — that Great Britain could, if they could actually hold on to the ball, put the Kiwis under pressure. And it was the hooker’s pass which created the space for Paul Johnson to give the Lions a sniff.

There was still time, but not after Paul Rauhihi and then Toopi crossed. The game, nearly saved, was gone. Whether there were enough positives to think that Australia can be beaten at Wigan next Saturday is arguable. At least Great Britain have had a match, and perhaps the lesson will be absorbed by the Rugby Football League.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2094-1849835,00.html

Ok, Britain were playing at home and had all the time to prepare in the world. They didn't have players denied games because of the opposition coach and didn't have to travel on a 20 hour flight. They chose not to have warm up games, they could have if they wanted them.


BOOOOOO Great Britain
 

Greenblooded

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f**k me, one team travels half way across the world, jumps off the plane and plays, and the other mob whinges about lack of preparation, turn it up.
 
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Just some of the escuses Ive heard over the years....

Bill Harrigon won was biased.
Russell Smith is going out of his way to be so unbiased that he was biased.
Tim Mander is Biased.
They play more club games in the UK.
They have to play five games in a row if they make the final.
They dont get warm up games.
Australia is very lucky to have gone unbeaten for 25+ years.
Black is a good ref....wait, he is a poor ref.
They schedual the competition so we lose.
The ten meters is more like 15.
The ten meters is more like 7 or 8.
Ganson is terrible and overly unboased to the point that he is biased.
The ARL make their own rules.

Thats just a QUICK run down.
 
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In the last few weeks Ive been told....

Fielden is the best prop iin the world and has dominated every side he has faced at Test level.

Cunningham is one of the best players in the world, and by far and away the best hooker.

Carney is the best winger, thats not even up for debate.

Peacock is a great leader and a great success in test football.

I had one joker tell me Paul Wellens was as good, if no better than Anthony Minichello during last years try series and he had the hit up stats to prove it!

Rob Burrow was going to tear Aus and GB apart because he is a top class halfback.



Those are just their big guns. Thats not mentioning the other players they rate VERY highly!
 

DINGb@T

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Training is nothing in comparison to playing two fair dinkum games together which the Kiwis did and the Poms didnt.
Personally I agree with the article- todays game blew the cobwebs out of the Poms and they'll only get better. Wether they'll get good enough to beat our boys next week is unlikely but by the last game I'd be looking for an upset where the Poms win.
 

SpaceMonkey

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DINGb@T said:
Training is nothing in comparison to playing two fair dinkum games together which the Kiwis did and the Poms didnt.
Personally I agree with the article- todays game blew the cobwebs out of the Poms and they'll only get better. Wether they'll get good enough to beat our boys next week is unlikely but by the last game I'd be looking for an upset where the Poms win.

And whose fault's that? The Poms could've played a warm-up game against the Frogs, they chose not to. It's like whinging that you failed an exam because you were too lazy to study.
 

DINGb@T

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Im not saying it isnt their fault- it is their fault- but your talking like they cant be even remotely competitive. I think they will be.
And no, they wont be in the finals.
 

Fairleigh Good!

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nospam49™ said:
In the last few weeks Ive been told....

Fielden is the best prop iin the world and has dominated every side he has faced at Test level.

Cunningham is one of the best players in the world, and by far and away the best hooker.


Carney is the best winger, thats not even up for debate.

Peacock is a great leader and a great success in test football.

I had one joker tell me Paul Wellens was as good, if no better than Anthony Minichello during last years try series and he had the hit up stats to prove it!

Rob Burrow was going to tear Aus and GB apart because he is a top class halfback.



Those are just their big guns. Thats not mentioning the other players they rate VERY highly!

Whilst Fielden may not be the best prop in the world he is certainly world class. He can play 80 minutes and you saw tonight how big an impact he has on games. He was great again tonight and along with Sculthorpe is one of the few GB players who always show up at that level. He IS better than 95% of the props in the NRL.

Cunningham is the best hooker in the world. Just because he hasn't played in the NRL doesn't mean he can't be the best. Ask someone like Mal Menninga or Darren Lockyer what they think of him, as they have both called him the worlds best, and are a better judge than some internet geek. GB are pretty shocking at the moment, but still have a few elite players who match anything the NRL has to offer.
 

Fairleigh Good!

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The fixtures are not decided by the GB team or its setup though are they. They are dictated to a massive degree by the Sky Sports deal, which demands a certain number of games be shown. You cut the season down and the money goes down. The clubs need a certain amount of home games to get enough income to survive.

We would love to have the luxury to be able to play mid-season internationals, but it just isn't a possibility. NZ and Australia have a massive advantage when they reach the UK in that they have been together as a unit a lot longer than we can be. Jet lag last about a day or two days and the vast majority of players involved are all used to travelling to the UK.
 

the rebel

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GB are lucky that SBW, Benji, Utai, Halatau, J Cayless and others were not playing. a full strength kiwi team would smash GB. Playing An under strength team, who had a 20 hour flight, this was GBs best chance of beating the kiwis.
 

Jono078

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Fielden was pretty good, after last night id rate him with the best props.

Plays similar to Carl Webb, just bumping player after player off of him.
 

strong_latte

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Fairleigh Good! said:
The fixtures are not decided by the GB team or its setup though are they. They are dictated to a massive degree by the Sky Sports deal, which demands a certain number of games be shown. You cut the season down and the money goes down. The clubs need a certain amount of home games to get enough income to survive.

We would love to have the luxury to be able to play mid-season internationals, but it just isn't a possibility. NZ and Australia have a massive advantage when they reach the UK in that they have been together as a unit a lot longer than we can be. Jet lag last about a day or two days and the vast majority of players involved are all used to travelling to the UK.

Ask anyone in professional sports and they'll tell you that the money is in TV... if the ESL were to compensate the clubs for the loss of a couple home games (the ones that needed it, alot of them are rich enough to cop that) and then Have GB train togeather as a squad for a couple weeks, then play a 2 match series against the French, then they'd be in perfect stead! But International league is still organised by a bunch of donkeys! If enough people cared about International League, then believe me, this would have happened in the UK 5 years ago!
 
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