Gus wants Origin / international eligibility reviewed!

[Dogs Of War]

I think Des has clocked off.

Nah, GC was hard thing to fix. On a stage like Origin, he would be perfect. Has played Origin, and I have no doubt he could coach at that level and tactically he would have things down pat. Wouldn't be the prettiest thing to watch, cause he loves his defensive teams, but that's what wins Origin anyway.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Nah, GC was hard thing to fix. On a stage like Origin, he would be perfect. Has played Origin, and I have no doubt he could coach at that level and tactically he would have things down pat. Wouldn't be the prettiest thing to watch, cause he loves his defensive teams, but that's what wins Origin anyway.

I think he could have been a great Origin coach.
I just doubt he has the passion left to coach.
The Titans lost there first 6 games straight,if he was passionate and had a good speech in him, it never get to 6. Titans had enough talent to get it done.
Only once he was on the chopping block did you see his dummy spit after a loss and they bounced back.. season was gone.

You'll see a different Titans this year, there's no problems at the GC, they just get coaches who are happy to slip into holiday mode.
Hannay is at the beginning of forging a career and it'll be obvious how far off Des was.

 

[Bazal]

Des is actually insane.

His marbles have been lost. The bats have left the belfry for greener pastures.

 

[kurt faulk]

Just want Daley out. Give us Des Hasler. He will sort it all out for the next few years. Then we will hear bleating like we did when NSW won 3 in a row just before you guys went on your streak, that Origin is dead. It's only dead when NSW are winning too much.

Exactly, that's why they brought in Daley again. He's doing the job they want him to do. Lose.

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[Captain Apollo]

Just want Daley out. Give us Des Hasler. He will sort it all out for the next few years. Then we will hear bleating like we did when NSW won 3 in a row just before you guys went on your streak, that Origin is dead. It's only dead when NSW are winning too much.

Let's face it, a packet of Cornflakes would do a better job coaching NSW than Laurie Daley.

 

[Chimp]

Long overdue change tbh. Unsure why it's causing any disagreement at all...

If any player had ever wished to challenge the previous rules legally, I suspect they’d have won - it could easily be argued that the old eligibility rules were discriminatory against Kiwis and Englishmen. You could have 2 players both born and bred in NSW, 1 is allowed to play Origin and represent Tonga, Samoa etc, but the other who’s heritage is Kiwi or English, is not allowed in.

Separately, with a starting front row of Haas and AFB, who can both knock out 80 mins, that means even if you want to give them a break, you only need a replacement prop for a couple of 10 mins stints. Makes the bench rotation for NSW very interesting. Spencer is an obvious one, but I’d probably then go for another high impact middle, and stick someone like Terrell May on the bench, only to be used if Haas or AFB get a game ending injury.
NSW could have a bench full of real impact/game changers. With Yeo at 13 and not generally needing a spell, they’re only going to need to use 4 interchanges on their middles all game (baring serious injury), and that’s if they decide not to play Haas or AFB the full 80.
God knows how Laurie will be able to cope with all those options, his poor simple brain will be pickled.

 

[Gobsmacked]

If any player had ever wished to challenge the previous rules legally, I suspect they’d have won - it could easily be argued that the old eligibility rules were discriminatory against Kiwis and Englishmen. You could have 2 players both born and bred in NSW, 1 is allowed to play Origin and represent Tonga, Samoa etc, but the other who’s heritage is Kiwi or English, is not allowed in.

Separately, with a starting front row of Haas and AFB, who can both knock out 80 mins, that means even if you want to give them a break, you only need a replacement prop for a couple of 10 mins stints. Makes the bench rotation for NSW very interesting. Spencer is an obvious one, but I’d probably then go for another high impact middle, and stick someone like Terrell May on the bench, only to be used if Haas or AFB get a game ending injury.
NSW could have a bench full of real impact/game changers. With Yeo at 13 and not generally needing a spell, they’re only going to need to use 4 interchanges on their middles all game (baring serious injury), and that’s if they decide not to play Haas or AFB the full 80.
God knows how Laurie will be able to cope with all those options, his poor simple brain will be pickled.

Mad not to pick Barnett

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

Terrell would be a certainty under Des.

 

[Reflector]

Let's face it, a packet of Cornflakes would do a better job coaching NSW than Laurie Daley.

IBM, GROTD, Tito and the rest of the Courier Mail drones would do a better job coaching NSW than Laurie Daley - and they'd be doing their best to ensure we lost every game by 100+...

 

[The Silverdale Phantom]

IBM, GROTD, Tito and the rest of the Courier Mail drones would do a better job coaching NSW than Laurie Daley - and they'd be doing their best to ensure we lost every game by 100+...

Queensland has been mentioned at least a dozen times in the Epstein files.

 

[Chimp]

Mad not to pick Barnett

Yes, you’re absolutely right - knew there was an obvious one that I was missing - he can do a bit of backrow too if needed.

Starting AFB and Haas, probably play 60 mins each
2 x 10 mins spells from Spencer - instructions to go out and cause mayhem
Barnett as other general middle rotation for the other 20 mins that needs covering, plus any backrow duties if needed.
Then I think this would have been Pappys time. Craig Wing style super-sub impact.

Then 3 ‘reserves’ - half/booker cover, outside back cover and probably another versatile forward who could cover middle and edge - a Talakai type or The big Manly gay hater backrower - both can do a job, but also both could be thrown on to cause a bit of mayhem.

 

[Dogs Of War]

I think he could have been a great Origin coach.
I just doubt he has the passion left to coach.
The Titans lost there first 6 games straight,if he was passionate and had a good speech in him, it never get to 6. Titans had enough talent to get it done.
Only once he was on the chopping block did you see his dummy spit after a loss and they bounced back.. season was gone.

You'll see a different Titans this year, there's no problems at the GC, they just get coaches who are happy to slip into holiday mode.
Hannay is at the beginning of forging a career and it'll be obvious how far off Des was.

There was a good podcast with Steve Gillis where they talked about clubs like Gold Coast. They cut corners and don't provide the support that is expected at the better clubs. This is why they always end up back down the bottom of the table. Fix a lot of those bits and pieces and you can have sustained success.

 

[Chins]

Toovey > Des

 

[Fangs]

Would love to see Des involved.

I had him as Australian coach until the boys club gave it to Walters.

 

[T-Boon]

Appoint Anthony Mundine to coach NSW.

 

[Dogs Of War]

Appoint Anthony Mundine to coach NSW.

He would name himself starting 5/8th proclaiming himself the greatest and no one else deserves that spot.

On a side note, when he was named on the bench for his state of origin appearance, I threw him on for first and last try scorer. Only one try was scored in the match, and that was by Mundine. Nice little pickup.

 

[King hit]

Exactly.

The most frustrating part is that (while he's clearly a level above Laurie Loser and possibly Space Freddie before he lost the plot) Billygrub clearly has a glass jaw, which Loz is too nice to take aim at but Madge "I'll cut my f**king pinkie off if f**king Souths aren't f**king in this f**king game of f**king footy" McGuire played masterfully in 2024

Everyone writes of Fittler as simple jack from Tropic Thunder these days but I feel he should be given more respect. The way he completely reversed that 2017 rubbish immediately has him in my good books. Year after when he dropped Latrell for being lazy aged like fine wine. Copped shit for it but those changes were justified.

He won in 1995 against a coach who (in addition to coaching Easts) was also on the forefront of the SuperLeague war. Gus admitted later he should've managed that period a lot better.

The Narrative (TM) means that all the focus is on that 1995 series, yet it's convenient to ignore the following series where with:

a) The SL-aligned Qld players coming back into the Maroons team AND
b) Games 1 and 3 at Suncorp

Qld got swept 3-0. Apparently the SL-aligned players didn't respect Fatty and there was a lack of cohesion in the Maroons camp.

That 1995 blip aside, Origin has otherwise been very much influenced by the coaching set-up at the time.

Should always be remembered that NSW lost the leaders from 92-94 from that series as well so they were absolutely not unscathed as the narrative goes. When I sank beers with Billy Moore he said all those stories you heard about that series were very true. Gould actually told Vautin afterwards it wasn’t his fault. Only god and Christ would know why the maroons didn’t get destroyed in that series by more.

Fittler’s autobiography really changed my view of that 1995 series

 

[Reflector]

Everyone writes of Fittler as simple jack from Tropic Thunder these days but I feel he should be given more respect. The way he completely reversed that 2017 rubbish immediately has him in my good books. Year after when he dropped Latrell for being lazy aged like fine wine. Copped shit for it but those changes were justified.

Should always be remembered that NSW lost the leaders from 92-94 from that series as well so they were absolutely not unscathed as the narrative goes. When I sank beers with Billy Moore he said all those stories you heard about that series were very true. Gould actually told Vautin afterwards it wasn’t his fault. Only god and Christ would know why the maroons didn’t get destroyed in that series by more.

Fittler’s autobiography really changed my view of that 1995 series

The only specific story I've really heard are that the Broncos contingent in that side more of less told Fatty they only viewed Bennett as their coach...

 

[James Rick]

Origin is as relevant as ever I'm not sure why people are saying the eligibility changes have been done to keep it relevant.

 

[Chins]

Origin is as relevant as ever I'm not sure why people are saying the eligibility changes have been done to keep it relevant.

Think harder.....can't sell the myth its the pinnacle of the sport without the likes of To'o, Critter, Haas ect