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Hands of Kingy you Cafe Lattes

Sir Clifford GC

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Hands off our King

01feb05

MANLY boss Paul Cummings yesterday received assurances from the Sydney Roosters that they hadn't made illegal approaches to prop Jason King as the Sea Eagles went on the front foot in the fight to retain their best young players.

Cummings contacted Roosters chief executive Brian Canavan following reports King was the Roosters' No 1 target for 2006 and would be the subject of a big money offer.

The Sea Eagles were concerned the Roosters were talking to King before the June 30 anti-tampering deadline and were willing to take the matter further until Canavan rang to deny any knowledge of an approach.

Roosters coach Ricky Stuart also phoned Cummings yesterday afternoon, insisting his club was not going behind Manly's back.

"As far as I'm concerned Eastern Suburbs (the Roosters) are a well run club and I have a lot of time for Brian Canavan and Ricky Stuart and I'd be extremely surprised if they were trying to poach one of our players," Cummings said.

"I've got no problem if they've got a desire to sign Jason King we've got the same desire but desire and actually talking to the player are two different things.

"Maybe it's just his (King's) management indulging in some kite flying but I spoke to Brian and Ricky rang me straight away to assure me they had done nothing untoward and I believe them."

Asked if his club was chasing King, Canavan said:

"Jason King has never crossed our desk. There was never an approach."

The Sea Eagles will now step up plans to secure 23-year-old King beyond the 2005 season.

The maroon and whites have signed the majority of their best young players to long term deals and are working hard to ensure the likes of King don't slip the net.

"He will be a priority signing for us and we hope to have something sorted out before June 30," Cummings said.

"He is a fine player, a fine clubman and a local junior."
 

The Colonel

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King of clubs not ace in pack
By Dean Ritchie
February 1, 2005

CONCERN over rumours of an alleged anti-tampering drama yesterday triggered the first player controversy of rugby league's 2005 season.

Manly executive director Paul Cummings rang Roosters chief executive Brian Canavan to question speculation that the Roosters had made an approach to Sea Eagles prop Jason King who is off contract at the end of this season.

The situation prompted Roosters coach Ricky Stuart to announce he was "fed-up" with his club being linked on the rumour-mill to every player coming off contract.

Stuart actually rang Cummings to ask where the rumours about King had started before declaring the Roosters had no intention of signing the 110kg Manly forward.

Stuart also contacted Darryl Mather, of King's management company, to talk about the speculation.

Cummings said Manly would react angrily to any club making approaches to players before the NRL's June 30 anti-tampering deadline.

"I've heard the talk from a source about the Roosters and would be disappointed if it is right," Cummings said.

"Look, the Roosters are an ethical club and I would be surprised if it happened.

"It flies in the face of the game's anti-tampering rules.

"If they have done something then they should back off. If they want to make Jason their priority then that's fine and that is what we have heard. But they can't do anything until after the June 30 deadline.

"We abide by the NRL rules and so should every other club."

Cummings said the club had already kick-started negotiations with King, a Manly junior.

"Jason is our priority - we want him to play out his career here at Manly - like Steve Menzies," Cummings said.

Stuart said the Roosters - despite having a salary cap - seemed to be talking with nearly all players coming off contract.

"Paul Cummings has nothing to worry about. We're not interested in Jason King," Stuart said yesterday.

"We have not approached Jason King or his management.

"But get I fed up with the Roosters consistently being criticised and targeted by people who want to create rumour and innuendo.

"I even rang Paul Cummings today to clarify that we haven't approached Jason King."

Canavan was equally as cranky as Stuart.

"Jason King has never crossed our desk, never crossed our minds," Canavan said last night.

"Where do these 'sources' actually come from?

"We have eight high-quality front-rowers in the club. We have made no approach to Jason King. I find the rumours quite amazing."

The Daily Telegraph
 
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I'll never forget the day at the end of the 1982 season when it was announced that Manly had signed 4 Easts internationals. Kerry Boustead, Noel Cleal, Ian Schubert and John Harvey. Manly supporters are not in a position to cry about losing players to other clubs.
 

innsaneink

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Conspiracy.

Ploy by Manly and Roosters to get media attention. :roll:

Really...........it wouldnt surprise me.
 

innsaneink

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Rooster Cogburn. said:
Why would the Roosters conspire to get media attention?
A stupid statement. :roll:

To take the focus off other teams.....

Any publicity is good publicity.
 

JJ

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Rooster Cogburn. said:
I'll never forget the day at the end of the 1982 season when it was announced that Manly had signed 4 Easts internationals. Kerry Boustead, Noel Cleal, Ian Schubert and John Harvey. Manly supporters are not in a position to cry about losing players to other clubs.

For once I agree with you RC - Manly crying foul over player poaching is very VERY icronic - I'd imagine Wests supporters will see the irony in this too!
 
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How times have changed for the Crap team on the peninsula, they used to steal all the players now its there turn to feel what its like. Not that the roosters need king anyway he would probably make the reserve team......just.
 

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Rooster Cogburn. said:
innsaneink said:
Rooster Cogburn. said:
Why would the Roosters conspire to get media attention?
A stupid statement. :roll:

To take the focus off other teams.....

Any publicity is good publicity.

Why?

Well I dont know.

Look at the article, its a load of crap.
Theres nothing new to come out of it, theres no news, according to both parties nothing has happened.

Maybe its just a bored journo stirrin up shit, just for the helluvit.
 

Stagger eel

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Rooster Cogburn. said:
I'll never forget the day at the end of the 1982 season when it was announced that Manly had signed 4 Easts internationals. Kerry Boustead, Noel Cleal, Ian Schubert and John Harvey. Manly supporters are not in a position to cry about losing players to other clubs.

do you think it was due the 33-0 drubbing that we gave you in the semi final which triggered the move to manly ;-)
 

Stagger eel

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in all seriousness I know for a fact that The Roosters and Parra are 2 clubs continuelly used by player managers as barganing tools, player managers lie! they call bluff! they suspend or stall negotiations and they go to the media to beat it up,as part of the ploy!

they play the game and they do it well!...2 cases in point were the SBW situation with the Dogs, I don't think there's any doubt in my mind he'll sign a new contract for Canterbury before June. And Hindy's manager expressing his dissapointment at the lack of interst and sallery to his client late last year, and threatened to go to the open market in July this year. Guess what??...he signed with the club 2 weeks later. :roll: :roll:
 

Matt M

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Why is this being beat up to be a big thing, all that happened was the Roosters have said they aren't looking to buy King.

Also, I'm sick of people claiming other clubs are poaching and how unfair it is. If the player leaves a club, tough luck.
 

Stagger eel

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Matt M said:
Why is this being beat up to be a big thing, all that happened was the Roosters have said they aren't looking to buy King.

Also, I'm sick of people claiming other clubs are poaching and how unfair it is. If the player leaves a club, tough luck.

read my post!! it's just the player manger playing tidley winks!! Manly! I can't believe how your club fell for it. :roll:
 
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eelavation said:
Rooster Cogburn. said:
I'll never forget the day at the end of the 1982 season when it was announced that Manly had signed 4 Easts internationals. Kerry Boustead, Noel Cleal, Ian Schubert and John Harvey. Manly supporters are not in a position to cry about losing players to other clubs.

do you think it was due the 33-0 drubbing that we gave you in the semi final which triggered the move to manly ;-)

No. it was due to the day when Easts thrashed Manly 40-2 at the sports ground in August of that year. Those 4 blokes carved up Manly that day. Arthurson made the decision that day that those 4 would be in Manly's jersey the following year.
 

JJ

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Rooster Cogburn. said:
eelavation said:
Rooster Cogburn. said:
I'll never forget the day at the end of the 1982 season when it was announced that Manly had signed 4 Easts internationals. Kerry Boustead, Noel Cleal, Ian Schubert and John Harvey. Manly supporters are not in a position to cry about losing players to other clubs.

do you think it was due the 33-0 drubbing that we gave you in the semi final which triggered the move to manly ;-)

No. it was due to the day when Easts thrashed Manly 40-2 at the sports ground in August of that year. Those 4 blokes carved up Manly that day. Arthurson made the decision that day that those 4 would be in Manly's jersey the following year.

:lol: Many and Roosters supporter whinging - priceless.

While I agree RC that Manly are the last team that should complain about these things, a semi final beats a mid season game, something you still don't seem to recognise (except on the rare occasions that the Roosters win big post-season games :shock: )

But Manly whinging about poaching :? :? that's the most bizarre thing I've heard in a long time. Will Greg Dyer complain about poor sportsmanship next? Or Les Boyd expouse the virtues of clean, fair play and controlling one's emotions???
 
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It had nothing to do with the loss to Parra, why would it? It had everything to do with the 40-2 walloping. Ron Jones who was Easts boss at the time told the players that if they didn't want to show any loyalty then they could piss off. Losing those 4 put us in a bad way for a lot of years so in hindsight Jones should've swallowed his pride and re-signed the 4 of them or at least a couple of them. The bottom line is that Manly have never had any scruples when it comes to decimating a club. They did it to Souths, Newtown, Wests and Easts and probably a couple of other clubs as well.
 
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