Has the era of "Buying a Premiership" gone?

[MugaB]

Currently only 6 of the current coaches have a premiership to their name.
Bennett 7
Bellamy, Robinson, Cleary 3 each
Hasler 2
Stuart, Flanagan 1.

The most important buy a club can make is a coach, spend big on the right one and you might be able to buy yourself a premiership.

Oh don't forget guys FoxSports have mentioned numerous times at length, fkn over and over, that the almighty Kevvie "cant coach" walters has won 6 premierships...
....as a player

 

[siv]

Interesting seeing the Riff buying a lot of lower grade players after their juniors did not perform across all grades

 

[MugaB]

Interesting seeing the Riff buying a lot of lower grade players after their juniors did not perform across all grades

Certainly not buying a premiership then, i dont think we've ever tempted a jack wighton type experienced player like souths have lately

 

[Special K]

The way the transfer system is set up has wrecked bad teams unless they can develop from within. This letting players sign in 2023 for 2025 forces clubs to make crazy decisions/bids to ensure they are not left behind. Before they could suck and get to July 1st and sign players for next season for an immediate impact. Now they have to suffer and wait 18 months before they get an Api or a Crichton for example. And as the club that they are at you got to enjoy them for another 12 months before hearing the contract noise/knowing they are leaving.

The bad clubs have to bank on players on inflated contracts to fill the gap/step up and by the time they judge those signings they can't be replaced or moved. Clubs also have different amounts of money available at different times like the Raiders for example. They entered the 2024 market months and months after clubs that had money and all the talent was taken. If they went into a trade window they could have replaced Wighton with a Crichton or someone else before being left with limited options.

The Sharks are trying to be a development club and are 2nd to the Panthers in many metrics around that but we haven't got the right mix yet of existing talent and kids. We signed 1 outsider for this season and currently have 0 new players coming in and are trying to build from our jnrs.

Take a look at the talent market that opens up next month for 2025. Players like Connor Tracey have been given permission to talk early for 25 with other clubs and will spend 2024 trying to get to his contract pulled forward for his 25 club. The system is fried. Nothing is left for 2024 besides trying to get people to break contracts. Why the f**k was Luai's contract a story in 2023 when he can't go anywhere until 2025 if he leaves? Because clubs with money want to try and get him to break 2024(Like the Dogs did with Burton etc) - which obviously he won't do but still that is the story. No other sport has this stupidity.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Its funny but the salary cap isn't there for that reason, its to not blow your budget on players, and the club go under, this whole "player-evening out talent" was a myth, success is cyclical, it wont be long before another team comes up with a different way to win a premiership without being reliant on market buys or local juniors

I've been saying that for years. It was never brought in as a talent equalisation tool, but as one to prevent clubs spending themselves broke after the financial troubles of Wests, Cronulla and Newtown in the 1980s (with Newtown literally going broke) and even Souths having its financial troubles in the early 1970s.

 

[Perth Red]

It may well be byproduct but you can’t say the cap doesn’t cause the dispersion of talent around the comp. it may not be as much as some would like but you do see the second level of talent move around quite a bit from successful teams.

Happened to storm with Finucane, ado-Carr, bromwiches, kaufusi, smith Etc and now happening to panthers.

 

[Canard]

Currently only 6 of the current coaches have a premiership to their name.
Bennett 7
Bellamy, Robinson, Cleary 3 each
Hasler 2
Stuart, Flanagan 1.

The most important buy a club can make is a coach, spend big on the right one and you might be able to buy yourself a premiership.

Adam O'Brien has been a part of many premierships.....

 

[MugaB]

Adam O'Brien has been a part of many premierships.....

 

[MugaB]

It may well be byproduct but you can’t say the cap doesn’t cause the dispersion of talent around the comp. it may not be as much as some would like but you do see the second level of talent move around quite a bit from successful teams.

Happened to storm with Finucane, ado-Carr, bromwiches, kaufusi, smith Etc and now happening to panthers.

By-product yes, but not the intention, so its a stupid case to expect teams to even out player talent, besides, the Bromwichs, Kaufusi, and smith went to market, and dolphins and roosters scooped them up, im sure bellamy would have rather kept 2-3 of them if he could

 

[snickers007]

Interesting seeing the Riff buying a lot of lower grade players after their juniors did not perform across all grades

I wouldn't say 3 players is "a lot". Especially when you consider 1 of the 3 is a returning junior.

And even more so when you consider the amount of players from NRL level AND our pathways that we've lost the last 2-3 years. For season 2023 alone, we lost at least 4 from our NSW Cup squad, and another 4 from Flegg.

Our NSW Cup team next season will be very similar to our NRL team ~90% homegrown.

 

[Someguy]

It’s a big change for Penrith from ‘we in a premiership window’ and throwing everything at Trent Merrin to get the premiership to a team where the big names are players developed by the club.

Melbourne at the same time has started buying established first graders after years of developing players. Clearly in decline

I tend to think teams can still buy a premiership (broncos got close by injecting Reynolds) but in doing so the team suffers in coming years and will struggle to be consistently at the top.

The biggest advantage of having good scouting and pathways is that you can make players look better than they are. Struggling teams then pay overs for players that aren’t as good outside of the system that developed them and/or lose focus in less successful squad. Offload a player that can be replaced by an up and coming junior, lowering your own cap spend and same time blowing out another teams cap

 

[Captain Apollo]

Adam O'Brien has been a part of many premierships.....

This is a year old but anyways....