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RazorRam0n

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I agree he has to be on similar base salary as titans to be worth while (800k)

Surely there are enough tpas that could be put together this time round to secure a return.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Back on topic. You pick some players on form and others who are out of form on reputation from the big stage. If Gallan was out of form you'd pick him because he has the miles in his legs and the steel of mind.

If the team was being picked now Hayne would miss out. A month down the track and 3 or 4 more whole hearted displays and then we makes the team.

Surely even the most anti Hayne merkin woukd agree with that. Even me.
I agree you pick from the 'also ran' players based on form, but Hayne is an elite talent. If he's fit you pick him regardless of form.
 

yy_cheng

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No i havnt heard anything on figures but was told hes desperate to be back, he misses home and misses the club and is prepared to take a cut.
He misses being in control of the team and having the overriding call.

He doesnt have it at the tits and he's also not captain at the tits.

He will improve our attack, defense and long kicking game immensely.

Gutho to 3 although I did like Gutho at 1
 

Chipmunk

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Could he play at lock? Similar to Glenn Stewart and we basically give him a roving role? He' be like a third half.
If Hayne is willing to take a pay cut and we can nab him for $850K. We take him. Positions always sort themselves out. Players get injured, ask for releases etc.

Glenn Stewart played right edge virtually his entire career (wearing 13), Watmough played lock towards the back end of his career (wearing 11).
 

Gronk

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JARRYD Hayne back at the Parramatta Eels.
It’s what blue and gold fans desperately wanted to see after he returned from his foray into the NFL and Rugby Sevens, only for the superstar to shock them and snap up a deal with the Titans. While Hayne couldn’t be accommodated by the Eels in 2016, with the club under an interim boss in the wake of salary cap breaches, he has reportedly reached out to Parra to see if a belated comeback can be arranged.

Hayne, who would ditch a $1.2 million option in his favour for next season should he leave the Gold Coast, remains a tantalising prospect for Eels fans – but would it be a good idea?

Several factors make it a distinct long shot. The move for a deal is one-sided so far, with Hayne’s camp reaching out to the Eels, not vice versa; the club is reportedly wary after missing out last time and being blamed by the superstar, plus Hayne would reportedly need to accept a paycut of $400,000 a season and a possible position change, according to Fairfax; and Parramatta is comfortable with the younger, cheaper and improving players it has covering his position(s).

We break down the main issues of a potential Hayne-to-Eels return.

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Jarryd Hayne during his last stint with the Eels.Source: Getty Images
COULD THE EELS NOW FIT HAYNE INTO THEIR SALARY CAP?

Yes. The club is back at the point where the necessary shuffling could be done to fit in his sizeable salary, should it be deemed a good investment. The big-money players currently on the Eels’ books for 2018 are Mitchell Moses, Corey Norman and Michael Jennings (reported $750,000-$850,000 range).

Despite his undoubted brilliance, it would be a big call for Parramatta to fork out $1 million-plus for Hayne, a figure they are not keen to entertain even with the salary cap rise, and some players would no doubt have to be moved on. Two obvious issues are that the team currently has a decent balance across the field without anyone earning truly elite money and the club are probably more inclined to chase an elite hooker, given they have two strong fullbacks.

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Bevan French: Signed long-term as the Eels’ fullback.Source: News Corp Australia
WHERE COULD HAYNE PLAY AT PARRAMATTA?

Hayne would want to play fullback, as he would be after top-end money and the halves positions are filled by Moses and Norman. While Hayne has previously predicted a late-career move into five-eighth, Moses and Norman would put that on hold and Hayne’s first foray into No.6 was not especially impressive, especially compared to his third-playmaker exploits as a No.1.

Yet throwing Hayne straight back into fullback causes headaches – on top of one that is already emerging during this season.

Bevan French (21), signed through to the end of 2019, is the club’s long-term fullback option. This was set to be his first full season at No.1, before injury intervened and pushed Clint Gutherson (22, also signed through 2019) to fullback, where he has played superbly.

Coach Brad Arthur will have to decide if French returns to fullback immediately in his comeback (which may come this week) and Gutherson goes back to No.6 – which seems likely given makeshift five-eighth Brad Takairangi is now injured. The other potential spanner in the works is Moses being granted a mid-season release, which would see him pitched straight into the side at No.6, leaving French and Gutherson battling for the No.1.

Ultimately, Moses-Norman will be the 2018 halves pairing, meaning Hayne, French and Gutherson would end up in a fullback logjam, where one could be shunted to the wing and another from the side altogether. While Hayne (29) is a superstar, the flipside is that French and Gutherson are both excellent prospects, they are far younger and cheaper, and the Eels are more than comfortable with them in the team moving forward.

Centre is the other position Hayne could fill, yet Jennings is on contract through 2019 (on overs for a centre), 2014 Rabbitohs premiership winner Kirisome Auva’a (off contract) has performed well thus far for the club, while the versatile Takairangi has been excellent value in the backline and is also signed through 2019. As for wing - you just don’t buy a player like Hayne on big money to dump him on the wing, even with Semi Radradra leaving.

Simply, Hayne is not a great fit for the Eels currently unless he shunts other players aside and that is something the club does not seem inclined to do.

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Clint Gutherson has ben an excellent Eels signing and is still just 22.Source: Getty Images
DO THE EELS REALLY WANT HAYNE?

On top of the issues set out above, there’s one thing to remember from Hayne’s first stint at the Eels: They never won anything, despite how brilliantly he played, to the tune of two Dally M Medals.

And reports of Hayne unsettling teammates on the Gold Coast with a slack attitude to training are nothing new: They also surfaced regularly at the Eels, along with the impression that he only aimed up to his truly spectacular best when the mood took him. That took the Eels to a lot of highs – but none that won trophies, while there were also plenty of water-treading periods.

The club would want to be convinced that Hayne returning to the club means he is laser-focused on ticking the one unmarked box in his career: A premiership, something the club infamously hasn’t seen since 1986. If they get the Hayne that dragged NSW to a drought-breaking Origin victory in 2014, any quirks he brings may be worth it. If they get a guy earning big dollars to return to his comfort zone, forget about it.

The noise around Hayne this season, notwithstanding an excellent MOM return from injury on the weekend, is that he is more trouble than he is worth and has few clubs interested given his current lofty price tag.

A refresher: After Hayne became a megastar and a top earner in 2009, the club finished 12th in 2010, 14th in 2011, 16th in 2012, 16th in 2013 and 10th in 2014. That’s two wooden spoons, no finals appearances. Arthur’s team, currently without Hayne, seems to be on a far more promising trajectory than that – and Arthur strikes no one as a coach who would indulge a rockstar, bigger-than-the-team attitude.

His is an outfit that last year was docked 12 points in the salary cap scandal and still had sufficient pride to finish with 13 wins - which would have put them into the finals.

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Jarryd Hayne got two Dally Ms at the Eels but no premiership.Source: News Limited
WOULD IT BE A GOOD MOVE FOR HAYNE?

If the Eels signed Hayne on a multi-year deal, it may be the last contract he signs in the NRL. To some, it would seem fitting that he ends his career at Parramatta, the club his name was synonymous with in the past, to where he was always meant to return once his NFL dreams were realised. A return, provided it came with excellent form, may gradually soothe the awkward feelings of Eels fans who could not understand his Gold Coast move after he swore he would only rejoin the NRL with Parramatta.

From a football perspective, it would also seem to make sense. The Titans (currently 15th) remain a brittle outfit and look some way off being premiership contenders, while the Eels (10th) have genuine upside. The Titans just dropped boom halves prospect Kane Elgey, showing he’s not quite the finished article, while the immensely impressive Ash Taylor continues to be linked with a Broncos raid for 2019. The Eels have a robust pack and Moses alongside Norman is an exciting playmaking proposition, offering hope of a title charge in an NRL landscape ripe for the picking by rising sides. If Hayne took the Eels to a premiership, he would forever be a Parramatta icon, rather than a somewhat-frustrating highlights machine.

One thing Hayne probably wouldn’t relish is a return to the Sydney media scene - although with his constant presence in the news, it would be like turning up the heat from 500 degrees celsius to 700. And with the end of his career closer than the start, a return to a major media market would allow him to better push his off-field enterprises.

The final verdict? At this stage, pretty unlikely.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...h/news-story/96252c5c1b5ee7908223e2a9bf93e962
 
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I think we can all be sure of one thing, BA wont be paying titans money.
With the cap going up next year i would guess it would be somewhere between our last offer and the 1m mark but thats only a guess.
If he comes id also be guessing we will be moving away from our 'moving away from TPAs' policy to get him.
Surely he could get some good TPAs and we'd be crazy not to take that route.
Lets hope the happy hand clapper isnt playing us for the fool here.
 

Chipmunk

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I think we can all be sure of one thing, BA wont be paying titans money.
With the cap going up next year i would guess it would be somewhere between our last offer and the 1m mark but thats only a guess.
If he comes id also be guessing we will be moving away from our 'moving away from TPAs' policy to get him.
Surely he could get some good TPAs and we'd be crazy not to take that route.
Lets hope the happy hand clapper isnt playing us for the fool here.

Moving away from TPAs? Surely we're not considering doing that? We'd be moving away from ever being a Premiership contender.
 

Johnny88

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If Hayne returned do you think we would have the best backline in the comp?
I thought eventually that Hayne would deliver this to us fans one day?
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Picture courtesy by Gronk.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Moving away from TPAs? Surely we're not considering doing that? We'd be moving away from ever being a Premiership contender.
The fans made pretty clear they'd rather the club be squeaky clean than bend the rules. The rules state that TPAs can't be paid as an inducement to play for any given club. If we are organising TPAs for players to play for us then we are breaking the rules - something the fans don't want.
 

Suitman

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The fans made pretty clear they'd rather the club be squeaky clean than bend the rules. The rules state that TPAs can't be paid as an inducement to play for any given club. If we are organising TPAs for players to play for us then we are breaking the rules - something the fans don't want.

The Titans didn't arrange them to induce Hayne there in the first place?
 

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