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Hindy atricle in the Telegraph

Glenn

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Nathan has said he wants a sufficient pay rise or else he is gone next season when his contract expires. I say give him what he wants now he deserves it. Intersting reading.
 

strider

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Don't worry, surely 5 or 6 disgruntled players will leave before then to free up some cash :?
 

thedux

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I think there are some poignant points from the article; he said that results will dictate whether he stays; the coach will be important; but that he wants to stay. Whilst I don't think he has proven to be in the Sterling/Kenny class YET, it is only a matter of longevity stopping him. I really believe if he is not re-signed because of a money issue, all fans should be seriously considering a boycott of games. I know that one player does not make the club but this guy has busted his preverbial for the last 3-4 years and will continue to do so. I think this thread should be kept in recycle mode until June 30/Grand-final (whichever is decided) next year and then all fans can make their decision on what they think of the admin.
 

MrT

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Hindmarsh tells Parra to pay up
By PETER BADEL
August 8, 2004
NATHAN Hindmarsh wants a pay rise and will consider Parramatta's fortunes next season before pledging his future to the embattled club.


Making an impact: Nathan Hindmarsh powers through the Newcastle defence this season. Picture: ROBERT McKELL
The NSW and Test back-rower found an ally in Eels legend Brett Kenny, who said Hindmarsh should receive $400,000 a season as one of the top six players in the code.

In a wide-ranging interview, Hindmarsh opened up to The Sunday Telegraph about the Eels' horrific season, which he rated the most challenging period of his six-year career.

The 24-year-old also spoke of his disappointment at the mass exodus of former team-mates, his desire to win a premiership and claims he is undervalued by the Eels.

Six weeks ago, Hindmarsh watched the club embark on a multi-million dollar recruitment drive, which netted Timana Tahu, Glenn Morrison, Mark Riddell and Paul Stringer.

It is understood Stringer is the lowest paid of the newcomers, receiving an estimated $220,000 per season, with the remaining trio each commanding between $270,000 and $350,000 a year.

Off-contract next season, Hindmarsh signed a four-year deal in 2001 worth a reported $250,000 a year.

But the tackling machine believes he is worth more and says his future in the blue and gold hinges on Parramatta's performances in 2005.

"Look, I can't complain with what I'm on, but I'd like an upgrade next year. That comes down to Parramatta in the end," Hindmarsh said.

"There's a rumour the new blokes have been signed to massive contracts, although I don't know how true that is.

"But when my contract runs out, I have to look at my future and see where I go. I'll be 26 next year and the next contract is the most important I'll sign in my career.

"It might be the last contract I ever sign, so I want to make the right decision.

"I'm hoping the club gets some results next year. I play rugby league to win a premiership and you wouldn't sign at a non-successful club, I'd have to look at the players they've got and the coach they've got before I sign anywhere.

"I'd like to remain an Eel for a long time, but we'll wait and see what happens. I'll play the cards I'm dealt."


Kenny, who played a record 265 first-grade games for the club, said Hindmarsh should be Parramatta's highest-paid player.

"The top blokes today are getting between $300,000 and $400,000 – Nathan should be looking at the $400,000 mark," Kenny said.

"In my eyes, he is one of the top half-a-dozen players in the NRL. If Darren Lockyer and Brad Fittler are on $400,000, Nathan should get that too.

"Parramatta just can't afford to lose him – but if they don't perform next season, they are pretty much going to lose him. If the Eels keep him, it's going to cost them a lot of money."

Hindmarsh's financial concerns, however, are not as pressing as Parramatta's dramatic freefall.

Three years ago, the club was smashing records on its way to the minor premiership and there was talk of a premiership dynasty. Now Hindmarsh could be a member of the first Parramatta squad in 32 years to claim the wooden spoon.

The competitor in Hindmarsh is hurting. He hasn't played a semi-final in three years, and has been gutted by the departures of several big names, headed by Jamie Lyon, Andrew Ryan and his brother, Ian.

"Since I started here in 1998, there's been the odd drama, but this year has taken the cake," Hindmarsh said.

"If you look at the squad we had on paper at the start of the year, we've been the biggest underachievers by far. That's not bagging the boys, but we've had a bad season.

"It's hard to accept the year is pretty much over for us, but we've got the spoon hanging over us so we have to pull our finger out."


The Sunday Telegraph


I'll be nervous all year until I hear that he resigns, that's if he resigns
 

Utey

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Geez anyone but Hindy. He isnt going to exactly say he wants the coach to leave so who knows what he really wants and what his thinking. He is worth it but 400000, thats a lot of our cap. I think next year we will have all guns blazing from round one. Next year is our year if any. And we need to keep Hindy at all costs.
 

Eelementary

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WOW.

I never pictured Hindy as the sort of bloke who would play footy just for the money involved.

I mean, don't get me wrong - if anyone deserves a pay rise, it's him.

It's just kind of disheartening that he is implying that the only thing keeping him at Parramatta is the money.

:(
 

The Colonel

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$400k is a lot but for a bloke who is easily our best player its not that much different to any other club. Name the highest paid player at any club and generally they are the best player.

Next year Hindy may well be paid less than Tahu, Riddell, Cayless and Morrison but would still carry more importance for where the team finishes than those four come the end of the season.
 

strider

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I've said all along the bst thing to try to retain Hindy is to get some other quality players around him.....Morrison, Riddell, etc are just that.....while people are worried we spent too much money on them, I believe buying them was the best step we could take towards retaining Hindy because it will make us more competative.

And I believe the club would be well aware they have to fork out some big money for Hindy....I don't think we are content to see guys like Vaeiliki and Dykes take their money elsewhere for nothing - clearing the account book now at least gives you some flexibility later on.

I also like how Brett Kenny has jumped in with his opinion....make sure its a big issue Bert - of course there's nothing in it for you to make our situation seem bad - not like you want to coach the team or anything eh. :roll: ....don't get me wrong, Kenny was my hero as a kid, but I don't like politics getting involved too heavily in our club.
 

Utey

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Elementry thats how i feel. IF you are only staying for the money why play at all. I guess he puts in 110% every week and comes away with a loss. Its pretty hard to handle and this is evident from the way he has played over the last couple of weeks.
 

Eelementary

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MrT said:
Hindmarsh tells Parra to pay up
By PETER BADEL
August 8, 2004
NATHAN Hindmarsh wants a pay rise and will consider Parramatta's fortunes next season before pledging his future to the embattled club.


Making an impact: Nathan Hindmarsh powers through the Newcastle defence this season. Picture: ROBERT McKELL
The NSW and Test back-rower found an ally in Eels legend Brett Kenny, who said Hindmarsh should receive $400,000 a season as one of the top six players in the code.

In a wide-ranging interview, Hindmarsh opened up to The Sunday Telegraph about the Eels' horrific season, which he rated the most challenging period of his six-year career.

The 24-year-old also spoke of his disappointment at the mass exodus of former team-mates, his desire to win a premiership and claims he is undervalued by the Eels.

Six weeks ago, Hindmarsh watched the club embark on a multi-million dollar recruitment drive, which netted Timana Tahu, Glenn Morrison, Mark Riddell and Paul Stringer.

It is understood Stringer is the lowest paid of the newcomers, receiving an estimated $220,000 per season, with the remaining trio each commanding between $270,000 and $350,000 a year.

Off-contract next season, Hindmarsh signed a four-year deal in 2001 worth a reported $250,000 a year.

But the tackling machine believes he is worth more and says his future in the blue and gold hinges on Parramatta's performances in 2005.

"Look, I can't complain with what I'm on, but I'd like an upgrade next year. That comes down to Parramatta in the end," Hindmarsh said.

"There's a rumour the new blokes have been signed to massive contracts, although I don't know how true that is.

"But when my contract runs out, I have to look at my future and see where I go. I'll be 26 next year and the next contract is the most important I'll sign in my career.

"It might be the last contract I ever sign, so I want to make the right decision.

"I'm hoping the club gets some results next year. I play rugby league to win a premiership and you wouldn't sign at a non-successful club, I'd have to look at the players they've got and the coach they've got before I sign anywhere.

"I'd like to remain an Eel for a long time, but we'll wait and see what happens. I'll play the cards I'm dealt."


Kenny, who played a record 265 first-grade games for the club, said Hindmarsh should be Parramatta's highest-paid player.

"The top blokes today are getting between $300,000 and $400,000 – Nathan should be looking at the $400,000 mark," Kenny said.

"In my eyes, he is one of the top half-a-dozen players in the NRL. If Darren Lockyer and Brad Fittler are on $400,000, Nathan should get that too.

"Parramatta just can't afford to lose him – but if they don't perform next season, they are pretty much going to lose him. If the Eels keep him, it's going to cost them a lot of money."

Hindmarsh's financial concerns, however, are not as pressing as Parramatta's dramatic freefall.

Three years ago, the club was smashing records on its way to the minor premiership and there was talk of a premiership dynasty. Now Hindmarsh could be a member of the first Parramatta squad in 32 years to claim the wooden spoon.

The competitor in Hindmarsh is hurting. He hasn't played a semi-final in three years, and has been gutted by the departures of several big names, headed by Jamie Lyon, Andrew Ryan and his brother, Ian.

"Since I started here in 1998, there's been the odd drama, but this year has taken the cake," Hindmarsh said.

"If you look at the squad we had on paper at the start of the year, we've been the biggest underachievers by far. That's not bagging the boys, but we've had a bad season.

"It's hard to accept the year is pretty much over for us, but we've got the spoon hanging over us so we have to pull our finger out."


The Sunday Telegraph


I'll be nervous all year until I hear that he resigns, that's if he resigns


That is so depressing.

P.S. (I had no idea he was 26? I thought he was younger...)
 

strider

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It's just kind of disheartening that he is implying that the only thing keeping him at Parramatta is the money.

I don't think he is implying money is all that matters....but lets face it, he is entitled to his fair chunk of the pie and he knows it.

I see no problem with him expecting $350K+ ....he is a top quality player....and ll players know they have to set themselves up for life with their footy careers....not everyone will be offered lucrative TV careers after footy - and I don't see Hindy wanting anything like that anyway, so he needs to get a comfortable life from playing footy.

I'd be happy for our club to give him up to $400K to keep him.....he should also remember he'll be coming up on the 10yr rule soon so he'll be one of our guys who gets a bit of the $100K not included in the cap.
 

strider

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Elementry thats how i feel. IF you are only staying for the money why play at all. I guess he puts in 110% every week and comes away with a loss. Its pretty hard to handle and this is evident from the way he has played over the last couple of weeks.


I think you've answered your own question/issue there...."I guess he puts in 110% every week and comes away with a loss".....I don't think its ALL about money - he wants to win.

If we have a good season next year I believe he will stay for any decent offer.
 

Eelementary

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Well, the way I read the article, it sounded as though he is sick of not being competitive (as he should be), and depending upon coaching, pay rise and etc. he'll stay or leave.

Obviously, he deserves it.

But it seems as though he is not a happy chappy at the Eels anymore.

And that is not good.
 

Utey

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Yeh lets hope so. What youve said is right however the 2001 heartbreak probably cut up everyone and now 3 seasons of pretty much poor preformances blamed on injury has got to him. Show him the money!
 

Eelementary

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I'm not looking forward to next year.

Yes, we will have better backs and better forwards.

However, thehalves are still an issue.

And now Hindy has issued a warning that based on the team's performnace next year, he may or may not be an Eel after 2005. This will place a lot of pressure on the team, coach, etc. to perform.

I am just not happy abut 2005 anymore.
 

Eelectrica

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Eelementary said:
It's just kind of disheartening that he is implying that the only thing keeping him at Parramatta is the money.
I didn't read it that way, I read it more that he wants to play finals football and win a premiership. Of course he wants to be paid as well. Money and how committed a team is to winning a premiership is also important. Right now I don't think he sees Parra as being real commited to winning much of anything.
 

Eelementary

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Eelectrica said:
Eelementary said:
It's just kind of disheartening that he is implying that the only thing keeping him at Parramatta is the money.
I didn't read it that way, I read it more that he wants to play finals football and win a premiership. Of course he wants to be paid as well. Money and how committed a team is to winning a premiership is also important. Right now I don't think he sees Parra as being real commited to winning much of anything.

That is quite obvious.

Why, then, does Hindy publicly go out and support our stale coach? Hmm... :-k
 

wittyz chick

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I read in (i think) the Herald that Parra are already negotiating with him (or maybe i just read it wrong) but seriously if he leaves i will not be happy!! :evil: :x

I think he's most pissed off that 'this is his third yr of NOT playing finals footy'
 
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