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Horn vs Tszyu

SBD82

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If I’m being honest, I’m not a big enough follower of boxing to make an educated guess. Only really watch it when my mate, who had a few amateur fights, wants to go for a ppv at the pub.

Watching Tszyu’s highlights reel is pretty incredible though. Certainly no doubting his paternity. The similarities to his old man are striking. No pun intended.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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MMA killed boxing for me.
UFC is just way better in every way.
But go TSZYU.
Many people agree with you for sure. I’m one of the few that prefer boxing. I don’t know why but I never really get into UFC much unless it’s an Aussie fighting or someone I want to see get KO’d like McGregor. When it’s good though it can be great.
 

Crush

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Many people agree with you for sure. I’m one of the few that prefer boxing. I don’t know why but I never really get into UFC much unless it’s an Aussie fighting or someone I want to see get KO’d like McGregor. When it’s good though it can be great.
Yeah fair enough.
Like anything once you get to know all the fighters it becomes intriguing.
Then there are the programs like the ultimate fighter which show new talent coming through in a crazy American reality show format.
I've watched UFC from the beginning.
Got into it in the early days, fascinating stuff.
 

Gareth67

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Horn by knockout in the very early rounds ! Horn has been hit by some sledgehammer blows in his career and has still managed to come back with his own .

He will be too strong , tough and almost impossible to put away by the young Tzysu who in my opinion should had sidestepped Horn to fight another .

Tzysu is a very good boxer , whereas Horn is a slugger from the ‘old school’ , he will keep going until the cows come home .

Should Horn knock him out , it will be the end of Tzysu’s dream for a title . He simply does not have the arsenal needed to make a dent in Horn .
 
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blacksafake

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Horn by knockout in the very early rounds ! Horn has been hit by some sledgehammer blows in his career and has still managed to come back with his own .

He will be too strong , tough and almost impossible to put away by the young Tzysu who in my opinion should had sidestepped Horn to fight another .

Should Horn knock him out , it will be the end of Tzysu’s dream for a title . He simply does not have the arsenal needed to make a dent in Horn .
Agree Gareth :thumbsup:
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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Horn by knockout in the very early rounds ! Horn has been hit by some sledgehammer blows in his career and has still managed to come back with his own .

He will be too strong , tough and almost impossible to put away by the young Tzysu who in my opinion should had sidestepped Horn to fight another .

Should Horn knock him out , it will be the end of Tzysu’s dream for a title . He simply does not have the arsenal needed to make a dent in Horn .
I agree Gareth, I think he took the fight too soon. Hopefully he can get it done but as you say this could end his career. I have been following both careers closely and really think Tim needed at least 3-4 good fights before attempting this. It’s still intriguing though. Zerafa is better than both though I reckon.
 

Gareth67

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I agree Gareth, I think he took the fight too soon. Hopefully he can get it done but as you say this could end his career. I have been following both careers closely and really think Tim needed at least 3-4 good fights before attempting this. It’s still intriguing though. Zerafa is better than both though I reckon.

Yes Horn was most fortunate to getaway with the win against Zerafa in their second clash F.C.D. he was undoubtedly seeing the stars of the universe at the time when he connected to Zerafa’s chin .

But that is exactly what I was referring to - he will never surrender and this is the greatest danger for the young Tzysu . I do not believe that he has faced such an unforgiving opponent such as Horn before in his career.

I genuinely fear for the young mans wellbeing in this fight . I believe that he has bitten off more than he can chew .

And yes Zerafa would be the better , 2 fights with Horn with a win and came within of whisker of a second .
 
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Forbes Creek Dragons

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Yes Horn was most fortunate to getaway with the win against Zerafa in their second clash F.C.D. he was undoubtedly seeing the stars of the universe at the time when he connected to Zerafa’s chin .

But that is exactly what I was referring to - he will never surrender and this is the greatest danger for the young Tzysu . I do not believe that he has faced such an unforgiving opponent such as Horn before in his career.

I genuinely fear for the young mans wellbeing in this fight . I believe that he has bitten of a bit more than he can chew .
Yep agree, he has that same patient stalking style like his old man but haven’t seen the raw power as yet. I don’t think he can be smart and patient vs Horn. He won’t have any room, Horn will be in his face from round 1. Interesting to see what his game plan is.
 

Gareth67

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Yep agree, he has that same patient stalking style like his old man but haven’t seen the raw power as yet. I don’t think he can be smart and patient vs Horn. He won’t have any room, Horn will be in his face from round 1. Interesting to see what his game plan is.

The only thing that I can imagine is that they may be hoping that Horn rushes Tzysu from the opening bell . If this is what Horn does - rushes in and take the bait , Tzysu could hit him often enough to cut - and Horn is a renown bleeder - in the hope off an early end to the fight .

The reason why I say ‘ bait ‘ is that they , Tzysu and also his handlers have belittled Horn ever since the fight was announced.

Suggesting that he was over the hill and also arrogant. He Horn deserves respect as he was the world champion and nobody gave him the title , he slugged it from one of boxing’s great in an aging Manny Paquino ( although out of his prime he could still hit hard ) . He then defended his title against Britain’s Gary Corcoran , another tough son off a butch.

I also noticed that young Tzysu has put on a lot of extra poundage for this fight , fortunately it is all muscle and this will only enhance his punching power . So we have the young lion taking on the older .

May the better man win .
 
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redandwhite4evr

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Horn by knockout in the very early rounds ! Horn has been hit by some sledgehammer blows in his career and has still managed to come back with his own .

He will be too strong , tough and almost impossible to put away by the young Tzysu who in my opinion should had sidestepped Horn to fight another .

Tzysu is a very good boxer , whereas Horn is a slugger from the ‘old school’ , he will keep going until the cows come home .

Should Horn knock him out , it will be the end of Tzysu’s dream for a title . He simply does not have the arsenal needed to make a dent in Horn .

Hard to argue with your reasoning Gaz- it's a State of Origin bout- nice little warm up for later in the year. The only problem for Horn is his tendency to cut- in his last bout with Zerafa, he was actually saved from defeat when being pummeled in the ninth round and the referee stopped the fight to have him checked by the doctor with blood pouring down his face. This bought him some recovery time and he came back to floor Zerafa and ultimately win on points. The Zerafa camp blew up deluxe after the fight.
 

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If Horn is allowed to get in close early and rough Tszyu up, it wouldn't surprise me if Horn puts him on the canvas before half distance. But Tszyu's strength is his range, so if he can compose himself and control the distance early and causes Horn to miss and tire himself out, Tszyu could rack up a decent lead pretty quickly and have Horn playing catch up which will be hard to overcome when fighting a range opponent.

It's a tough one, Tszyu with that wide stance, long reach and speed causes opponents to miss and is a realistic chance of a points decision, but Horn is battle hardened, awkward and i expect him to be the bigger body and therefore if i was having a bet, i'd probably put it on Horn for a KO in the mid to later rounds.

I like Horn, would be happy to see him win, but Tszuy has the world stage at his feet if he wins this one and ohhh what i would give to have another Aussie flying the flag like his Dad did. Head says Horn, heart says Tszyu.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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The only thing that I can imagine is that they may be hoping that Horn rushed Tzysu from the opening bell . They , Tzysu himself and his camp , have belittling Horn’s achievements ever since this fight was announced.

If this is what Horn does - rushes in and take the bait Tzysu could hit him hard enough to cut - and Horn is a renown bleeder in the hope off an early end to the fight .

Suggesting that he was over the hill and also arrogant. He Horn deserves respect as he was the world champion and nobody gave him the title , he slugged it from one of boxing’s great in an aging Manny Paquino ( although out of his prime he could still hit hard ) . He then defended his title against Britain’s Gary Corcoran , another tough son off a butch.

However it’s good to sit back and be a armchair critic , just as long as we never meet either one of these gentlemen in a dark alley one cold winters night . :flushed:
Indeed, it’s going to be intriguing anyway. Hopefully we see Tim pushed and rise to the challenge but I wouldn’t bet on it.
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

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If Horn is allowed to get in close early and rough Tszyu up, it wouldn't surprise me if Horn puts him on the canvas before half distance. But Tszyu's strength is his range, so if he can compose himself and control the distance early and causes Horn to miss and tire himself out, Tszyu could rack up a decent lead pretty quickly and have Horn playing catch up which will be hard to overcome when fighting a range opponent.

It's a tough one, Tszyu with that wide stance, long reach and speed causes opponents to miss and is a realistic chance of a points decision, but Horn is battle hardened, awkward and i expect him to be the bigger body and therefore if i was having a bet, i'd probably put it on Horn for a KO in the mid to later rounds.

I like Horn, would be happy to see him win, but Tszuy has the world stage at his feet if he wins this one and ohhh what i would give to have another Aussie flying the flag like his Dad did. Head says Horn, heart says Tszyu.
I’m in the exact same boat. Reminds me of Gasniers debut. Was wondering if he would live up to his uncle. IMO he certainly did although in a short career. I like both boxers, but I feel Horn has probably done all he will do and probably finish his career going through the Aussie circuit while Tszyu hasn’t reached his peak yet. Dangerous and maybe stupid fight for him at this point.
 

Gareth67

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If Horn is allowed to get in close early and rough Tszyu up, it wouldn't surprise me if Horn puts him on the canvas before half distance. But Tszyu's strength is his range, so if he can compose himself and control the distance early and causes Horn to miss and tire himself out, Tszyu could rack up a decent lead pretty quickly and have Horn playing catch up which will be hard to overcome when fighting a range opponent.

It's a tough one, Tszyu with that wide stance, long reach and speed causes opponents to miss and is a realistic chance of a points decision, but Horn is battle hardened, awkward and i expect him to be the bigger body and therefore if i was having a bet, i'd probably put it on Horn for a KO in the mid to later rounds.

I like Horn, would be happy to see him win, but Tszuy has the world stage at his feet if he wins this one and ohhh what i would give to have another Aussie flying the flag like his Dad did. Head says Horn, heart says Tszyu.

A bleeder did you say buddy ? Good lawd , the man looked as if he walked straight out of a abattoir in his last fight . And that is exactly what the young bloke could end up like if the fight goes on to the latter rounds .
 

SAP58

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Having watched their recent fights I will go for Tszyu. Horn has taken a lot of punishment in his career especially in his last couple of fights with Zerafa which has to take its toll. As others have said Horn was goooone when the ref stopped the fight in round 9 to let the Doctor look at his cut which gave him the breather he needed. He is a brawler and unorthodox which is one of the reasons he gets cut from head clashes. If Tszyu finds his range I see him winning comfortably on points, his last fight with Brubaker showed how he can continually gets past a defence and accumulate punches. His risk is getting hit by one of Horn's punches from left field which he is capable of, ask Zerafa. Should be a good one !
 

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