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I hate Full Tilt

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Full Tilt has the best range of tournaments, but it is a f**king abysmal site because you just simply cannot run the odds. Basically, if you play against sh*t players you have no hope and in the small $ tourneys, they're everywhere. They will outdraw you so often you'll think it's a career. I get beat from behind so much I'm thinking of openening a B&D brothel with the proceeds.

There is nowhere to start at tilt unless you want to put a grand in it and play $5 tourneys to play slighly better players.

Laast straw for me was today, genius pushing over and over, I pull jacks, call his all-in, he has 5/5.

Table comes...

9/8/7/J/6

And don't defend that site, it's f**king sh*t. If you disagree that's fine, just top yourself you idiot.

They won't get 1 cent more from me, I'll make my next deposit at poker stars where I've built up to $35 from nothing.

f**k you tilt, you merkins.
 

Tommy Smith

Referee
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Same sh*t happened to me on Full Tilt. I put about $200 in because the $60 entry tourny with 1st place $1000 (42 entries) looked enticing but i continually copped bad beats.

The final straw came when i was chip leader and the following happened...I had my AK beaten by AQ after a Q hit on the river. Then two hands later i had 10 10 beaten by 88 when an 8 hit on the river.

About two more hands later i had KK up against 77. The board came:

6 5 8 9 ...

Maybe people say this all the time, but i genuinely couldnt get anything to hold in my short time there and whenever i needed alittle help i got nothing.

So i went back to PStars...they're all dodgy if you ask me, but Tilt took the cake during my time there.
 
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Same sh*t happened to me on Full Tilt. I put about $200 in because the $60 entry tourny with 1st place $1000 (42 entries) looked enticing but i continually copped bad beats.

The final straw came when i was chip leader and the following happened...I had my AK beaten by AQ after a Q hit on the river. Then two hands later i had 10 10 beaten by 88 when an 8 hit on the river.

About two more hands later i had KK up against 77. The board came:

6 5 8 9 ...

Maybe people say this all the time, but i genuinely couldnt get anything to hold in my short time there and whenever i needed alittle help i got nothing.

So i went back to PStars...they're all dodgy if you ask me, but Tilt took the cake during my time there.

Can't get over just how many times things like that happen at tilt but not at stars.

At stars if I pull trips on the flop, even against a flush draw, I'll still win the hand more often than I'll lose it. If I go in with Aces or Kings, I win plenty more than I lose. I can't say the same about tilt, I doubt that I win 30% of hands where I have AA or KK against one other player.

One hand in the Ferguson the other day, I'm shortstacked and pull Kings, this is over an hour into the tourney, so I pull the trigger. I'm on the button with 2 limpers behind me. The small and big blinds call and one of the limpers calls too.

The limper has AA, small blind has QQ and big blind has 10/10.

Flop comes JJ10 rainbow, turn 9, river 8.

I've read plenty about tilt, about there software setting up big hands to move the tourneys on..... I think it's true.

One beaut last night at Stars though, I limped in with J/10 suited, flop came JJJ, we all checked, Q on the turn, two players all-in before me, both with a Q... lol
 
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This is exactly the f**king sh*t I'm talking about.

Today's ferguson.

lollipoper raises pre-flop, I push him back, he goes all-in, I call.
damn.jpg
 
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Bumble

First Grade
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Lol, give it up EA and delete the sh*t off your computer.

Thinking about how often crap like that screenshot of yours above happened to me online, and then contrasting it with how often things like that happen to me in live poker, I'm convinced it's bent at least to some degree.
 
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Yeah, me too. Trouble is I don't have the time to get to live tourneys so online is where I'll be staying.

Had a funny one last night too on tilt again, bloke kept raising pre-flop but I noticed he was taking a little bit of extra time when he was raising with sh*t. So, I'm sitting there with K/J suited, he raised 5 times the BB and I went over the top, all-in.

The bloke calls me with 5/10 unsuited and as usual, pulls two pair and takes the pot (I was still in). Then he has the hide to abuse me for going all-in with K/J lol

When someone politely pointed out to him that pushing with K/J suited was a lot smarter than calling for all your chips with 10/5 unsuited, he shut up. lol
 

ledzep

Bench
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Lol, give it up EA and delete the sh*t off your computer.

Thinking about how often crap like that screenshot of yours above happened to me online, and then contrasting it with how often things like that happen to me in live poker, I'm convinced it's bent at least to some degree.
Think about how many more hands you're playing online...
 
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I've found that the low end ring games at stars tend to suit my style, tight aggressive. Because they're only 1 and 2 cent blinds I can play more hands and set-up the looser players. And there are plenty of them.

I reckon I'm 25 bucks up in the last 3 weeks. (Sure, small time but I did start from nothing).
 

Ghoulies

Bench
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I was playing live poker last month at the casino and I got set-over-set'd 3 times in a 4 hour session. Obviously the dealer was a cheat.
People who will call off all their chips pre-flop with K/4 online wouldn't be game to do it live.
Which is a shame, because I do like to make money playing live poker too.
 

Deacon

First Grade
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Lost a $450 dollar pot on Monday which I invested $200 into, my pocket 6's looked awesome after pushing all in post flop which involved just a 2, 3, and 6 all different suits but one spade got called by an Ace Queen of Spades and u can guess the turn and river cards, FFS
 

The Gambler

Juniors
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Lost a $450 dollar pot on Monday which I invested $200 into, my pocket 6's looked awesome after pushing all in post flop which involved just a 2, 3, and 6 all different suits but one spade got called by an Ace Queen of Spades and u can guess the turn and river cards, FFS
Oh now that is farked.
 

HevyDevy

Coach
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Can't get over just how many times things like that happen at tilt but not at stars.

At stars if I pull trips on the flop, even against a flush draw, I'll still win the hand more often than I'll lose it. If I go in with Aces or Kings, I win plenty more than I lose. I can't say the same about tilt, I doubt that I win 30% of hands where I have AA or KK against one other player.

One hand in the Ferguson the other day, I'm shortstacked and pull Kings, this is over an hour into the tourney, so I pull the trigger. I'm on the button with 2 limpers behind me. The small and big blinds call and one of the limpers calls too.

The limper has AA, small blind has QQ and big blind has 10/10.

Flop comes JJ10 rainbow, turn 9, river 8.

I've read plenty about tilt, about there software setting up big hands to move the tourneys on..... I think it's true.

One beaut last night at Stars though, I limped in with J/10 suited, flop came JJJ, we all checked, Q on the turn, two players all-in before me, both with a Q... lol

You do realise that if you're all in in a tournament more than twice the entire time then the odds say you will be eliminated don't you? Even if you're ahead every time.

Plus playing low limits the players aren't good enough to fold.

I was discussing this last night with an $800/$1600 cash game player who said the same problem doesn't apply at the higher limits because it's enough money to make people care.

Even in a $5 tourney nobody cares.

And here's the dilemma - it's so hard to improve your game playing against spastics yet how do you build a bankroll without starting from the low limits?

Anyway, the best advice I ever got was to stop playing APL and NPL.
 

Whos Ya Daddy

First Grade
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You do realise that if you're all in in a tournament more than twice the entire time then the odds say you will be eliminated don't you? Even if you're ahead every time.

Plus playing low limits the players aren't good enough to fold.

I was discussing this last night with an $800/$1600 cash game player who said the same problem doesn't apply at the higher limits because it's enough money to make people care.

Even in a $5 tourney nobody cares.

And here's the dilemma - it's so hard to improve your game playing against spastics yet how do you build a bankroll without starting from the low limits?

Anyway, the best advice I ever got was to stop playing APL and NPL.

Play tight and let donks pay you off. Open up your game the higher the limit, and generally more tight aggressive, the table is.

Durrrrr
 

Bumble

First Grade
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You do realise that if you're all in in a tournament more than twice the entire time then the odds say you will be eliminated don't you? Even if you're ahead every time.

Plus playing low limits the players aren't good enough to fold.

I was discussing this last night with an $800/$1600 cash game player who said the same problem doesn't apply at the higher limits because it's enough money to make people care.

Even in a $5 tourney nobody cares.

And here's the dilemma - it's so hard to improve your game playing against spastics yet how do you build a bankroll without starting from the low limits?

Anyway, the best advice I ever got was to stop playing APL and NPL.

APL is streets ahead of NPL.
 

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