Injury Updates

[Poupou Escobar]

Why was it added security? He has a 5yr deal and on more then prior

ffs

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So are you saying that if he misses more than 16 game we'll win more?

Obviously

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Why was it added security? He has a 5yr deal and on more then prior

I think (hope) he's joking mate.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Who else has starred in NSW Cup that you consider a backup?? Anyone we might know??

Dude who got an NRL contract with another club to be their backup, proving that he is a worthy backup? Though I wouldn't say Jake Arthur starred in NSW Cup. But he was very good for his age.

 

[84 Baby]

As Clay Davis used to say: "Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!"

I was thinking more that time McNulty and Bunk investigated the murder scene at the woman’s apartment

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I was thinking more that time McNulty and Bunk investigated the murder scene at the woman’s apartment

f**k. f**k. f**k. f**k. f**k. f**k…

 

[Eelementary]

He missed 16 games last year and we still won 7. If he only misses 6 games, we should still make the finals.

Fair enough.

I think we need a strong start to the season, which is not really feasible now.

 

[Eelementary]

He and Volkman have both starred in NSW Cup. It's a good sign for a backup.

Dean Hawkins - that's his name!

He reminded me of a Chad Townsend type - no frills, but gets the job done.

He might be a good replacement at 7 while Moses gets fit.

Volkman has ability, as well.

 

[the phantom menace]

Why was it added security? He has a 5yr deal and on more then prior

Moses would be laughing just like the guy in my gif, in making the choice to bargain away his POs for more money. It was just always Pou's flimsy argument, that POs offer a player more security for less money in the player's pocket.

 

[the phantom menace]

Year	Win % without Cleary	Win % with Cleary
2021	63% (8 game sample)	95% (20 games)
2022	80% (10 games)	88% (17 games)
2023	80% (5 games)	77% (22 games)
2024	64% (14 games)	85% (13 games)

They went better without Cleary in 2023!

Must be a shit player based on those stats alone, hey...

 

[the phantom menace]

He activated those PO years and we gave him an extra one on top. Nobody canceled any PO.

Lol. Check the registered annual salary genius - if it's different, then the previous POs didn't stand, and were signed away in a new contract.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Moses would be laughing just like the guy in my gif, in making the choice to bargain away his POs for more money. It was just always Pou's flimsy argument, that POs offer a player more security for less money in the player's pocket.

You just admitted a contract without a PO costs more than one with it.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They went better without Cleary in 2023!

Must be a shit player based on those stats alone, hey...

Obviously he was only shit in 2023.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Lol. Check the registered annual salary genius - if it's different, then the previous POs didn't stand, and were signed away in a new contract.

Oh right, and now there's no risk of him turning out to be injury prone and us being stuck with him until 2028. That would be a disaster! Thank f**k there's no PO.

 

[the phantom menace]

You just admitted a contract without a PO costs more than one with it.

No, I quoted your argument that it does... but you now conveniently leave out mention of the supposed additional security for the player.

With a laughing gif indicating my belief that players of stature (like Moses, Brown) would ever be convinced by a PO to shave some $$$ off their contract expectations.

 

[the phantom menace]

Oh right, and now there's no risk of him turning out to be injury prone and us being stuck with him until 2028. That would be a disaster! Thank f**k there's no PO.

Exactly my point about the futility of POs... we'd be stuck paying a badly injured player anyway - on a normal contract, or "cheapened" (lol) with POs. See Hodgson for case in point about what badly injured players do a club bottom line - with PO or not.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No, I quoted your argument that it does... but you now conveniently leave out mention of the supposed additional security for the player.

With a laughing gif indicating my belief that players of stature (like Moses, Brown) would ever be convinced by a PO to shave some $$$ off their contract expectations.

Why would a club give away a PO for free? Without the PO all they could offer was more cash.

 

[the phantom menace]

Why would a club give away a PO for free? Without the PO all they could offer was more cash.

Why would the club (now, post BA) emphatically rule out future POs as bad business?

 

[King-Gutho94]

They went better without Cleary in 2023!

Must be a shit player based on those stats alone, hey...

If you look deeper into it.

It shows what a masterful job that one of the modern day coaching greats in Ivan Cleary has done there at Penrith and the systems he has in place they are able to cover Nathan being out and still win enough games in those periods to keep themselves at the top of the ladder.

Getting 9 wins during last year without there Halfback and best player was more wins then what 4 sides managed all up last year including us who just managed 7 wins across 24 games.

Yes there win% drops without Nathan in the side but any team missing there best player 14 games would more then likely maybe manage to get 5 wins at most.

Andrew Johns at Newcastle during his peak is a prime example.

I think it shows if Ryles gets a system in place that the next man up can cover those crucial positions for periods of time we are on the right track.

At the end of the day you can't win the comp in September unless your fit anyway but you have to get there first.

 

[hineyrulz]

Who else has starred in NSW Cup that you consider a backup?? Anyone we might know??

Whoever they are they sound like the perfect back up.