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International eligibility

roughyedspud

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right lets get this cleared up once and for all cos im sick to f**kin death of clubs,players,journos and national bodies f**kING IT UP..

http://www.rlif.com/about-rlif/laws_regulations

3. Eligibility for International Rugby League
3.1 A player is eligible to play an International Match for:-
(a) the country in which he was born;
(b) the country in which either of his parents or any of his grandparents was born;
(c) the country which has been his principal place of residence for a period of three years up to the date of his selection;
(d) the country that he has represented pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (irrespective of whether that country continues to be his principal place of residence) provided that he has not subsequently represented any other country pursuant to Rule 3.3 below.

3.2 A player shall not be treated as having his principal residence in a country for the purpose of Rule 3.1(c) if he has not been present in that country for nine months in any period of twelve months during the three years up to the date of his selection.

3.3 A player who is eligible to play for more than one country shall be entitled to elect for which country he wishes to play. When a player plays a Senior International Match for a country, he is deemed to have elected to play for that country. Subject to Rule 3.5, once an election is made the player may not play Senior representative rugby league for any other country until the end of the next World Cup tournament, or the expiry of two years, whichever is earlier (“Election Period”).

3.4 After the expiry of an Election Period, the player may elect to play for another country if he is eligible, but once he so elects (or is deemed to elect by playing in a Senior International Match) he may not play for another country until the expiry of another Election Period.

3.5 During an Election Period, a player may change from one country to another for which he is eligible pursuant to Rule 3.1, with the approval of the Federation (but he may only change once in each Election Period).

3.6 A player may not change their National Team during any Federation sanctioned International Tournament (including any qualification matches played as part of that International Tournament) in which that player is participating.

3.7 The burden of proof in establishing eligibility is on the player and the National Team that they wish to represent. If a player plays an International Match for a National Team which he is not eligible to represent, both the player and the National Team which selected him shall be guilty of misconduct.

3.8 Where a player considers that he is eligible to join a National Team squad on the basis of Rule 3.1 above, before he first joins that squad, he shall provide proof of his eligibility to the National Team wishing to select him. In the case of eligibility under Rule 3.1(a) and (b), the player shall provide the National Team with a copy of the relevant birth certificate and/or passport stating place of birth.

3.9 Where a player is not able to provide a copy of the relevant birth certificate and/or passport, the matter shall be referred to the Rules of the Game Committee and the player shall only be entitled to represent the National Team if they can provide satisfactory evidence to the Rules of the Game Committee that the player is eligible to do so. Save in extreme circumstances affidavits by a player will not be considered as satisfactory evidence.

3.10 National Teams shall, promptly upon request, provide the Federation with a copy of any evidence they have relied on pursuant to Rule 3.1 to 3.2. Where a National Team fails to do so, or the Federation do not consider the evidence satisfactory, the relevant player shall not be entitled to represent the National Team.

3.11 In the circumstances set out in Rule 3.10 above or in the event of the eligibility of a player to play for a National Team being uncertain or in dispute, upon the written request of any Member, Affiliate or Associate Member to the Chairman it shall be referred to the Rules of the Game Committee for determination.

3.12 The National Team which wished to select the player in question may appeal the decision of the Rules of the Game Committee to the RLIF Board. The decision of the RLIF Board shall be final and binding and not subject to appeal.

Everyone take a look at rule 3.3

3.3 A player who is eligible to play for more than one country shall be entitled to elect for which country he wishes to play. When a player plays a Senior International Match for a country, he is deemed to have elected to play for that country. Subject to Rule 3.5, once an election is made the player may not play Senior representative rugby league for any other country until the end of the next World Cup tournament, or the expiry of two years, whichever is earlier...

ONLY WHEN A PLAYER HAS PLAYED FOR HIS ELECTED SIDE IS HE DEEMED TO HAVE ELECTED TO PLAY FOR THAT COUNTRY!!

none of this bullshit made up by the aussie press,QLD/NSW or the ARLC...about players writting letters of intent or them electing to switch and it being binding without actually playing a test..

ANTHONY MILFORD IS STILL TECHNICALLY SAMOAN TEST PLAYER buy virtue of the fact that he's played his last international test for samoa...yes he elected to switch to australia but because he hasn't played for australia he's absolutely free,under RLIF LAW, to switch back to samoa..

danny brough did exactly that..played for scotland,elected to switch for england,never played a test for england..so swapped back to scotland..

JAMES TRESDESCO...still a italian test international in the eyes of the RLIF...

SEMI & JOSH MAGUIRE...the second they step on the field next week for australia..THATS WHEN THE LAW KICKS IN...

FELETI METEO missed out on the last world cup because the NSWRL & ARLC told the TONGAN RL that feleti could'nt play for tonga because he's "ELECTED" to switch...its was a f**king lie! ONLY PLAYING FOR AUSTRALIA WOULD HAVE RULED HIM OUT!


the laws are very clear,written in black and white...the aussie press,players,clubs,states and national team will do well to read them
 
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RedVee

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right lets get this cleared up once and for all cos im sick to f**kin death of clubs,players,journos and national bodies f**kING IT UP..

http://www.rlif.com/about-rlif/laws_regulations



Everyone take a look at rule 3.3

3.3 A player who is eligible to play for more than one country shall be entitled to elect for which country he wishes to play. When a player plays a Senior International Match for a country, he is deemed to have elected to play for that country. Subject to Rule 3.5, once an election is made the player may not play Senior representative rugby league for any other country until the end of the next World Cup tournament, or the expiry of two years, whichever is earlier...

ONLY WHEN A PLAYER HAS PLAYED FOR HIS ELECTED SIDE IS HE DEEMED TO HAVE ELECTED TO PLAY FOR THAT COUNTRY!!

none of this bullshit made up by the aussie press,QLD/NSW or the ARLC...about players writting letters of intent or them electing to switch and it being binding without actually playing a test..

ANTHONY MILFORD IS STILL TECHNICALLY SAMOAN TEST PLAYER buy virtue of the fact that he's played his last international test for samoa...yes he elected to switch to australia but because he hasn't played for australia he's absolutely free,under RLIF LAW, to switch back to samoa..

danny brough did exactly that..played for scotland,elected to switch for england,never played a test for england..so swapped back to scotland..

JAMES TRESDESCO...still a italian test international in the eyes of the RLIF...

SEMI & JOSH MAGUIRE...the second they step on the field next week for australia..THATS WHEN THE LAW KICKS IN...

FELETI METEO missed out on the last world cup because the NSWRL & ARLC told the TONGAN RL that feleti could'nt play for tonga because he's "ELECTED" to switch...its was a f**king lie! ONLY PLAYING FOR AUSTRALIA WOULD HAVE RULED HIM OUT!


the laws are very clear,written in black and white...the aussie press,players,clubs,states and national team will do well to read them

Actually, I disagree. It says election and gives playing a Senior International match as an example of an election, or a default election. It does not say that is the only form of election that counts. Which seems to be your premise.

The addition of one word fixes that. "only When a player plays a Senior International Match for a country, he is deemed to have elected to play for that country. "

Now it is written to match your reading of the rule.
 
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hutch

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Semi played for Fiji in 2014 which is your 3.3, he became aligned to Fiji by playing for them. However, Mascord explained that once you write to change your eligibility, ie. Play for a second country within the World Cup period then that is counted as your swap.

So Milford hasn't played for anybody this World Cup period so can play for Samoa next week and elect to switch to Australia next year.

Semi had played for Fiji already, so applied to switch to Australia which ruled him out of getting selected for Fiji even if he didn't make Australia.

All of this is ridiculous, we've literally learnt nothing since the 2000 rlwc.
 
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Semi played for Fiji in 2014 which is your 3.3, he became aligned to Fiji by playing for them. However, Mascord explained that once you write to change your eligibility, ie. Play for a second country within the World Cup period then that is counted as your swap.

So Milford hasn't played for anybody this World Cup period so can play for Samoa next week and elect to switch to Australia next year.

Semi had played for Fiji already, so applied to switch to Australia which ruled him out of getting selected for Fiji even if he didn't make Australia.

All of this is ridiculous, we've literally learnt nothing since the 2000 rlwc.
Correct.
Lets hope that Semi at a later date date doesn't come out and say he's a pround Fijian, which will make him a bigger laughing stock than he is now.
 

Last Week

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Have the clubs, players, journos and national bodies listened to you spud? Is it clear to them now?
 

RedVee

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^ agree with the the comment on ridiculous.

Semi: Fiji 2014... Now its 2016... But I bet it isn't the 2 years that the rules author envisioned ie a full two years.

Seriously, the rules need to be rewritten in order to be crystal clear and to have the wording of the rules match the intent of the rules.
 

roughyedspud

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Wft are you missing??

A players election to play for a country only becomes complete when he actually plays for the country he selected..

Its really not difficult to grasp
 

roughyedspud

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Semi played for Fiji in 2014 which is your 3.3, he became aligned to Fiji by playing for them. However, Mascord explained that once you write to change your eligibility, ie. Play for a second country within the World Cup period then that is counted as your swap.

So Milford hasn't played for anybody this World Cup period so can play for Samoa next week and elect to switch to Australia next year.

Semi had played for Fiji already, so applied to switch to Australia which ruled him out of getting selected for Fiji even if he didn't make Australia.

All of this is ridiculous, we've literally learnt nothing since the 2000 rlwc.

Hutch...applying to switch means nothing till you actually play for the nation youve elected..

Mascord is commander of the miss information squad...
 
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roughyedspud

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Rule 3.3 is crystal clear...the fact most of you are trying twist it or re-word it to figure out ways round it is really worrying
 

RedVee

First Grade
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Wft are you missing??

A players election to play for a country only becomes complete when he actually plays for the country he selected..

Its really not difficult to grasp

That would be good and all. Except that the rules you posted do not actually say that.
And it seems that half the nations involved agree that the rules don't say that.
 

hutch

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Hutch...applying to switch means nothing till you actually play for the nation youve elected..

Mascord is commander of the miss information squad...

Not true, he cleared it with the rlif. Your first nomination only counts when you actually play.

Your application to switch during the world cup is all it takes to change countries. Radradra would not be eligible for Fiji even if he didn't make the Aussie team.
 

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