Is Stering Right???

[Freak2]

Is our game becoming or has become BORING???

In a time when we must increase revenue we surely cannot afford to be offering a product that is not attractive to the viewer and more importantly sponsors.

Is Sterlo right??? and if so what 1 change would you introduce to improve the offered product???

For me it would be the Video referee. I only want to see it once or twice a game on absolutely top shelf game changing decisions and I would be happy to experiment with Captains call.

 

[Ram Man]

Is our game becoming or has become BORING???

In a time when we must increase revenue we surely cannot afford to be offering a product that is not attractive to the viewer and more importantly sponsors.

Is Sterlo right??? and if so what 1 change would you introduce to improve the offered product???

For me it would be the Video referee. I only want to see it once or twice a game on absolutely top shelf game changing decisions and I would be happy to experiment with Captains call.

11 Players on the field would promote more ball movement IMO

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Sterling is a bore.

The game will go through the changes it needs, it always has in the past and it will in the future.

It's evolving, the problem is they won't do it mid-season and without experimentation.

 

[ucantseeme]

Peter Sterling is not right. NRL is not boring. How any one person perceives the comp is dependent on who they support.

If you are a Storm fan who would be dancing in the street. If you were an Eels fan (like Sterlo) you'd be a sourpuss.

 

[bartman]

Sterlo has never been more right in his life.

I've noticed the change in styles over the past four or so years. League is generally broing now, full of garbage with wrestling the tackled player (slowing the game down), video refs over almost every dropped ball (slowing the game down) and stupid video decisions on tries where someone's pinkie finger might have touched the ball for a nonsecond (slowing the game down, and not as exciting as the powers that be probably think those decisions are).

They're the big three rul changes needed to make our "produc) (sigh) more wacthable again, to the casual fan and those that still patronise the game but would like to be more entertained for their bucks. Flowing football people - if the coaches aren't coahing the game as it was intended, why change the rules (dominant tackle, submission etc) to suit a more boring style of play?

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Even when I think it's going through a period where it may be a bit static, I think of the alternatives.

One game involves whacking the ball into touch if you get it in your 20, fat guys trying to stomp each other on the ground, the same fat guys trying to fist the tall guys when the ball goes into touch, penalty goals aplenty and the other game looks like seagulls fighting over a chip whilst trying to imitate ballerianas....

 

[Freak2]

I agree Bartman!! - Believe it or not!!

Unfortunately I believe we are going down the same path as Yawnion.

They had to have a boreathon World Cup before giving their game a much needed face lift to improve their product. I think we are heading in the same direction!!

In a time when Revenue is KING and club membership bases need to have substantial growth the only possible way I see for this to take place is to greatly improve our product.

 

[The Colonel]

Sterling is a bore.

The game will go through the changes it needs, it always has in the past and it will in the future.

It's evolving, the problem is they won't do it mid-season and without experimentation.

Even when I think it's going through a period where it may be a bit static, I think of the alternatives.

One game involves whacking the ball into touch if you get it in your 20, fat guys trying to stomp each other on the ground, the same fat guys trying to fist the tall guys when the ball goes into touch, penalty goals aplenty and the other game looks like seagulls fighting over a chip whilst trying to imitate ballerianas....

So you are happy to watch games that involve both teams usually playing one out stuff, getting to the kick and hoping for either;

a) A penalty against the defending side to get them inside the 20 metre zone.
b) An early mistake off a kick or from the attacking team coming out of their own end.

The other alternatives may not necessarily be pretty but some of the league being played by teams outside of a few - Canberra being most prominent - revolves around dominating possession and hoping for someone else to make the error.

 

[Snoz]

Peter Sterling is not right. NRL is not boring. How any one person perceives the comp is dependent on who they support.

If you are a Storm fan who would be dancing in the street. If you were an Eels fan (like Sterlo) you'd be a sourpuss.

I am a manly supporter and love the position we are in however i find the game boring. I get excited watching manly because i love them but i can't stand teams relying on the kick to score tries. the game is about passing the the hands not kicking - that is for soccer and afl.

can't blame the teams for doing as the defence is so hard to crack it is often the only way.

i would like to see:

1. less interchanges

2. less stopages

3. more reward for kick diffusion by defending side - i.e. 40 m tap - 20 m line drop out and chance to be rewarded for kick taken on the full up to 10m out from the tryline (maybe a free kick for touch)

4. less video ref (let the man in the middle make the decisions)

5. competition points to be a reward of wins as well as margin between the teams i.e. bonus points for winning and losing side depending on scoreline. i.e. 40-nil flogging means 3 pts for winners and 0 for loser but 13-12 scoreline means 2 pts winner 1 pt loser.

6. less penalties for around the ruck - let common sense prevail rather than being so strict in the area.

7. don't repack a scrum more than twice

8. when timeout called for players packing a scrum quickly the same players must be in the scrum when time resumes.

 

[Russell Crowe's Band]

yes.

as a sharks fan. my team is painful to watch.

but i watch all the same because its in me to do so.

they took 2 interchanges away. but now the players stand about in scrums for 5 minutes.

i say change the 10 meter rule, 6 interchanges and time penalties for lazyness.

also. passing the ball wouldnt go a stray. at the moment its just one out, one out, nod inside to douglas, seymour to gallen....kick!

 

[Eels Dude]

I think Sterlo is right, and I think he had a lot of guts to come out and say what he said about Melbourne given his role as a televsion commentator.

 

[perverse]

3. more reward for kick diffusion by defending side - i.e. 40 m tap - 20 m line drop out and chance to be rewarded for kick taken on the full up to 10m out from the tryline (maybe a free kick for touch)

your whole post was great mate, but this rule change is the best i've seen to discourage the kick-a-thon. i've been a staunch supporter of the kick around here, and still maintain that there is nothing wrong with it in todays game (wrestling is a far bigger problem)... however if rule changes were to be implemented to combat kick tries... then it would have to be something along these lines. it would need tuning, but rewarding kick diffusals more is a far better solution than rewarding the try from the kick less (i.e 3 point tries for kicks.. etc etc).

well done.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

So you are happy to watch games that involve both teams usually playing one out stuff, getting to the kick and hoping for either;

a) A penalty against the defending side to get them inside the 20 metre zone.
b) An early mistake off a kick or from the attacking team coming out of their own end.

The other alternatives may not necessarily be pretty but some of the league being played by teams outside of a few - Canberra being most prominent - revolves around dominating possession and hoping for someone else to make the error.

Yeah, I'm happy.

I'm happy that we'll evolve as we always do and I'm happy that the game itself is still heading in the right direction.

Anyone that expects the game to be perfect all the time or expects the game to go through major changes mid-season is a f**king genius.

i.e. Sterlo.

 

[Peppers]

your whole post was great mate, but this rule change is the best i've seen to discourage the kick-a-thon. i've been a staunch supporter of the kick around here, and still maintain that there is nothing wrong with it in todays game (wrestling is a far bigger problem)... however if rule changes were to be implemented to combat kick tries... then it would have to be something along these lines. it would need tuning, but rewarding kick diffusals more is a far better solution than rewarding the try from the kick less (i.e 3 point tries for kicks.. etc etc).

well done.

This is spot on. I would say any kick fielded on the full in the 20 gets a twenty restart. Teams can still try for a kick but a defusal is where the reward is.

One out of left field - would it work if defending teams knocking the ball over the dead from aan attacking got a restart from the tryline?

 

[super_coach]

Sterlo is on the money, the games become predictable and boring. Its like going to the v8's in seeing 16 fords and no holdens. All the teams play the same game plan, its just some are better at.

Like most I like a got old fashion forward battle, but also like creative ball plays. Where are the ball players?? how often do you see the kick chase bar in a catch up situation

They have to look at the cross field bomb, the constant dummy half running,the slowing of the play the balls, fifth tackle kicks in general, the video ref. We don't want a hybrid game of touch, but we want to get a game that offers a little more excitment.

The skill players need to be able to express their talent,rather than be 80minute targets for the opposition's attack. Get people like Wok Ryan, Angry Smith Tim Sheens and Happy Wayne in a think tank and see what happens

 

[The Colonel]

Yeah, I'm happy.

I'm happy that we'll evolve as we always do and I'm happy that the game itself is still heading in the right direction.

Happy for it to evolve into early 90's rugby? Yep.... I'm sure you'd love it.

Anyone that expects the game to be perfect all the time or expects the game to go through major changes mid-season is a f**king genius.

i.e. Sterlo.

Wow, didn't take long for someone to be labelled a genius. What next, Sterlo is gay perhaps?

:roll:

Rugby league at the moment is f**king boring...... brought about through evolution from Melbourne, in reaction to the free flowing style that won the Tigers the title in 2005.

The Tigers style in 2005 was bordering on touch football but it is a much better style than the World Championship Wresting we are subjected to now.

It may have evolved, but not for the better. And rule changes at the start of the past two seasons haven't helped it because they aren't being enforced anyway or they are standing at scrums being told to repack or for a check of the video ref and can gain a rest break that the reuction of interchanges was supposed to stop.

 

[Everlovin' Antichrist]

Happy for it to evolve into early 90's rugby? Yep.... I'm sure you'd love it.

WTF are you on about?

We are Rugby.

If you mean Union, say Union.

Wow, didn't take long for someone to be labelled a genius. What next, Sterlo is gay perhaps?

:roll:

We need strong people talking about our game and Sterling is a f**king wimp.

He should shut up, seriously.

Rugby league at the moment is f**king boring...... brought about through evolution from Melbourne, in reaction to the free flowing style that won the Tigers the title in 2005.

bullsh*t.

It's boring to you because your team is sh*t.

I love watching Rugby League now, still, always.

The Tigers style in 2005 was bordering on touch football but it is a much better style than the World Championship Wresting we are subjected to now.

Canberra now are much the same as the Tigers of 2005, to me anyway. Great to watch, young blokes just going for it.

It may have evolved, but not for the better. And rule changes at the start of the past two seasons haven't helped it because they aren't being enforced anyway.

It's part of the evolution of the game.

FFS, I've been following it for 40 odd years and in that time almost every 3 or 4 years the game has to change direction slightly because the coaches come up with ways to win games that generally don't involve throwing the ball around.

Remember the game nearly dying in the mid-1980's because we'd been bogged down with bloody scrum penalties? Your team won a GF without scoring a try didn't they?

It'll change, they'll make some adjustments and the game will move on.

But they won't change them right this minute.

That seems to be the problem.

 

[Mr Saab]

I bet sterlo didnt want to change the 10m rule in the 90s (93 onwards) when the Raiders/Broncos and eagles were playing great footabll..
Or in 2005 when the Tigers were killing it.
The game is fine....too many people want to play around with stupid rules...like 3 point tries off kicks...or 100 min games (WTF is that all about)
It willl work itself out.
Keep stuffing it around and then it wont be league anymore.

 

[Pierced Soul]

sterlo is correct. if you looked at just ONE chnage it would involve changing the ruck to get rid of wrestling

however i think sevral other aspects need to be looked at such as bringing abck the 5m rule, allowing stripping in the tackle (lets make it a contest for the ball and bring some unpredictablity back), as well as the issue with teams kicking for all their tries.

beautifully placed kicks can result in great tries such as the folau one in origin, and then you go back a few decades and the stuff alfie langer and phil blake was awesome to watch.

I believe though the reason has gotten to this stage is the coaches. they dont seem to encourage or allow players to have a go. it seems everything is regimented and you have to stick to the 'gameplan' at all costs.

i cant imagine players grubbering for themselves 20m out like alf used to do, i cant imagine players putting in chips like cliffy lyon or phil blake from 40m out, and gone are the days of players making breaks and then putting kicks ahead to chase (i.e. think of nathan blacklock against the tigers(?), or that try in one of the parra/dogs gf in the 80s (whichh was a bomb). if a player did these things and didnt score they'd be hauled off, so they play the high percentage hitup.

I'm not a roosters fan and i realsie that they've scored a lot of tries from kicks, but fittler is actually making footballers of his players instead of athletes. pearce and anasta are playing whats in front of them and the roosters have come up with some great set plays which havent involved purely kicking to the wing. if coaches place more of an emphasis on attack then defence then we'll see a better product, but right now coaches like stuart are more interested in boring other teams to death and slowing the game down as much as possible. the sharks have the talent to score points but they are the most negative team in attack i've seen in a long time, and yes it has worked for them but it's damn ugly to watch

 

[Coaster]

Im not sure who said this in another thread, but the only change we should make is the Referee should police the ruck like this.

Tackle in effect - Refferee yells Held
if after 3 seconds the player has not played the ball, - Penalty

No more dominate, or submitted or lifting the foot, or working him on the ground.

If he hasnt played the ball by the time the ref counts out to 3 secs, blow the penalty and lets move on.