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Ivan Henjak and the players..

renouf

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Need to wake up to themselves. I'm sick of hearing the same bullsh*t lines from Henjak.

Speak the truth for once you dipsh*ts, we are pretty much useless without Lockyer and the sooner they realise this the better. Or maybe they already know it and just don't want to say it..
 

bronco_buddy

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Ditto.
Norman's f**king hopeless, Wallace looks lost & Parkers no leader,
& Israel's already clocked off
Raiders are gunna belt them next week
18 years straight was a good run, hopefully this will wake these youngsters up to the reality of the NRL
 

Snappy

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What exactly do you want Henjak to do ? He can only work with the players he has, which is the youngest team in the NRL. Did you really expect us to go deep into the finals this year. We are in a rebuilding process, and the spoils will come in the next few years.
 

Broncos fan!

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You know what I'm sick of. I'm sick of whinging fans who blame and put shit on our players week in week out.
 

GoTheBroncs

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You know what I'm sick of. I'm sick of whinging fans who blame and put shit on our players week in week out.

Dude I'm sick of you whinging about us whinging. It's a forum for a discussion and we are entitled to our own opinion. You can either choose to agree or disagree with the comments, dont complain about it.

Re: Bronco buddy: I disagree with most of your comments. Folau has basically been a one man team the last couple of weeks, creating something out of absolutely nothing on many occasions. I reckon Parker is a good leader, unfortunately when he is captain Lockyer must not be playing, plus some origin players sometimes. Norman just needs to get more involved. We saw what he is capable of in week 1.
 

renouf

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There are plenty of things Henjak is doing wrong IMO.

- Picking T'eo at frontrow for a second week, when clearly we had a specialist front rower (Kenny) in the squad. Sure enough we got belted in the forwards
- Continously picking young players like Dodds and McGuire when clearly they aren't up to first grade week in week out. A player like Sims or Setu (before his injury) should have been given another go
- Telling us fans the truth and not feeding us the usual line "The boys just didn't turn up tonight". I'd rather hear, "Unfortunately we have a young team and Locky is missing and that's hurting us dearly"
- Screwing around with selections like playing Gillett at 5/8, not playing Hunt in the halves more and using Corey Norman instead
- Basing our entire game around Lockyer, when a player like him is missing things shouldn't go to absolute sh*t like they have, ie Wallace should have been dropped a long time ago, although we don't have any other options I'd like to see Hunt developed, I don't think Wallace is ever going to get any better
 
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Dazraider

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Broncos are definatley not out of it as a raiders supporter im not confident about tonights game and next week when we take on you guys as we dont win this many in a row too often and afraid it may be the week we clock off and you guys clock back on.
but the dragons may want to play souths in the first week anyway and if Broncos win may throw the game against the bunnys to kick you guys out which is a possibility
 

Big Pete

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Speak the truth for once you dipsh*ts, we are pretty much useless without Lockyer and the sooner they realise this the better. Or maybe they already know it and just don't want to say it..

Because that's what we need, to feed the media with more headline grabbing quotes to put our coach offside with just about everyone at the club.
There are plenty of things Henjak is doing wrong IMO.

Yes but there's also plenty he's done right too this season.

- Continously picking young players like Dodds and McGuire when clearly they aren't up to first grade week in week out. A player like Sims or Setu (before his injury) should have been given another go

That's funny because I remember Setu being an absolute liability in defence when he was playing with us while Sims rarely applied himself. Can hardly fault Henjak there.

- Telling us fans the truth and not feeding us the usual line "The boys just didn't turn up tonight". I'd rather hear, "Unfortunately we have a young team and Locky is missing and that's hurting us dearly"

He's basically been saying that.

- Screwing around with selections like playing Gillett at 5/8, not playing Hunt in the halves more and using Corey Norman instead

His selection of Gillett at F/E was completely rational, it was just unfortunate we ended up with so much ball. This sounds like a hindsight thing...2/3 games Norman played in the halves he looked absolutely awesome.

- Basing our entire game around Lockyer, when a player like him is missing things shouldn't go to absolute sh*t like they have,

I disagree there. The game plan was never solely built around Lockyer. He was just a key component and without him we're struggling to compete against a swarm of desperate sides.

The biggest difference is in the forwards.

e Wallace should have been dropped a long time ago,

For who?

although we don't have any other options I'd like to see Hunt developed,

Dude isn't up to it yet as a halfback. He has improved over the course of the season though and maybe ready to challenge Wallace next year if Penrith Pete puts in another mediocre season.
 

renouf

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That's funny because I remember Setu being an absolute liability in defence when he was playing with us while Sims rarely applied himself. Can hardly fault Henjak there.

Perhaps, but even Sims at 50% is more effective then McGuire and Dodds, and I still believe if Sims was given a regular go on the bench he would have applied himself. Henjak has given everyone else a regular go on the bench except him.

He's basically been saying that.

Henjak has said that we've got a young side and Lockyer missing isn't helping, but its blatantly obvious that we are completely useless when hes not in the side. I'm not expecting Henjak to say that, but I'd like to hear something other then the usual BS, which is "having Locky here wouldn't have made a difference".

His selection of Gillett at F/E was completely rational, it was just unfortunate we ended up with so much ball. This sounds like a hindsight thing...2/3 games Norman played in the halves he looked absolutely awesome.

Well, I said when Lockyer got injured Hunt should be given a go in the halves, not Norman. Hunt has been in the first grade side for a while now, he knows whats required, he knows the speed of the game, he knows how to defend, sure hes been playing at hooker, but he would have been a better option than Norman, who hasn't been playing regular first grade footy.

I disagree there. The game plan was never solely built around Lockyer. He was just a key component and without him we're struggling to compete against a swarm of desperate sides.

The biggest difference is in the forwards.

How does a side go from beating potential premiership favourites (Titans and St.George for starters) to getting flogged 2 weeks in a row? We're not just losing matches, we're getting hammered. Something is not right there.
 

some11

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How does a side go from beating potential premiership favourites (Titans and St.George for starters) to getting flogged 2 weeks in a row? We're not just losing matches, we're getting hammered. Something is not right there.

Its called being mentally soft when things aren't going their way and no leader to inspire them.

Time for the boys to do another pre-season boot camp.
 

applesauce

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Broncos are definatley not out of it as a raiders supporter im not confident about tonights game and next week when we take on you guys as we dont win this many in a row too often and afraid it may be the week we clock off and you guys clock back on.
but the dragons may want to play souths in the first week anyway and if Broncos win may throw the game against the bunnys to kick you guys out which is a possibility

I think this is a real possibility unfortunately :x
 

Steve_oneskie

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Perhaps, but even Sims at 50% is more effective then McGuire and Dodds, and I still believe if Sims was given a regular go on the bench he would have applied himself. Henjak has given everyone else a regular go on the bench except him.

No i'd rather have two young guys on the bench one of which is probably one of the best defenders at the club, the other probably one of the most aggressive at the club both of whom have bright futures. Like someone else said it is a rebuilding year.

Unfortunately some fans because of the success of the Broncos over the last 18 years have raised their expectations so high and when something doesn't go our way the fans are calling for radical changes.

Norman was picked because he was a specialist 5/8 who has already showed more playing the halves than hunt has shown over the last two seasons.
 

bfoord

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Henjak has said that we've got a young side and Lockyer missing isn't helping, but its blatantly obvious that we are completely useless when hes not in the side. I'm not expecting Henjak to say that, but I'd like to hear something other then the usual BS, which is "having Locky here wouldn't have made a difference".

Telling these young guys they can't win without Lockyer is the worst thing Henjak could do. they need to believe they can win without Lockyer.
 

ponies 4ever

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Henjak is NOT the problem here, the players' looked largely disinterested from word go. Simply unacceptable from PAID PROFESSIONALS ! The only highlight of us missing the finals is "THAT LAZY CODE HOPPER" goes out the way he deserves.
Our forwards were absolutely disgraceful, FULLSTOP !
 

Seagullsrock

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There are plenty of things Henjak is doing wrong IMO.

- Picking T'eo at frontrow for a second week, when clearly we had a specialist front rower (Kenny) in the squad. Sure enough we got belted in the forwards
- Continously picking young players like Dodds and McGuire when clearly they aren't up to first grade week in week out. A player like Sims or Setu (before his injury) should have been given another go
- Telling us fans the truth and not feeding us the usual line "The boys just didn't turn up tonight". I'd rather hear, "Unfortunately we have a young team and Locky is missing and that's hurting us dearly"
- Screwing around with selections like playing Gillett at 5/8, not playing Hunt in the halves more and using Corey Norman instead
- Basing our entire game around Lockyer, when a player like him is missing things shouldn't go to absolute sh*t like they have, ie Wallace should have been dropped a long time ago, although we don't have any other options I'd like to see Hunt developed, I don't think Wallace is ever going to get any better

LOL Dodds smashes them in defence every week. Better than Anderson who drops the ball just at the sight of the defence coming toward him. He and Sims are certainly the most useless forward buys of the last few years.

Typical Bronco fans once again. Lose and the sky's falling in and win and suddenly everyone's a champion. You've won 6 premierships over the last 20 years FFS. Get the f**k over it. You can't win one every year. Wynnum haven't won one since 1995 and Cronulla have never won one. Stop the f**king bitching about the youngsters and perhaps support them when they're losing. Tough I know.

Nuff said.
 

Big Pete

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Perhaps, but even Sims at 50% is more effective then McGuire and Dodds

I disagree and even then imagine what that says to the other players.

"Well Sims is only playing at 50% to make the side, guess I can have a bludge".

Look, I've always had more time for Sims than most but I don't see it as some grave mistake.

Henjak has given everyone else a regular go on the bench except him.

Sims got a fair-go in the middle part of the season and wasn't inspiring anybody.

As for Henjak and Lockyer...dude it's not his fault you can't read in-between the lines. He's just doing his bit to nip the media frenzy.

Hunt thing fair enough. Although really, that isn't a cross against Henjak given Hunt has yet to prove you right.

to getting flogged 2 weeks in a row? We're not just losing matches, we're getting hammered. Something is not right there.

Forward pack is lacking energy and inspiration and as a resulted they're no where near as motivated as the other teams are. Lockyer would certainly make a huge difference and would get everybody's head on the job (also he wouldn't let us down in d like Norman does) BUT really the major difference has been the decline of Thaiday and Gillett. Te'o has also been wasted at front row.

Typical Bronco fans once again.

No typical sports fan really.

I mean, you've never ever bad mouthed a player or coach right?
 

GoTheBroncs

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Don't think anyone can blame Henjak for last night. The players didn't stand up for mine. Folau was dangerous.
 

Broncs4ever

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A complete lack of motivation at the moment for some reason - anyone got any ideas on that - we did not even run out onto the field last night, we walked, don't think I have ever seen that before!

Boy you are a hard task master Ponies4ever - That lazy code hopper as you called him has 8 tests, 5 origins and has averaged one try a game this year for us.
 

Seagullsrock

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I disagree and even then imagine what that says to the other players.

"Well Sims is only playing at 50% to make the side, guess I can have a bludge".

Look, I've always had more time for Sims than most but I don't see it as some grave mistake.



Sims got a fair-go in the middle part of the season and wasn't inspiring anybody.

As for Henjak and Lockyer...dude it's not his fault you can't read in-between the lines. He's just doing his bit to nip the media frenzy.

Hunt thing fair enough. Although really, that isn't a cross against Henjak given Hunt has yet to prove you right.



Forward pack is lacking energy and inspiration and as a resulted they're no where near as motivated as the other teams are. Lockyer would certainly make a huge difference and would get everybody's head on the job (also he wouldn't let us down in d like Norman does) BUT really the major difference has been the decline of Thaiday and Gillett. Te'o has also been wasted at front row.



No typical sports fan really.

I mean, you've never ever bad mouthed a player or coach right?

Try not to with my own team.
 
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