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Jack De Belin charged with aggravated sexual assault in company

Discussion in 'NRL' started by I Bleed Maroon, Dec 13, 2018.

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Should de Belin be stood down from the NRL 2019 season until his matter is completed?

  1. Yes, he is accused of a crime against a woman and should be banned for life

    3.1%
  2. Yes, I understand his presumption of innocence but he should still be stood down

    44.6%
  3. No, I know he has a presumption of innocence, but it still looks bad, him playing

    7.6%
  4. No, He has a presumption of innocence and he deserves his day in court like everyone else

    42.4%
  5. Yes, I hate him, the dragons or NSW

    1.8%
  6. No, I love him, the dragons or NSW

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  1. myrrh ken

    myrrh ken First Grade

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    What lost money?

    Maybe they could seek get cap dispensation but I doubt it.
     
  2. Captain Apollo

    Captain Apollo First Grade

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  3. myrrh ken

    myrrh ken First Grade

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    It would come down to whether implementing the NFSD policy was reasonable or not. Pretty difficult in my mind.
     
  4. Timmah

    Timmah LeagueUnlimited News Editor Staff Member

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    Can JDB's lawyers even go there again? Already challenged NFSD in court didn't they?
     
  5. myrrh ken

    myrrh ken First Grade

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    Yeah you're right - I'm not up to speed. Didn't realise they already examined JDB's circumstances. No chance

    Perry J was also of the view that de Belin had not proved, on the balance of probabilities, that the value of any further playing contract entered by de Belin would be significantly impacted by reason of his being stood down.


    https://www.hopgoodganim.com.au/pag...‘reasonably-necessary’-says-the-federal-court

    He must be burning his pockets ol JDB - hopefully this gets resolved quickly.
     
  6. Timmay

    Timmay Juniors

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    Probably not. The time period to file a notice of intention ('NIA') to appeal to the Full Court of the Federal Court of Australia ('FCFCA') has expired. Cross-eyed Jack may be able to seek leave from the FCFCA to file an NIA but it'll cost him around $100,000 per day in professional legal fees.
     
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  7. blue bags

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    remember the BULLDOGS coffs harbour incident, the SHARKS NZ incident, a team could lose many many players, could be stood down , a team could lose half there team if shit hits the fan
     
  8. Vee

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    Puts the onus on #partnersinthegame to not put themselves in bad positions.
     
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  9. blue bags

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    thats 100% right, everyone involved in the game. are PARTNERSINTHEGAME , but incicents are still happening, smart day to day decisions are the best for everyone
     
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  10. TheFrog

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    Innocent is not one of the options. There's guilty or not guilty.
     
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  12. Twizzle

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    ^^^

    The coronavirus pandemic could further push back NRL star Jack de Belin's rape trial with his scheduled court appearance this week adjourned for more than two months.

    The St George Illawarra and NSW back-rower was set to appear at Wollongong District Court on Wednesday for pre-trial arguments.


    De Belin and co-accused Callan Sinclair have pleaded not guilty to raping a 19-year-old woman inside a Wollongong apartment in December 2018.

    De Belin's trial was scheduled to begin on February 3, but was initially delayed by legal argument.


    Those legal arguments were adjourned when a critical witness fell ill and were set down for this week.

    However, both his lawyers and the prosecution have agreed to adjourn the matter until June 22.

    The courts have been hampered by the coronavirus and it decreases the likelihood of his case going to trial this year.

    Both men have pleaded not guilty to five counts of aggravated sexual assault in company and are facing a trial which is expected to last two weeks.

    De Belin is in career limbo after being stood down by the NRL in February 2019 under its "no fault" stand down policy.

    He sat out all of 2019 but was hopeful of returning to the field this year, if acquitted by the courts.

    The NRL has suspended its competition due to the coronavirus and is targeting a June 1 resumption.

    De Belin is off-contract with the Dragons at the end of the 2020 season.

    Australian Associated Press
     
  13. Dufmack

    Dufmack Juniors

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    Today is the big day!
     
  14. Knight76

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    You would have to think the NRL would be watching this with baited breath. Hoping the charges are not thrown out and eventually he is found guilty so it vindicates their stance.

    They would never say that of course, but can you imagine the amount of pressure to ditch the no fault stand down that a not guilty verdict will bring.
     
  15. soc123_au

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    has he got his striped pyjamas yet?
     
  16. Perth Red

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    Likely to be a 2 week case according to reports. Hes been paid $900k to sit at home and I dont suppose Dragons can claim that back off him if he is found guilty. NRL stand down clause is right and proper in a case as serious as this. Better he be stood down and found not guilty than allowed to be a superstar and found guilty. The games image is tarnished enough as it is.
     
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    I don't understand that thinking. If he is not guilty and did not do the things he is accused of, then it's the alleged victim that has tarnished the games image, not the player.

    Just look at the Brett Stewart case as an example.
     
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  18. Vee

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    Is this the committal or the trial?
     
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    De Belin rape case to continue this week as NRL career hangs in balance
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    St. George Illawarra player Jack de Belin arrives at Wollongong District Court in Wollongong, Monday.Source: AAP
    St George Illawarra forward Jack de Belin is still days away from finding out his future as the judge in Monday’s hearing ruled he wanted the pre-trial arguments to continue for the rest of the week.

    De Belin fronted Wollongong Local Court in a bid to have his case thrown out.

    The 29-year-old was charged with raping a 19-year-old woman in a Wollongong apartment at the end of 2018.

    He pleaded not guilty to five counts of aggravated sexual assault.

    The Daily Telegraph reports Judge Andrew Haesler indicated he wanted the arguments to continue for the remainder of the week.

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    Jack de Belin arrives at Wollongong District Court in Wollongong, Monday.Source: AAP
    The Australian’s Brent Read confirmed to Fox League’s NRL Tonight that there was no outcome out of today and arguments will continue .

    “No outcome, they’re back in court tomorrow… more argument tomorrow,” he said.

    “Apparently media were allowed in the courtroom but you can’t report on what happened in there so unless you’re in there you won’t really know what went on.

    “But they’re back in court tomorrow and there’s talk they might go another day yet.

    “I think we’re close to some form of resolution but we’ll have to wait another day or two.

    “There were two schools of thought about this hearing. One would be potentially the charges would go away, the other was it would be adjourned to November.”

    If de Belin’s goes to trial it will likely be in November, meaning he will miss another NRL season.

    The NSW back-rower has been forced to watch from the NRL sidelines for the last 18 months after he was stood down under the NRL’s “no fault” rule.

    De Belin’s trial, which was expected to last two weeks, was originally scheduled to begin on February 3, but was hit by several delays.

    It was initially delayed by legal arguments.

    However those legal arguments were adjourned until April when a critical witness fell ill.

    Then both his lawyers and the prosecution agreed to adjourn the matter until this week because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    De Belin is on a $595,000-a-year contract at the Dragons but is off-contract at the end of the season.

    While the Dragons have won their last two matches - against Canterbury and the Warriors - coach Paul McGregor nonetheless remains under pressure to revive their fortunes.

    The club has announced that they are willing to grant veteran forward James Graham an immediate release so he can finish his career in his native England. It has been reported that the Warriors are preparing to offer de Belin a contract for next season should he be acquitted, while the Wests Tigers are also monitoring his situation.

    https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...d/news-story/dd4ca5177778dfa218b5524eca118880
     
  20. GreenMachine121

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    Doubt anything will be resolved this week unfortunately for Jdb , doesn’t look that easy
     
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