Johns as Messenger

[Big Bunny]

All I can say is, what a shock! People involved with the RLIF are coming up with some very interesting ideas and not letting some good progress slip away. The Victory Cup, European Nations and Med Cup are all confirmed for next year and the Kiwis are talking about an Anniversary tour in 2007 to the UK with Andrew Johns as the guest Aussie, as per Dally Messenger's role in 1907. Whilst I'm not really for or against this proposal yet, I am pleased to see people high up the food chain seriously considering some good initiatives.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/11/15/1068674442947.html

 

[***MH***]

did andrew johns take a shower this morning? it looked like he just woke up when he was on the tele.

 

[dimitri]

interesting idea

but i can't see how it would be of any value

how about just have the kiwis tour

then HAVE A WORLD CUP IN AUS AND NZ



hooray world cup

 

[***MH***]

WC in Aus + Nz would kick Ass

 

[Razor]

then HAVE A WORLD CUP IN AUS AND NZ

Why do they say that they won't get the crowds in Australia?

The 2002 Aus-GB test held in Sydney got a bigger crowd than any of the 5 matches played in England since 1995.

Although the 1999 Aus-GB match in Brisbane was smaller than any of the British figures.

The 1995 & 2000 World Cup matches against England all got bigger crowds than the Sydney match, but who's to say it won't be the same in Australia. If standard test matches get bigger crowds in Sydney, then so should WC matches.

 

[yakstorm]

Ahh they should repeat all 35 tour games the Kiwis

Test Matches:
New Zealand 6 lost to Great Britain 14
New Zealand 18 d. Great Britain 6
New Zealand 8 d. Great Britain 5

Internationals:
New Zealand 8 lost to Wales 9
New Zealand 16 lost to England 17

Representative sides:
New Zealand 23 d. Yorkshire 4
New Zealand 9 lost to Cumberland 21
New Zealand 4 lost to Lancashire 20

Other Matches:
New Zealand 25 d. Bramley 6
New Zealand 19 d. Huddersfield 8
New Zealand 26 d. Widnes 11
New Zealand 20 d. Broughton Rovers 14
New Zealand 5 drew Wakefield-Trinity 5
New Zealand 8 d. Leeds 2
New Zealand 24 d. St Helens 5
New Zealand 27 d. Merthyr Tydfil 9
New Zealand 9 d. Keighley 7
New Zealand 8 lost to Wigan 12
New Zealand 3 lost to Barrow 6
New Zealand 18 d. Hull 13
New Zealand 9 lost to Leigh 15
New Zealand 7 lost to Oldham 8
New Zealand 0 lost to Runcorn 9
New Zealand 18 d. Dewsbury/Batley Combined 8
New Zealand 11 d. Swinton 2
New Zealand 19 d. Rochdale 0
New Zealand 2 lost to Bradford 7
New Zealand 4 lost to Halifax 9
New Zealand 7 lost to Warrington 9
New Zealand 11 drew Hunslet 11
New Zealand 9 d. Salford
New Zealand 6 d. Hull KR 3
New Zealand 3 lost to York 5
New Zealand 3 d. Ebbw Vale 2
New Zealand 21 d. St Helens 10

 

[Big Bunny]

They also played against NSW though, or at least a development team. Johns lining up against the Blues after the season, that's a sure-fire sellout crowd.

 

[Jeffles]

I like the All Golds idea. But I see clashes with a possible World Cup that year. The schedule i too small for the both of them, unless the NRL cut back their year (fat chance). If I had to sacrifice something it'd be the All Golds. GO RLWC!!

 

[dimitri]

the second oldest world cup should take priotriy over some stupid all golds tour which was plucked out of the middle of nowhere

 

[ibeme]

Kiwis are talking about an Anniversary tour in 2007 to the UK with Andrew Johns as the guest Aussie, as per Dally Messenger's role in 1907

Will Andrew Johns still be playing in 2007? What happens to Stacey Jones? I don't know that that'd be welcomed by the half back being replaced.

 

[Razor]

Kiwis are talking about an Anniversary tour in 2007 to the UK with Andrew Johns as the guest Aussie, as per Dally Messenger's role in 1907

Will Andrew Johns still be playing in 2007? What happens to Stacey Jones? I don't know that that'd be welcomed by the half back being replaced.

The report said "they'll pick up a star Australian player, for instance Andrew Johns and take him on tour"

They just used Johns as an example. Not that he'll be the one going.

 

[Stevo_G]

they should do something over than this all golds tour
maybe have a full european cup and a full pacific cup including aus and nz

then in 2008 a world cup i australia, nz & png

 

[dimitri]

yep all golds may sound ok in principle

but really its a silly idea

give me a world cup any day

 

[Nook]

I think the All Golds idea is fantastic, provided it doesn't prevent a World Cup.
It has to be Johns though. The symbolism of Joey being chosen as the heir to Messenger at the twighlight of his career would not only be a fantastic honour for Johns, but also a promoter's dream. It wouldn't have to be a protracted tour - even a one-off game in the UK would be a great event, without placing unneccesary strain on fitting Joey into a team for an entire, important series.
As a one-off it would be a cracker.

 

[JJ]

It is a great idea.

Doesn't have to be Joey though, and doesn't have to be a symbolic Messenger as such.

For mine, the Kiwis could do with a fullback or standoff - Jones and Joey could play together I guess given that Jones' running game is his strength.

Lockyer would be the other obvious candidite, or a retired Brad Fittler